Tarot de Paris creation

JPT

Aloha!
I'm new to the Forum but I was nudged to poke around in this neck of the woods.

As I live in Maui — I'll be stayin' home for the holidays! So if I can be of any help, in any way, let me know.

JPT
 

kayne

Hello and welcome to Aeclectic and the Tarot Deck Creation forum... so, have you started your own deck? Tell us more about it. :D
 

JPT

TDP not yet out in Australia?

Yes, kinda...........
It was published in September in the US and UK. If interested you may view it on this site or at my site www.tarotdeparis.com. Don't know if it was released in Oz or not?

jpt
 

Page

Hi JPT,

Welcome!

I've read some stuff on your site and you've really done tons of traveling and work on your cards.

I'm in the middle of a couple of things but I'm also traveliing, which is a bit of a nightmare! I give you a lot of credit for all your hard work.

Why a deck of Paris??
I'm in the Alpes of France and find Paris like London.

maud
 

Pollux

JPT, forgive Kayne, he might have skipped the threads about your deck in the Tarot Deck section of the Forums - when a good number of members were raving about it. ;) *LOL* :D

This is the Tarot Deck Creation section, where deck creators share and discuss ideas and experiences related to the organisation and making of their unique and marvellous works. Other important deck creators browsing these boards are retrokat and Marie, creators respectively of the Golden Tarot and Mary-el Tarot - I am sure there are more, but I can't think of any other right now, sorry... *LOL*

So, share with us some experiences related to the creation of your deck, and some ideas or opinions if you want - and I suppose a very important point for many is how to find a publisher, so if you have advice or suggestions also in these regards I am certain they would be much appreciated. :)
 

Laurel

JPT, I have a question for you relating to tarot creation!

What methods did you use to collect/compile images for Tarot de Paris that both matched your vision and saved you from any copyright hassles?

Laurel
 

JPT

What methods did you use to collect/compile images for Tarot de Paris that both matched your vision and saved you from any copyright hassles?

Laurel

Hi Laurel,
Copyrights are a rather large issue. Yours is a very good question!
You can shoot anything you want outside as long as you don't put in logos and other trademarked properties.

In my case, I asked the Louvre Museum and other museums) about their copyright policies.
The director of the sculpture department explained that the objects are all owned by the People of France! A wonderful Socialist idea in this instance. As long as did not use a tripod or require any other assistance I was free to shoot away. I did use one copyrighted painting of Versaille (King of Fire) and paid a fee for that permission.

Re: Vision - The thing is my initial vision was a massive download of some sort? What I had to do was figure it out as I went. Right up to the writing of the book - after 20 years - it was a constant enigma. That is the only "method" I trust. I was not looking to make a tarot when this started. And over the course of "figuring out" what the hell that flash meant I was certainly not interested in producing a work conceived by my memory-mind. When you have an "out of body-mind" experience it is such a sad mistake to explain it back into a box sealed with dogmatic and recycled REASONS WHY. I look for any means or methods to "stay out" and "create out" trying to discard the need to use the word "WHY". HOW is a much more productive platform for transformation/exploration.

TAROT transcends all the WHYs in the history of mind.

JPT
 

Laurel

JPT said:

Re: Vision - The thing is my initial vision was a massive download of some sort? What I had to do was figure it out as I went. Right up to the writing of the book - after 20 years - it was a constant enigma. That is the only "method" I trust. I was not looking to make a tarot when this started.

JPT

Thank you for both parts of your answer, it was all helpful, but it was this snippet that ~really~ caught my interest.

This week, I've been reading Colin Wilson's _The Occult_ and its had me in a thoughtful state. One of the things that keeps coming up is the idea of "flashes" of information in symbolic from a divine/cosmic source that cause a tremendous change in consciousness... I don't think I'm doing a good job of articulating the idea, but its hard to put in words.

I'd be really interested in hearing more about your "massive download" and the twenty year journey afterwards because it sounds *exactly* like the same thing.

Laurel
 

JPT

How to find a publisher?!#@*

Hi Pollux,

Again...... this deck paved its own way. A very sucessfull author in this genre of divination gave me the email address of a London "Packager" ( roughly a combination of a production company and an agent). I simply sent them 6 JPEG images and that was it.

However, I have a background in fine arts and commercial illustration. There's not much difference when it comes to getting a "foot in the door" for what ever reason.

My best advice is:
1. Be extremely objective about your own work. Throw it up against all the other art you've ever liked and dare to be your hardest critic. Don't just show your friends!
2. Be prepared to go back and do the whole thing over again knowing that it will get better.and better..and better. Challenge yourself and watch what how the mind complains! The hope is that the mind will get fed and just leave! Then you have a great situation in motion. The hands are busy, the theme is brought into clearer focus, the sensitivity to "see" what is enough and what is too much becomes obvious, and the next thing you know you have given rise to something you never knew you could create. I think that is when TAROT steps in.
3. How can a finished deck be used as a tool for mediating between the realms if it were not gestated in CHAOS?
4. Once you have decided on the theme of the deck/book and the style of the images you may only need to create 6 - 10 actual cards.
At that point, you may feel like you are ready to approach a publisher. Caution: your first impression is the most important. Your presentation package needs to be well conceived and easy to explore. If your originals are flat art work it may be a good idea to have them scanned and laid out in an actual card format (with titles) using an application like Photoshop. Then have a neatly arranged page document created to show how the cards will look side by side. This can be very stimulating for a fine artist to see their work transformed into a card series.
From this computer work you should acquire:
> a file of a single page brochure to print and distribute
> a 72 DPI JPEG file of each card to post on the net.
>and a lot of new experience!
The benefits are such that it offers the potential publisher and easier way to see your work in one blink — on one page. It also shows them that you have a good grasp of the creation and the publishing process making it more appealing to work with you.

JPT












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