Neo-pythagorism and Tarot : Alain Bougearel's theory

jmd

I'm not sure why, but cannot seem to be able to access either LeJournalDeDemain nor the Google.fr search string...

Oh well, will have to try another time(s).
 

Namadev

Namadev said:
I find interesting that the motif evocated for the
interdiction of the Academia Pomponiania would have been George
Trezibond's manuscript written in 1464 (?)*Comparationes duorum
philosophorum*

"Peter of Calabria's Roman Academic Academy was criticized and
persecuted in 1458(?!) (more surely 1468)by Church authorities
because its opinions were perceived as neopagan.

The authorities drew on a work by George
Trebizond (Georgius Trapezuntius), Comparationes duorum
philosophorum, which was written earlier (in 1464 — perhaps written
by order"


George Trebizond, one of the notable Greek scholars who came to Italy
in the early fifteenth century, made a new translation of
the "Almagest" from the Greek for Pope Nicholas V between March and
December of 1451. Due to a dispute about the quality of Trebizond's
commentary on the text, the translation was never dedicated to
Nicholas. This very elaborate manuscript of the translation, with the
figures drawn in several colors, was dedicated to Pope Sixtus IV by
George's son Andreas (1481-1482)


During the same nine months that George Trebizond made his
translation of the "Almagest," he also wrote a commentary as long as
the original text. The commentary was severely criticized, however,
which resulted in a falling out with Pope Nicholas V. This opulent
manuscript was dedicated to Pope Sixtus IV by George's son Andreas
along with Vat. lat. 2055 of the translation.


Now, I am particulary interested by George Trebizond because of the
Pythagorean Arithmological disposition of the front page of his
Alamgest of Ptolemy .
http://www.officieldelavoyance.com/article.php3?id_article=736

The neo-pythagorean disposition of the 78 as shown in the Almagest of
Ptolemy :
http://www.dudleyobservatory.org/Logo/Ptolomey.jpg
[The title page of Ptolemy's 'Almagest', from the first edition, is
dated 1515 and is from Venice]

The initial suggestion given is :

the first line : 1 dot,
the second line : 2 dots

Anybodody aware of neo-pythagorean arithmology reads that the
following lines will be :

third line :3 dots
...

12th line : 12 dots

So:
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12=78

BTW, there are only 12 lines in the Triangle under the intial name :
Almagest...


[It has no sense to count the intial name Almagest...]

Data relatives the Almagest

The title page of Ptolemy's 'Almagest', from the first edition, is
dated 1515 and is from Venice

Image credit: Royal Astronomical Society

Quote in French of the paragraph on my essay realtive to G.
Trebizond :

"Un ultime indice est donné dans la présence du Triangle de base 12
sur la première page de L'Almagest de Ptolemée sur la version de
Venise de 1515 ; l'ouvrage avait été traduit par le Byzantin George
Trebizond entre mars et décembre 1451 d'abord à l'intention du Pape
Nicolas V, mais, différends entre les deux hommes portant sur la
qualité de la traduction : Le manuscrit très élaboré avec plusieurs
figures dessinées en couleurs sera finalement dédicacé au Pape Sixtus
IV par le fils de Goerge Trebizond, Andreas.




Regards



Alain Bougearel
 

Mayet

I found the 22 tumps a fascinating journey through numbers which as shown are the building blocks of the universe. The Mayet Manuscript that I have written shows the perfection of the hidden number systems within the major arcana. With the few changes made it sheds new light on the major arcana as a book of hidden knowledge. The possibilities are endless.I am not sure whether secret societies and others before me have had access to these changes which were worked out using clues that Crowley had left behind. but it definately shows the relationship between numbers, electromagnetic fields and the universe around us.

I started using the 1+2+3+4+5 for the major arcana to get 231 the total circle whichis interesting dividing it down by the whole numbers
and 132 for the zodiac circle leaving 99 for the planet circle all pairs add up to 22 all trios to 33. I don't know enough about pi to reflect to heavily on it but I do believe that decimal places are kinda wrong. The commentary, in its brief form on the manuscript has the correclations in their stunning simplicity.

http://www.rejectz.com/themayetmanuscript.doc
 

Namadev

The 22 sequence

French readers may appreciate the following article published a little time ago about the 22 allegorical subjects of the Trump sequence.

http://trionfi.com/0/a/01/02/F2-bottom.php

Bonne lecture


Alain Bougearel
 

Namadev

Summary in English

Namadev said:

Copy of my post on TarotL :

I do not write in English because it is too difficult for me to
debate in this langage.

I'll nevertheless make a try to summarize my article but I do hope
that my phrases won't be twisted in a wrong manner.

For the historical academic consensus there is no need to search for
a numerical coherence ipse facto.

Cards pre-date Tarot Trumps.

Trumps are not listed as 21+1=22 before some time : variations in
number of the Atouts.

If we accept the Petrarch 's hypothesis of the origin of Trionfi,
then their number pass progressively from 6 (Petrach's poem)to
21+1=22 (Atouts)....

So the mathematical inner coherence of the number of the Tarot cards
(78) is a non-sense from an academic historical point of view.

But, and I love these "but", mathematically, I insist on "
the indeed fascinating (neo-Pythagorean) relation of three
geometrical figures—triangle, square, and pentagon—on the base of
the number 4 (as expression of the four elements). They then produce
a coherent relation between the odd composition of the Tarot-deck of
4x10 (=40) pips, 4x4 (=16) royals, and 22 trumps, because 16 is a
square number of base 4, 10 is a triangular number of base 4, and,
likewise, 22 is a pentagonal number of base 4." (Laurent Faber)

Moakley noted " the astonishing fact that there is, indeed,
something related to both the 4x14 suit cards and the 21 trumps,
namely the much older game of dice, from which they might have
stemmed. If we take the total number of choices possible when
throwing three or two dice, it adds up to either 56 (= 4x14) or 21,
respectively. " (Laurent Faber)

Now, if we consider as 22nd or 'nulla' an invalid throw of dices,
then there are 22 throws.

Morever, such an invalid throw could be seen as outside of of the
geometrical perimeter of a game of tables such as described by the
King Alphonse X (He makes a difference between game of spirit such
as chess, games of chance such as dices - the games of tables being
midway ) or more simply if the dices do not fall correctly...




As for the discussion about the relation between the Trumps , it is
a 1+4+7+10=22 relation that the Arithmology points to.

This cuts the game at Pope and Death.

This not contradictory with the orders B and C.

Discussion is about the alpha (Bagat) and omega (Math) : I list in
the article some orders of the XVIth century adequate with such an
ordinal relation.

Last but not least : the Math cannot make a trick so it isn't a
Trump.

Not entirely true, because tte most ancient rules in French consider
that there are 22 Trumps (in which 3 Highs -Bagat, Monde et Math).

The Math can also make the last trick in a great schlem...


Alain