Spiritual Protection

newlillith

What are you protecting yourself against or from?

Any thing or any energy that could be harmful.

Why do you fear these things and need to be protected?

I spent all day thinking about this yesterday. Yes, quite a bit of my fear is based on superstition and horror movies (whenever I can't avoid them). But another bit is based on my total ignorance of spiritual matters. When I meditate or do tarot readings, I literally have no idea what I'm opening myself up to. So to me, doing spiritual work without asking for protection is like going skydiving without taking the class first. How do I know what to expect? When would I know to open the parachute? I'm the kind of person who likes to know what to expect, so spiritual work is hard for me in the first place because I really don't know what to expect...I hope that makes sense (also, I spent all day yesterday thinking up that metaphor...pretty good methinks :p).

How many times have YOU actually been hurt by the things you need psychic protection from?

Never. I guess my fear is that if something were to happen I would have no idea how to fix it.

Cleansing and protection seem to be quite different to me though they are being lumped together. It could be interesting and informative to consider the differences.

Facing my fears (and I'm not there yet or even suggesting that I am), sorting out addictions and examining/working through personal hangups have been the best forms of protection I know.

I completely agree Milfoil. And I would take it a step further and say that doing those things requires some base of knowledge we can go back to. I don't know about you, but when I think about the HOWS and WHYS of my fears and addictions I use a combination of Freudian theory and newer psychological theories. But in my spiritual work I have a limited knowledge-base to refer to. I'm not Tabula Rasa by any means, but my childhood wasn't almost completely spiritually/religiously bereft. Protection is necessary for me to feel the least bit safe exploring these areas.

BUT this is also why I love AT. I never would have even thought of the concept of NOT using protection. So thank you for that Milfoil : )

I am also reading the Christopher Penczak book recommended on another thread: Mystic Foundations. And it's GOOD. I came across just a little blip on protection last night that resonated with me. After a lengthy discussion on positive and negative energies he suggested that instead of asking we be protected from all negative energies while meditating, we ask to be protected from any energy that wishes us harm. There's a lot more behind that, which I haven't had enough coffee to explain right now but it makes sense to me and I'm changing that bit of my protection prayer.

And another note on using anxieties for white light, which HOLMES brings up here and elsewhere, I have done this and it helps. There are times in my life when I have been extremely anxious and visualized myself in a white light bubble. At the moment I am not able to dissect why I feel that, but later I can. This helps me get through an anxiety provoking moment.

Celticnoodle, I ask for white light the same way you do. Thanks all for sharing!
 

celticnoodle

In regards to seeing and using the white light as protection, I am in full agreement that this is a good practice. I know of many psychic mediums who practice some form of protection before doing any reading. Many well known mediums especially use this. I don't think that anyone should take this lightly. Yes, it is a personal choice, but if you choose not to use some sort of protection before doing medium work, then I, personally feel you are taking a chance.

I am a psychic medium, and in addition to using white light and prayer as a form of protection, I also set some ground rules. I refuse to bring forth any spirit who has committed murder or has committed suicide or committed any other major form of abuse. I refuse to bring forth any spirit who was a serious drug abuser.

While I cannot be 100% sure that any spirit I do bring forth has not been guilty of any of those above offenses, it is a form of protection for myself I take very seriously. I did once have a client lie to me about the spirit she wanted me to make contact with, and suffered very serious side effects from it as a result. I was asked to bring through her loved one, who unbeknownst to me, was a serious drug abuser and ended up killing himself due to an overdose he took.

When I do readings, often times I 'step' into the body of the spirit I make contact with. I did so with that spirit above, and immediately knew there was something wrong. Luckily for me, I had prayed to my guides for help and protection, as well as grounded myself and protected myself in white light. I also generally and did so here, ask for protection from Archangel Michael. I believe those prayers and protection helped me to realize immediately that this was a dangerous subject and to immediately step out and stop the reading. The client did confirm that yes, this family member was indeed a drug abuser and killed himself by taking an overdose of illegal drugs, but that she didn't expect it would really be a problem for me. It was. It took a few hours for me to feel 'right' again. I was light headed and dizzy--like I had suffered from an overdose of drugs and I couldn't function properly for a few hours as this effect stayed with me.

I will NEVER attempt to do a reading w/o some sort of protection, prayer and plea to my angels and guides for guidance and protection. To me, it is like a doctor who is about to give an exam and for most cases, they PROTECT themselves, by wearing gloves, an eye and/or mouth/nose shield--depending on the type of exam they are giving. They also ALWAYS wash their hands upon entering the room where their patient is, and again before they leave said room when the appointment is over. this is not just because they have a phobia of germs. Its because they know it is a form of protection for them and they are going to take every precaution to keeping themselves protected from harm.

while it is up to the person doing any form of mediumship readings to protect themselves or not, I personally feel it is in your best interest to do so. I don't take chances and I urge people to not take chances. But, the choice is always yours.
 

Cat*

I am a psychic medium, and in addition to using white light and prayer as a form of protection, I also set some ground rules. I refuse to bring forth any spirit who has committed murder or has committed suicide or committed any other major form of abuse. I refuse to bring forth any spirit who was a serious drug abuser.
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When I do readings, often times I 'step' into the body of the spirit I make contact with. I did so with that spirit above, and immediately knew there was something wrong. Luckily for me, I had prayed to my guides for help and protection, as well as grounded myself and protected myself in white light. I also generally and did so here, ask for protection from Archangel Michael. I believe those prayers and protection helped me to realize immediately that this was a dangerous subject and to immediately step out and stop the reading. The client did confirm that yes, this family member was indeed a drug abuser and killed himself by taking an overdose of illegal drugs, but that she didn't expect it would really be a problem for me. It was. It took a few hours for me to feel 'right' again. I was light headed and dizzy--like I had suffered from an overdose of drugs and I couldn't function properly for a few hours as this effect stayed with me.
I would imagine that people whose close ones have committed suicide or murder or who abused people or who were heavy drug users (no matter if illegal or not) may often have a particular need to get in touch with them after their deaths to sort stuff out. Which is why your refusal to contact these dead seems rather cruel to me.

In my worldview, the risk to experience unpleasant things and the resulting risk to need more time to get back to functioning "normally" than is convenient is simply part of a medium's job. If one isn't ready to go there (and of course not everyone is, for a whole lot of very good reasons!), I believe that one has no business doing medium work at all. Sorry if that feels harsh to you, but it is what I believe. To me, it's like a doctor who says she will treat your broken finger but won't treat you for an infectuous disease because (even with protection) there is some risk that she may catch it as well. Or a tarot reader who will only read on "lighthearted" subjects but sends away people who really NEED a reading because they are in a serious crisis.

That doesn't mean there is no reason to protect oneself while doing such work. I for one believe that protection for spiritual work is a good idea, as long as you actually know what you're protecting yourself against and what method to use and why - which is why I also believe that Milfoil has asked some really good questions in this thread.
 

Cat*

P.S. I don't believe in the white light kind of protection, though, but will say more about that in the other thread. But protection as such? Seems to make sense to me.

And to answer Milfoil's questions myself:

What are you protecting yourself against or from?
It makes sense to me to protect myself against harmful influences, from spirits or from other humans (because I don't believe they are all well-meaning and on our side), including unintentional ones. I would want to protect myself against the risk to "take over" harmful "energies" (sorry, no better word) from others, but I'm not sure whether this is best done by creating an energy shield/filter, or by taking on the "hollow bone" role, or by working on my own issues so I don't identify with stuff that isn't mine - or all of them!

That doesn't mean I've been particularly good at actually doing this, but I have indeed at least once been provided with "protective equipment" by my animal guides for a journey into dangerous and potentially harmful territory (in that case, the potentially harmful energy was unintentional and undirected, but "around"). I also should say that I don't do shamanic-type work for my own clients, and I'm not journeying at all at the moment, so much of this is theory for me for now.

I've never found it necessary to protect myself for doing a tarot reading, though.

Why do you fear these things and need to be protected?
Well, because I think they might harm me (and I mean "harm," no just "inconvenience") in a way that I can prevent (while still being able to do the work).

How many times have YOU actually been hurt by the things you need psychic protection from?
Never. I attribute most of that to my very, very, very limited practice with these things.

Then again, I once found and removed a kind of arrow point from my "spiritual body" that I believe I (half-intentionally) got from a co-worker. If I had been better shielded that day, she may not have been able to get through to me in that way. But this is speculation because I don't have enough experinces of that kind to form any kind of solid working thesis.

For me, a lot of this is still in a state of pondering and evaluating. If I do something for prevention/protection purposes, I want to know why, how and what for. If I don't know that, or if the explanations don't make sense to me or don't fit into my spiritual worldview, then I won't do these things anyway...
 

Milfoil

It's really interesting that some feel the need to use protection all the time and others are thinking about it. For me, it's not so much about there never being a need but that I trust my Spirits to warn me. So it is less about 'me/my/I' and much more about a trusting relationship which is developing. Once they showed me something which indicated that should not touch, turns out there was a risk of cross contamination, not from them to me but from me to them!!!

Fear is one of the most basic human instincts but it should not rule us. One of the big reasons that all religions and belief systems undertake fasting and hardships is so that we become the master of ourselves and our instincts, passions, urges, and bodily needs do not rule us. It's the same with fear and hence initiation practices often involve pain, hardship and overcoming one's fears. Being buried alive, walled up in a cave etc, are old ways of teaching us to know ourselves and no longer fear the otherworld.

I would agree with Cat that although we can all specialise in certain areas, unless you thoroughly examine your fears and get through them, you have no place in any kind of mediumship or otherworld work with others. IF something/someone with a serious attitude comes along, our fears are the first thing that they will play on. Having faced these fears, worked through our concerns and built our confidence in otherworld work seems to mean that we are the ones that they leave alone and keep a respectful distance from. How many times have we heard of kids having scary experiences with Ouija boards?
 

celticnoodle

I would imagine that people whose close ones have committed suicide or murder or who abused people or who were heavy drug users (no matter if illegal or not) may often have a particular need to get in touch with them after their deaths to sort stuff out. Which is why your refusal to contact these dead seems rather cruel to me.

that is your opinion. However, my health is my MAIN concern. If I am to contact people who have abused drugs or committed murder, rape, or other things, I actually experience the same in my own body while reading for them. This puts MY health in jeopardy. I am in charge of my health first--and so I am allowed to set my own rules as to whom I will read for and whom I will not. If you do not like my rules, you are free to go elsewhere then. Don't judge me for my opinions and I won't judge you for yours.

In my worldview, the risk to experience unpleasant things and the resulting risk to need more time to get back to functioning "normally" than is convenient is simply part of a medium's job. If one isn't ready to go there (and of course not everyone is, for a whole lot of very good reasons!), I believe that one has no business doing medium work at all. Sorry if that feels harsh to you, but it is what I believe. To me, it's like a doctor who says she will treat your broken finger but won't treat you for an infectuous disease because (even with protection) there is some risk that she may catch it as well. Or a tarot reader who will only read on "lighthearted" subjects but sends away people who really NEED a reading because they are in a serious crisis.

as I said--MY opinions and I feel I must set up some rules to protect myself. I will not be doing anyone any favors, including myself, if I put myself at risk to doing harm to me, or to others I am around. Even people who are well trained and considered quite famous and well revered in the world of mediumship set up rules as to what, where, and whom they will read/bring through. You may not agree with it--which is why you are free to go elsewhere and I would never judge anyone who chooses not to do business with me as a result.

That doesn't mean there is no reason to protect oneself while doing such work. I for one believe that protection for spiritual work is a good idea, as long as you actually know what you're protecting yourself against and what method to use and why - which is why I also believe that Milfoil has asked some really good questions in this thread.

I'm not saying Milfoil did not ask some very good questions here in this thread. However, it appears through what she has posted, that she and I also disagree as far as protection goes. Even well trained exorcists prepare for an exorcism through prayer, fasting and protection.

I chose to protect and ground myself on a daily basis, because (1) I am open to spirit contact 24/7. I am able to somewhat close myself off to them, if need be or if I want to, but there are times when spirits come to me w/o my asking/wanting them to do so. Also, as an empath, I need to keep myself grounded and protected. Otherwise, I could become quite overwhelmed with the emotions I pick up from both the living and the deceased on a daily basis. I think I also demonstrated with that one story a very good reason for needing to protect myself through white light and prayer. I fully believe in prayer and pray daily. Not everyone feels the need to pray on a daily basis either--but I do. I don't judge others for not praying on a daily basis though. It is a personal choice, and this is mine.
 

Milfoil

Even well trained exorcists prepare for an exorcism through prayer, fasting and protection.

I chose to protect and ground myself on a daily basis, because (1) I am open to spirit contact 24/7. I am able to somewhat close myself off to them, if need be or if I want to, but there are times when spirits come to me w/o my asking/wanting them to do so. Also, as an empath, I need to keep myself grounded and protected. Otherwise, I could become quite overwhelmed with the emotions I pick up from both the living and the deceased on a daily basis. I think I also demonstrated with that one story a very good reason for needing to protect myself through white light and prayer. I fully believe in prayer and pray daily. Not everyone feels the need to pray on a daily basis either--but I do. I don't judge others for not praying on a daily basis though. It is a personal choice, and this is mine.

Possibly we posted at the same time but my last post does indicate that I do also recognise the need for protection. Many exorcists (Catholic Priests) don't allow for the possibility that an earth bound spirit can just be a soul so scared or so angry that they need compassion and care. People work in different ways but fasting, prayer and protection seem fine if that is your faith.

Just to add though, that many, many of us are open to Spirit 24/7, we are also empathic but don't share the need to feel protected. Grounding is quite different in my experience. Whatever our personal choices and beliefs are, open minds allows for all possibilities, fear or dogma allows for nothing other than it's own rules.
 

celticnoodle

Possibly we posted at the same time but my last post does indicate that I do also recognise the need for protection. Many exorcists (Catholic Priests) don't allow for the possibility that an earth bound spirit can just be a soul so scared or so angry that they need compassion and care. People work in different ways but fasting, prayer and protection seem fine if that is your faith.

Just to add though, that many, many of us are open to Spirit 24/7, we are also empathic but don't share the need to feel protected. Grounding is quite different in my experience. Whatever our personal choices and beliefs are, open minds allows for all possibilities, fear or dogma allows for nothing other than it's own rules.

ah, my apologies, Milfoil for not wording it correctly. I do know that you do believe in protection at times--depending on the situation and I didn't mean to imply that you don't believe in this step - ever. I recall threads before on this particular issue where you do explain that at times protection is necessary. We just have different ideas on it is all. That is fine, too. I prefer to protect myself daily through white light and prayer. There is nothing wrong about that, if it is how I wish to live and practice. It doesn't mean that it is wrong - or right. It is just what I believe is good for me.

Each and everyone of us have abilities that we can chose to develop and share with others or not. I find that I am fairly good with my medium skills and I choose and am led to use them in the way that works for me. This also happens to include prayer, protection, and grounding practices for me. What works for me may not be necessary for another, but it allows me to do my job in a manner that I am comfortable with.

Yes, I also agree that many exorcists, Catholic or not, do not allow for the possibility of a earth bound spirit can just be a soul who is frightened for what ever reason. I have also come across frightened spirits, whom I've helped to cross over. It upsets me that some religious orders and even individual people not in a certain religious order has these 'rules' that they apply regarding spirits. I, personally, do not believe in the hell that my Catholic 'family' believe in. I still consider myself Catholic, but I don't necessary believe in much that the faith pushes out there. But, it is a title I was born and raised in and so it is a title I apply to myself.

I once took part in a Medium circle, where the leader of said circle believed that ANY spirit coming to us is in need of helping to cross over to the light and that was final. When I voiced my thoughts that I don't believe that every spirit who comes to us is not a spirit of light, I was asked to stop participating, because the leader of the circle feels ALL spirits must be earthbound spirits and are ALWAYS in need of help to cross over. So be it, if she wanted to believe that way, so I dropped out of that weekly circle. It is just a difference of opinion between two mediums.
 

Milfoil

I once took part in a Medium circle, where the leader of said circle believed that ANY spirit coming to us is in need of helping to cross over to the light and that was final. When I voiced my thoughts that I don't believe that every spirit who comes to us is not a spirit of light, I was asked to stop participating, because the leader of the circle feels ALL spirits must be earthbound spirits and are ALWAYS in need of help to cross over. So be it, if she wanted to believe that way, so I dropped out of that weekly circle. It is just a difference of opinion between two mediums.

This doesn't feel like a difference of opinion. You were open to possibilities, they were not. You were considering a wider field of vision and they were slaves to one person's view. This is precisely what I have been saying, to question things which we are told. Sometimes we have to stand up and be counted. Sometimes doing this we are wrong and that in itself is a learning experience. Always playing it safe though, never wanting to offend anyone or be seen as harsh can be very limiting and is more about our own fears than our genuine concerns, it's like a passive form of truth and it's taken me a long time to realise that. Recently I was told a few home truths by a good friend. I am so glad, I needed to REALLY hear them in order to stop being a prat. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't pleasant, I didn't like it, it made me feel small, stupid and like a rank beginner but it was true and now perhaps I can get over that and grow.
 

Cat*

that is your opinion. However, my health is my MAIN concern. If I am to contact people who have abused drugs or committed murder, rape, or other things, I actually experience the same in my own body while reading for them. This puts MY health in jeopardy. I am in charge of my health first--and so I am allowed to set my own rules as to whom I will read for and whom I will not. If you do not like my rules, you are free to go elsewhere then. Don't judge me for my opinions and I won't judge you for yours.
Oh, please, do judge me for my opinions (and even more for my actions). After all, for what else would you judge me? :)

Of course you're the expert on your own experiences, but I still wonder why you always experience being murdered or raped when you contact people who have committed these crimes - surely that doesn't make up their entire existence? And maybe they still were loving mothers or beloved brothers whom their children or siblings want to contact after their death? I'm not trying to provoke you but I'm genuinely puzzled by this because I don't do medium work so I don't know how that would feel and why this or that aspect of a person may come through or not. Please feel free to shed some light onto these matters for me!