SolSionnach
Hello all,
Two nights ago I was thumbing through my Hadar, and was struck by the shield on the 4/Deniers. It's outlined with blue, with a gold field, a lighter yellow 4-propeller-looking thing, three red flowers (the upper 2 having 5 petals and little fork-like extensions towards the center, with the lower 6-petaled one centered at the bottom.. and then there are w three-petaled blue lilies - one closed, and the other exposing a red almond-shaped center. I thought wtf is that? and continued... until I came to the 2/Coupes, where I found the exact same shield!
It is in the bottom 1/3 of the card, which is blocked off from the part with the Coupes (and the dolphins, etc). This shield is exactly the same as the one on the 4/Deniers, except that the red flowers are now black. However, the shield is crowned with a red/green/blue crown, and on either side are 2 swoopy things which hold the red palm fronds and the blue leaved teeny flowers which are seen on either side of the crown on the Ace/Epees!
In the Jodo-Camoin there is a similarity with the 2/Coupes and the 4/Deniers - both show a phoenix rising from the ashes on an altar, with angels on either side in the 2/Coupes. However, there is no connection with the Ace/Epees.
My Svizzera 1804 has all three cards related by initials (JR) and trumpet-looking things on the Coupes and Deniers cards, and all three cards have similar vegetation as on the Ace/Epees.
It seems to me that there must be a reason for this, particularly in the reproductions. I don't have any other TdMs which are older, and I'm curious if the Noblet or the Dodal show anything similar, and what could be the meaning behind this duplication in symbolism.
Thanks for reading!
Two nights ago I was thumbing through my Hadar, and was struck by the shield on the 4/Deniers. It's outlined with blue, with a gold field, a lighter yellow 4-propeller-looking thing, three red flowers (the upper 2 having 5 petals and little fork-like extensions towards the center, with the lower 6-petaled one centered at the bottom.. and then there are w three-petaled blue lilies - one closed, and the other exposing a red almond-shaped center. I thought wtf is that? and continued... until I came to the 2/Coupes, where I found the exact same shield!
It is in the bottom 1/3 of the card, which is blocked off from the part with the Coupes (and the dolphins, etc). This shield is exactly the same as the one on the 4/Deniers, except that the red flowers are now black. However, the shield is crowned with a red/green/blue crown, and on either side are 2 swoopy things which hold the red palm fronds and the blue leaved teeny flowers which are seen on either side of the crown on the Ace/Epees!
In the Jodo-Camoin there is a similarity with the 2/Coupes and the 4/Deniers - both show a phoenix rising from the ashes on an altar, with angels on either side in the 2/Coupes. However, there is no connection with the Ace/Epees.
My Svizzera 1804 has all three cards related by initials (JR) and trumpet-looking things on the Coupes and Deniers cards, and all three cards have similar vegetation as on the Ace/Epees.
It seems to me that there must be a reason for this, particularly in the reproductions. I don't have any other TdMs which are older, and I'm curious if the Noblet or the Dodal show anything similar, and what could be the meaning behind this duplication in symbolism.
Thanks for reading!
