Attack

Milfoil

Recently there was a very benign incident involving a group of people (I don't want to go into name or place details for reasons of privacy but suffice to say that it has nothing to do with anyone on AT). The group event did not start out smoothly but eventually ran well and everyone seemed to enjoy the day. As both a participant and one of the speakers, I was privy to what happened between the organisers and took that to be an indication that I was simply being shown a deeper understanding of the undercurrents already in place within this particular group structure.

A day or so after the event, several people were uneasy, they were reporting feeling depleted, sad and even I had experienced an odd occurance while doing a journey. Since then, things have been very quiet, flat almost and I wonder, could it be possible that the organisers were putting out some vampirish energy?

Have you every come across a situation where highly specific defence or boundaries were needed, over and above the the usual? I'm not talking about those people who just suck the life out of you but a very specific magical working which would sap all those it was sent against? If so, what did you do?

This group are very varied in their beliefs so there is no one way to understand the beliefs since they vary so much from person to person.

There is something going on and I am struggling to get to the bottom of it so any help would be most welcome.
 

Eco74

To be a little boring and crass - feelings of disappointment for something not filling the expectations can manifest as feeling tired, drained or sapped.

Even if the event did run smoothly in the end, there may well be some feelings of disappointment or questions about what caused the problems.
Sometimes solving the problems simply isn't enough, since people who get affected by the events may also feel the need for some explanation for what went wrong, why and how.

Barring that, is there any chance you could arrange a smaller event in the style of a simple group gathering for blessings/light or whatever fits the group best?
That way, it could be a low-key positive injection of new energy and could also work as protection if there indeed is something out there draining energy from you.

Like they say with voodoo - it only works if you believe.
Or with energy vampires near you - they can only drain your energy as long as you let them.

Whenever I'm feeling drained (for whatever reason) I go into my little bubble.
A short meditation before I go to sleep, some quiet time, a walk in nature where I can feel the earth and breathe in the scents. Anything really to 're-collect' myself and zero out the outside influences for a while.

And I was thinking, if it's effecting several people in the group - maybe you could make it a group thing for those who want to.
Even sharing a meditation with people at a distance could make it more powerful.
 

Milfoil

Yes, I had thought along those lines too which is why, several months later, this is only coming up now as a possibility since usually those feelings of flat, drained and empty after an event which should leave you energised have long since dissipated.

There was, as I say, an odd occurance while I was journeying shortly after the event which makes me think that someone was creeping about, looking where they shouldn't and perhaps more.
 

linnie

A day or so after the event, several people were uneasy, they were reporting feeling depleted, sad and even I had experienced an odd occurance while doing a journey. Since then, things have been very quiet, flat almost....

Hello Millie. I have had a similar thing happen, just the once in the multiple person thing... It was interesting, because I knew that the woman doing the sap-sucking had attempted to probe more deeply into my being than she'd been invited to...

It happened at the first ever Spiritual Wellbeing festival I'd attended, about 12 years ago, but i remember the energy all too well. We only crossed paths in close physical proximity the once, in an 'arch of positivity' type thing, where all participants walking between two rows of people forming an arch were hugged or offered words of encouragement or uplift... It was just a feel-good, circle-closing exercise, as most were leaving that day, with but a handful of us staying on for an additional workshop.

Anyway, during my walk through the arched line, this woman made a bee line straight for my third eye, locking onto mine with her own, and I swear I felt most brutally invaded... (physically, spiritually, emotionally... every which way!)

The most distressing thing about this was what I'd witnessed the only other time that I had laid eyes on her, just the night previous ... I was heading back to my dorm after a Life-changing sweatlodge, but had detoured via the main hall as I'd promised a new acquaintance that I'd catch up with her there.

What a change from the sacred space I had just been in... I quietly entered the hall, to witness this woman doing a kundalini rising dance, and almost all the people in the hall not simply applauding, but becoming really quite fixated on her, and then chanting her name out loud as though she were a Pharoah or a rock superstar... I felt my energy shrink... I'd been infused with an amazing energy in the sweatlodge... partly due to the gift it offered me, and partly due to the physical/spiritual cleansing I'd been through... so I initially thought that my body slumping quietly to the ground was only a side-effect of the heat and etc, but I felt very nauseous, almost paralysed and, more importantly, nauseated, watching people 'lose' themselves to this woman. That is precisely what it felt like... as though each person was throwing his/her Self away through adoration to her.

I'm not sure if the third eye thing would have happened during the arch walk had I not already had the emotional etc response that I'd had the previous night... Perhaps she felt my vibe the previosu night and wanted to understand why I hadn't succumbed to her charms... I felt her energy to be repugnant... truly quite vile... and when she did the third eye thing... whooooooohhh... Horrible... truly intrusive.

After having been on a high all weekend (remembering that this was my first ever full immersion into 4 days of Spiritfest :)), I felt grotty, with a heavy energy...

It was interesting that the next day, when only the handful of people who had stayed on for the Pranic Healing workshop, were left, I was introduced to the very technique that helped me clear the putrid energy left by my brush with that woman. As it happened, in that small group of stayers, there were others who had felt the same un-ease whilst watching her dance/watching her audience behave as it did. None had had the same incident re the third eye vampiring, but they felt things were definitely not right with the audience response...

Whilst doing introductory Pranic healing/claering exercises, we were shown that the aura is not simply the clearly defined egg-shape, but that there are numerous Health Rays radiating out all around the circumference of the aura, much like the spokes/rays you see raditaing out from the sun. Our intsructor had us first scan our partner's aura, and then do an overall 'brush down' or sweeping of the aura, sweeping away the debris and using whichever technique feels authentic to deal with the residual energy. (I visualise a small cauldron into which I carefully place the swept and collected dirtied energy, letting a fire of pale green-white Light clear it away. My teacher used a physical bowl of salt water... ).

Having rescanned and checked that the dirgy energy had been cleared, we then 'teased out' drooping Health Rays... Usually, these rays stand essentially upright, or, to be more precise, when you follow the line of the aura's circumference around the body, they radiate out at the same type of angle as above-mentioned Sun's rays... (sort of perpendicular to the particular arc of the aura that they happen to emerge from). In depressive states, or where the aura has been attacked, these rays droop, so gently teasing them back up to their orignal position returns the person to greater balance and wellbeing. It is to be done gently, as too rough a treatment, or manipulating them too 'upward', can cause some chaos and muddle... So, gently tease the Health Rays back to their regular position.

When that is done to your satisfaction (ie, a quick scan 'feels' right), visualise your aura/the aura of the person you are assisting, as a complete and closed unit again. We were given a sky-cobalt blue egg shape as an ideal... Visualise the egg outline as complete... If there are any holes or thin patches, energetically build them up by using your energy-hands to follow your vision and fill in the reduced/weaker areas. Once the aura feels healthy and complete, use your energy hands to create a 'seal' which strengthens the aura.

This is a remedial exercise... I know some people shun 'bubbles' etc, but this is a very gentle exercise which can be readily done for oneself, or for a friend in need, which simply supports the aura, as the aura is the first line of defense, yes? (They say dis-ease manifests first in the etheric layers until, if left unattended, it manifests in the physical...) On that occasion, it was wonderful how ease-fully I felt cleansed after that yucky episode with the kundalini 'goddess'.

Generally, I don't rely on such measures as protection, in terms of fortifying my aura etc... I prefer to simply fill up the auric space with love and joy, and all things good, and I feel perfectly safe in there :):):). If you do feel as though you have been impacted by someone's energetic dross, though, this is a lovely way to gently clear it... or just as a gentle pick me up... You can help others either face to face or remotely, using exactly the same procedure, but remotely (with recipient's permission, of course) :). So, in a nutshell, many of those who felt the ickiness of what had hapened with that woman were present the following day and we all shared the healing/clearing process. I honestly don't know if those who indulged in hero-worship behaviour actually felt any imbalance after the fact, but they were certainly running with her enrgy on the night in question, so maybe their energy was more in synch., or maybe they just weren't sensitive to her rottier energy.

Another very long Linnie post... Well...my intentions are worthy :) (((((((hug)))))))

I tried to post this just then, but had timed out and had to relogin and find this thread... just noticed your response, Millie, re sort of being watched, which makes me think this would be especially good to do... :) As Eco74 mentioned "with energy vampires near you - they can only drain your energy as long as you let them." ... If your aura is intact, whatever it is cannot come peeping without your permission :)
 

Milfoil

Thanks Linnie and there are definite similarities between what you related and what happened here. The people in question, well one in particular, seemed to be loved or loathed depending on who you spoke to. I had never met her before that day so had no preparation as to why there was such diverse reactions to her. Her husband was perfectly amiable and I would never have put the two together but perhaps I have a lot to learn here about appearances? He was definitely the more powerful of the two but she had the temper and the attitude. There was a grubby, grasping and elitist aspect to her but I couldn't read him much at all.

A day or so after, I journeyed for a completely unrelated reason to find a suspicious little fire covered imp. Not knowing what to do, eventually I was going to go over but a Spirit there stopped me and instead gave me a bowl of water to give to it. This told me a) that this was a gentle way of telling this messenger/spy to *@&$*R off back home carefully, don't take anything other than this blessing to your mistress and don't come again or you will be wearing this! And b) the identity of the sender because the bowl of water was a clue there too.

Since then there has been a decided stale, blank, nothingness which may be connected to this incident. Sometimes doing something makes things worse so before I go charging in to do something, I wanted to do a bit of research first because it's not just me who has felt this/is affected.

Guides seem remote and distant which I also feel is related so I wonder about getting round this quietly and firmly without causing any fuss. There are people who have no qualms about taking what is not theirs and this could be a case of exactly that.
 

ThunderWolf

Here's a spell I've used successfully when needing to deflect something being sent my way. You can easily specify that whatever negativity is being sent be returned to the original sender without specifying who you're returning it to or even needing to know to whom you are sending it.


ETA: I'm sorry about having included a link to my site. You should be able to find the page by doing a websearch for ThunderWolf's Pagan Realm. Then clicking on the Grimoire button and then on the Defense button.
 

Milfoil

Thank you Thunderwolf, I really appreciate your link and concern. I read the ritual and it was very interesting, I've done something similar in the past with black and white. I really do appreciate the gesture and the information.

Yes there are lots of ways to deflect, and return unwanted energy but this feels very odd so hence the homework beforehand.
 

linnie

Thanks Linnie and there are definite similarities between what you related and what happened here. The people in question, well one in particular, seemed to be loved or loathed depending on who you spoke to. I had never met her before that day so had no preparation as to why there was such diverse reactions to her. Her husband was perfectly amiable and I would never have put the two together but perhaps I have a lot to learn here about appearances? He was definitely the more powerful of the two but she had the temper and the attitude. There was a grubby, grasping and elitist aspect to her but I couldn't read him much at all.

A day or so after, I journeyed for a completely unrelated reason to find a suspicious little fire covered imp. Not knowing what to do, eventually I was going to go over but a Spirit there stopped me and instead gave me a bowl of water to give to it. This told me a) that this was a gentle way of telling this messenger/spy to *@&$*R off back home carefully, don't take anything other than this blessing to your mistress and don't come again or you will be wearing this! And b) the identity of the sender because the bowl of water was a clue there too.

Since then there has been a decided stale, blank, nothingness which may be connected to this incident. Sometimes doing something makes things worse so before I go charging in to do something, I wanted to do a bit of research first because it's not just me who has felt this/is affected.

Guides seem remote and distant which I also feel is related so I wonder about getting round this quietly and firmly without causing any fuss. There are people who have no qualms about taking what is not theirs and this could be a case of exactly that.

I understand about not charging in unknowingly, Millie. Wise to have some apreciation of what is happening energetically. That's why I enjoy that gentle cleansing practise; because it simply clears what is unwanted and fortifies connection with higher energies.

Perhaps sending loving energy with a blessing that they may source their own energy, through higher means rather than through parasitism, will confound them, albeit lovingly :)

I trust you will gain more clarity on this issue before much longer, and are guided as to how to best deal with what is happening.

Many Blessings to you (((hug)))
 

Milfoil

So far I am working through this and what is coming up is that far from this being a nasty attack by anyone it is more about my own concerns regarding certain things. I'm really glad that before doing anything, time was given to talking with different people, journey work, thinking clearly and seeing different perspectives.

A big lesson was learned about belief too, its breadth, limits and impact upon the individual as well as a group. The ramifications of belief in it's interconnectedness with others and how taking a step back once in a while is beneficial.

Thank you everyone who replied. Everything is much clearer today. :)
 

linnie

So far I am working through this and what is coming up is that far from this being a nasty attack by anyone it is more about my own concerns regarding certain things. I'm really glad that before doing anything, time was given to talking with different people, journey work, thinking clearly and seeing different perspectives.

A big lesson was learned about belief too, its breadth, limits and impact upon the individual as well as a group. The ramifications of belief in it's interconnectedness with others and how taking a step back once in a while is beneficial.

Thank you everyone who replied. Everything is much clearer today. :)

Delighted that you are feeling more clear on this matter, Millie. :)

Interesting what you say regarding that experience. Thank you for sharing. In truth, I know that I gave the situation that I described much thought and then much space, but still, after many months, and even years, now, having all but forgotten the occasion, I do recall that what happened to me 'felt' very much an intrusion. To this day I have no idea what that woman's intention was, but it certainly felt intrusive... I am not clear about what it all meant, but it doesn't really matter anyway :) I honestly would have believed that I had long since let it go, but for the fact that as soon as I read your initial post in this thread, my response was to recall that occasion, as it felt so familiar... so....... :):):)) Perhaps not fully cleared or understood, but, yes, I feel no great desire to understand it now... the moment has passed, and may she be well and content wherever Life has taken her :)

Many blessings to you :heart: