Hephasteus said:
Ya I'm not really talking about normal weather pattern events. And It's hard to find any framework that's agreed upon to even try to model the paramaters in it. Is the planet alive? If we are experiencing an animal existance why did mankind start off so "unfair". I mean our only advantage we have is water cooling which it's theorized we used to persistance hunt. IE tribes beginning in africa would hunt down an animal by continually running it while the rest of the tribe moved along behind them with the equipment. Humans would sweat while the air cooled animals would finally succumb to heat stroke or heat exhaustion. We have large brains but we have to have them because we don't have any natural weapons. We have to make sunblock but hippos make it naturally. We die when snakes bite us but horses can make anti snake venom automatically through their advanced immune system. Elephants and horses can both use plant life for self medicating. So it appears that we are somewhat inferior and have had to learn our place to a superior position.
Those traits are evolutionary requirements. Horses, hippos, etc, are wild and that is an adaptation that would occur over time. Humans have opposable thumbs, longer life spans and have advanced microbiologies. Consider even modern humans; those living in desert or tropical regions are naturally designed to withstand the sun without sunblock; and they learned to create coverings and shelters - the modern european is coming from places with more mild weather, I.E., an Irish lady with red hair cannot handle the sun but the climate her ancestors evolved in was naturally rainier and much cooler. The natives were biologically built for their environment; as the English were for theirs - and this is only on a span of a couple millenia. Humans used to be much shorter, if you look at structures designed by humans as recent as 600 years ago and as late as 3000 years ago. We were very well fit for our world but were builders and innovators, we still came from an ancient design that was built for natural wild living. As we evolved and developed culture and society, I imagine much of those throwbacks would no longer be necessary as they are for animals living in other conditions. Consider our appendix and tonsils - both of which have been discovered to support our immune system and resistance, but are being phased out, seemingly, by evolution (as is our body hair I suppose, LOL).
But if you've seen the hopi prophecies they seem to be coming true but in a bizarre way in the physical realm. And if you become intent and focused on understanding something the universe tries to fulfill that intent. Since I've posted this I've gotten several bizarre revelations about it but none satisfy.
From the prophecies at spiritual rock:
"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.
- White men coming, of course, muskets, rifles, pistols, etc
"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."
- Wagons with people as he says
"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."
Aye
"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."
Industrialization
"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."
Cities and the roads, I presume
"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."
I guess this may be modern day communications, visual effects, equipment, etc
"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."
OK, we have had a massive series of die offs from oxygen deprivation - as well as the losses by the BP oil spill and the dozens of others, etc
"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.
There are many youth rejoining the tribes to learn about and further their awareness of native culture and history.
"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.
Well, this could represent something like Mir or the ISS - space stations, one crashed into the Earth, the ISS looks like a white/blue star, so I can see this happening. HOWEVER - does it have to mean that the world is ending and being purged; or is it a mark of a time when the natives tribal history and oral storytelling ends forever? Is a time coming when even the reserves that still have ceremonies and history will lose their culture?
Which prophecies are you referring to though, I am definitely curious.
The north south stuff though has me puzzled. For instance go to youtube videos about the christchurch quake. You won't find what you expect to find people reaching out and trying to console or support. What you will find is some trolls, one saying they are turkish or something and that everybody in christchurch is going to die and deserves to die because of some war thing from a few generations ago. This is clearly a cursing attempt. An attempt to make people feel guilty and accept what may or may not be a random event as some sort of karmic retribution.
This happens EVERYWHERE. We lost over 40% of a city here, to a wildfire - and on the videos, every single video was a fight of trolls fighting with each other. This happens on every disaster video I've found, I wouldn't say it's a sign of anything - it is afterall human nature, we have mature and immature people. However, I don't think it means everyone is like that. Although most of the fighting on the videos was very inflammatory, all of those regions - including Christchurch received a LOT of actual support - and a great number of communities coming together to help them, and other regions recover.
Psychologically people are susceptible to cursing and blessing energies if they are sympathetic towards the person or people doing it. IE you have to recognize or accept their authority in that area to be cursed.
Look at the japan disaster. Facebook filled up with trolls shouting about how much they deserved it for world war II and pearl harbor.
Yes I agree, but I do feel that although you have 50,000 people who may be "blessing" them with support and resources, and 50,000 who may be "cursing" them, it doesn't necessarily mean we are being poisoned; in a study I did for NGOs - the quantity of financial support - both corporate and personal coming from the industrialized worlds this year was higher than ANY year previously - and there was a 76% increase in charitable and humanitarian activities in my city alone.
Now everybody can have their opinion and own reality concerning what is going on in the world right now. My specific opinion is that people are being sickened and weakened on a massive scale as I just can't see anyway for radiation sickness and starvation to NOT effect most of the population. You can't really argue that world is not clearly delineated in north south east and west. And if you've studied geology you can't deny that we've had rather periodic changes in north and south pole and that not much of "history" makes it through those changes besides magnetic alignment telling us of the changes in magnetic rocks. And it's even harder to deny that we are undergoing a shift in polar precession alignments. It's been discovered that just the chile quake alone has caused a 4 inch shift in poles. Just the japan quake alone has caused a pole shift of 6 inches. Just the haiti quake alone has caused a pole shift of I forget how many inches.
Right, actually, it moved the WHOLE crust - the entire surface of the Earth was affected as was the rotational strength of the poles. I agree, and am aware of the severe and massive polar shifts - of which we are quite possibly undergoing one now. If you look at pole tracking charts, the poles are now moving at over 82 KM/year (from under 1 KM approximately 105 years ago) and the field strength has dipped 10%.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v416/n6881/full/416620a.html
For up to date information on the field strength, there's an annual publication released, but I am not sure where it is.
Now I've studied haarp and I've studied tesla and there appears to be a scientific endeavor to combine weather manipulation with earthquake technology. Like I wasn't wanting to pay any attention to the world and I isolated myself entirely for months. I suddenly got snapped back into paying attention and what happened was people got this idea to buy silver to crash the economic system and destroy the oligarchies running the planet.
Can I see a chart or index that refers to silver crashing the system? This is a thought I am unfamiliar with.
They were already well underway with it and as silver rose up in price the board I was communicating on started getting massively attacked by cia type trolls and I was getting a huge amount of desperation and panic from them. Then I discover that they use silver iodide to do the cloud seeding to make the rain and that they attempt to flood areas and make areas dump the water to cause droughts in other areas. Once the soil is liquified from the weather modification it allows haarp to set up reflective heating along the fault lines to penetrate into the fault line and "lubricate it" then it's hit with a 2.5 hertz signal to set off an earthquake.
Now there's a predictive card system that has the actions reactions "game" that is being played. The gulf accident is the oil spill card and it's a food destruction event. But what I thought was odd was it set off a huge "animal rage" with several jellyfish stingings and whales attacking boats. Now a psychopathic person will attack animals because it's not "against the law" or there's not much change of karmic retribution though animal rights groups are making that harder and harder.
Well people have been hunting these things for years; when/where were these abnormal events??
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/05/illuminati-card-game-bp-oil-spill.html
Now the japan earthquake is also in this card game under combined disaster.
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/03/japan-earthquake-illuminati-card-game.html
Now I mentioned in another post the predictions of No Eyes where she states a blow of the New Madrid fault line. It was attacked with these specialized equipment for several weeks. First the flooding of the missippi river and area surrounding it. That flooding in response to the haarp signals It was subjected to a relentless hammering but didn't blow. The silver people are making the cloud seeding more expensive but they are still able to set up these huge floods and you can't call it natural because i've discovered silver iodide manufacturing is currently running about 500 million a year globally. That's a LOT OF RAIN and a LOT OF silver. How many of you ever remember sink holes being a big phenonenon? I mean it has occurred but there have been HUGE numbers of sinkholes forming and there's a solid evidence footprint that the haarp activity focused on that area is cause of it. I can't find the news source for it but one of the areas recently flooded is still closed to residents because there a couple monsterous sinkholes in the street. Not really monsterous but big. The haarp activity that sets off the earthquakes also breaks up underground caverns and causes sinkholes.
My question in this event would be; presuming the ionosphere is capable of affecting deep surface fault lines, why would Japan - an important and major export of technology and electronics, or nations like NZ, Chile or Haita be targeted? What is the incentive or reasoning to disrupt aligned countries that we have large partnerships and investments with?
Now this is all under the card Population Reduction.
http://thecomingepiphany.com/BookArticles/Cardgame.html
Now I'm pretty good at discerning intent. Not perfect or anything but fairly good at it. So to bring this back on topic to psychic predictions it seems fairly clear to me that the intent behind the hopi's is genuine and love and easily classified as white magic or blessing or under astrology 5th house and encouraging. But I always try to find oppositional axis. Like in astrology everything is a continuum, 2nd house your resources is opposite 8th house other peoples resources. Now using these opposing forces you can lay down sort of mathematical analysis of things and describe them as limits.
I believe the hopi predictions were genuine, though I have my above suggestion that, like the Mayan calendar - it is an ending of a cycle, or referencing a particular culture.
As loyalty between and among a group goes to infinity it's ability to be fair and just with those outside the group goes to zero.
As creativity among a group goes to infinity the creativity of those outside the group goes to zero. The resultant environment becomes one that is created to suit the most creative group.
I'm not sure I follow what you mean here. I.E., I run a number of organizations and though we have strong inter-organizational loyalty and strength, we are dependent upon the teamwork and friendship with other groups. How does this apply to society?
As wholeness and inclusiveness goes to infinity you simply force opposing forces against each other force them into inferior positions. IE as wholeness goes to infinity dominance goes to infinity and equality goes to zero. There's constant polarizing and grain boundry structuring ie grouping forces.
As authority goes to infinity responsibility goes to zero. Authority doesn't respond or take responsiblity. It simply tries to push it off on anyone who will carry the weight.
I would actually say that due to the recession, the economic crash and the recent disasters; ALL of the irresponsible politicians, leaders, etc, have been effectively forced out. The overseas climate is also bringing a bit of a shut down to old and outdated systems. If anything, I'd say irresponsible people who also held a great deal of power and dominance have suddenly lost their power. even the United States is at the mercy of the world now; and its own people. if anything, global power has shifted and evened out, no one force that was superior can claim that title anymore - even in situations like the EU, there is so much variety and opposition counterbalancing the nations that recovered, that although you still have abuse of power, and positions of dominant strength causing issues (I.E., France's rejection of Italy's migrants, the IMF chief's activities), there is substantial evidence that those systems are being modified to something more equal. Even in Canada, where the government has been forced to make substantial changes/
Now steering this back on topic again. Considering the background forces of what is occuring. I've been doing this since the economic crash in 2008 with first an astrology group and then an economic group but I've always kept an eye on a computer group. There was a huge amount of people looking for guidance in the astrology group at the beginning. Everyone had good intentions but that's not to say that good information or enough information flowed. That astrology group has just kind of gone a bit wacky. Many of the people who started in it got banned or quit due to dissatisfaction and the moderators try to keep it very superficial and somewhat glib and sociopathic. IE no filet mignon eat your dog food.
The economic group is very sharp and able to penetrate to underlying root causes very quickly and easily. They somewhat tolerate my dives into the weirdo spiritual world and though I've never had any interest in money or economics or politics I've learned a huge amount about them. Now the computer group I keep an eye on is being ego pumped. IE they are being fed massive amounts of energy and focused like a laser on entertainment but some people in that group are awake and paying attention to what's going on so it's really bizarre.
So that didn't really steer back on topic very well but my original opinions of psychic phenomenon still seem very relevant to me. If people are focusing on the small picture they can do alright but if you try to focus on the big picture you will run up against a massive obfuscation machine. If the present goal of massive depopulation is true and people will return to spirit in a highly weakened state due to hangover from being in a sick or starving body and what's that about? If big prophecies or long time line prophecies are not able to discern intent or judge clearly or express themselves in a way easily identified with the physical realm then how can you trust small psychic things even on short timelines. And are you just being a useful idiot in the process? Or perhaps simply providing comfort for people who don't want to wake up or find answers on their own or take any responsibility. Or if you are the recipient of the psychic reading and the giver is oblivious to all intentions involved it does seem that "trust" is necessary. But that sets up sympathy and exposes you to malevolent as well as beneficial cursing energy. IE how do you know a malevolent intent isn't hiding behind a beneficial intent. The reader is only privy to circumstances at the reading and has no control other than what they are able to discern about the actual event.
I, and others have been doing very powerful readings with the highest intent and I've found that when people are open and listening, the greatest change occurs. Friends of mine who obsessed looking for a hole in the story were met with malevolent intentions but can still recognize when things went wonky.
Now, by no means does that mean every method is clean. I know people who used, perhaps improperly, other divination techniques that caused significant chaos - but there was a common theme. the true messages appealed to love nad reason while the malevolent messages appealed to self-ego. Where it comes from, I cannot say.
BTW the goal of the illuminati card game is to control 8 out of 15 groups or achieve a working majority that can impress it's will upon a losing minority. And there are violent groups playing with non-violent groups but once a group goes violent it remains violent because it becomes the best solution to how they solve their problems.
Sorry if this seems rambling or schizophrenic these are very complex issues and peoples backgrounds are very different so it's hard to put all the information in to make it make sense.
Like the conflict with the Salafist radicals vs the peace-keeping fundamentalists.
"I think if we live in the moment, and trust both our instincts and our guidance; we can generally expect the most likely possibility at that time to be more probable - where if we take the messages we receive, overthink, live on them, challenge them, etc, we can definitely cause changes to the "timeline"."
Therein lies the problem with co-creation. Look at your 3 readings. You managed expectations on 2 of them and did nothing on the 3rd one. If the universe knows that person wasn't going to fit well in that environment how did you affect their ability to achieve fulfillment. If you live in the moment then you surrender to a planning authority and that turns into expectations management and a constant barrage of inadequacies. Central planning economics always fails and always becomes extremely deceptive. The BLS says unemployment is 9 percent. It's a lie. Intel projects 11 plus billion in sales last quarter and falsified over 3 billion in sales. While your blissfully doing readings on job opportunities law firms are hiring massive amounts of people and instantly laying them off to make up 'numbers'. College education debt has exceeded credit card debt. People are owing a house before they graduate and not even getting the house. Our economic systems are fraudulant. Government is highly brutal when it can no longer continue on a fraudulant path it has ways of starting wars or killing people off heartlessly liquidating them as unfunded liabilities. We are out of oil. The last good reserves of light sweet crude exist in libya and they are being attacked to have them stolen. Global rebellions are going on all over the world but libya's people are not rebelling they have the highest standard of living in africa but yet "rebel's" set up a central bank seized control of the oil fields and got france to recognize them as the "government" over libya then a few days later ghaddafi blew up the entire oil storage facility. We have tons of terrible oil. Heavy and sour and hard to get out of the ground but light sweet is what makes gasoline and diesel and the world go. If your cards aren't telling people to start farming and learning how to sew clothes then they aren't really helping people.
Our financial systems are severely lacking, and so as I above noted, there have been substantial and significant changeovers in leadership, policy and government.
How is there no oil? Between the other OPEC nations, Canada, and new reserves identified in other regions, Libya only contributed to less than 0.5% of the export of total world oil - and more importantly, the economic impact of rising prices was caused by speculation and artificial market stimulation at the stock level versus an actual shortage. While the U.S. reserves shrunk, overall production has increased - and consumption decreased slightly.
I am providing insight for people on emotional natures; the examples I provided were for general predictive means. There is a lot more that goes on for people regarding self-help, development, and understanding the process their lives are going through. I was, with curly, comparing the nature of predictive readings based on our own emotional and personal intent.
I'm supposed to trust and live in the moment and I did it. Didn't work out. Went back to my old method of digging as far back into history as possible, digging as deeply into the present as possible and trying to project where it's going. "The Moment" is simply going to get you created not allow access to true co-creation.
Do a reading on this guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlQrYCacrKo&feature=related
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I by any means can't live in the moment due to my own emotional and psychological nature, but i have found that trusting in a process and understanding that things happen in this moment for a reason can be enlightening.
At any rate - I am not attacking you, so I apologize if it seems so, I am just debating based on other ideas and trying to understand your process and methodology more.
