Thank you so much to everyone who has replied and cheered me up!! Thank you for taking the time to write to me and reply to my post. You guys are so awesome! And you all get karma browny points and good vibes!
I went through a hell of a weekend. But at the end I think it was a very very valuable lesson and experience. Mainly, personally for me, it was a painful lesson on the need to see myself as an active maker of my life rather than always looking for an authority figure to tell me what to do and thinking that the universe is the driver with a plan and I am merely a good passenger. It is a big theme and a weakness of mine. I am such an independent, strong, smart and successful person that you would never see it. I never saw it myself until I crushed and burned in my own personal hell lately. But as with all things painful, your personality gets broken and through the cracks you get issues out of your dark subconscious crawling out - and boy, can they be ugly...
So I've been working on this weakness of mine, but obviously there is still a lot of work to be done.
And I've learned too, that there are some really good souls out there. Really nice, warm, wise and empathetic people. Thank you guys! And that things are not set in stone and that there is a different way of looking at things. As obvious as it sounds, it is really good to be reminded of that, or even better shown. And many more...
Here are my replies to some of your comments:
Then perhaps ask for second opinions on each card. There is a range and a richness, and it helps to see the hazards of those fixed meanings. The cards never said a word -- only a person did. So live well, today.
You are right! I actually went to talk to somebody today and told her the cards that I have gotten and she gave me a completely different look at them. Which really made a lot of sense to me, not to mention being way more positive than what the original reader said.
Well that's interesting, a good reader should be able to analyse bad readings and offer solutions.
She didn't do that. She didn't offer any solutions except for that "it all happens for a reason and that there is a valuable life lesson for me in all that somehow. Well, jee.. thanks so much... I was on a verge of tears at the end and she saw it but she left me like that with no good word to offer.
...The reader may be a phenomenon but she/he surely knows zilch about dealing with human hearts... She could have offered ways to avoid the problems or how to face them a bit stronger.
...A reading is NOT set in stone. It is just how energies are alligned at that specific point. They can change and so can you.
She was really not.
Thank you for reminding me about the "not set in stone" and the "specific point" in time points. I know all that, but its easy to forget when you are blown away by something and taken out of balance. So its good to be reminded. It really is.
I'm wondering why getting another reading with better cards would make you think things will turn out better. How will you know which reading was the one that's right? Getting another reading in hopes of getting an outcome you like better makes no sense.
I agree. I decided not to do that at the end. I think the lesson in all this for me was to stop looking for external "experts" and people with credentials, no matter how supposedly good they are, to tell me how things are and how thing are going to be. I think it was a very valuable lesson.
Why not just vow to do all you can to change your outcome? You're not a victim of life, you're as powerful over it as you choose to be. Take the cards that the lady drew for you and use the information to take steps to make the outcome different. After all, if you're warned of a road washed out when you're driving, it makes sense not to keep driving toward it, doesn't it? So just write down what she told you, what the cards were if you can remember, and then map out a way to make things happen differently. It really is possible to do that.
Thank you. It is a good way to look at things. Thank you.
Yes, it is a weakness of mine that I keep getting my face shoved at (I guess until I finally get over myself) - not to see myself as a victim or a passenger, but rather a driver of my life and an active maker of it. A good reminder.
I am curious- how much did you share with her during the reading? Did you interact a lot, and mention that you felt you were coming out of a long, difficult period?
Yes, I told her the whole situation. In a weird way, I feel like the spread described pretty accurately what I already had experienced, what I just went through. I wonder if that is possible that the lady (or the cards) picked up on my life situation from my immediate past. Something that I was brewing in for several years, and am just recently getting out of. Maybe it is still hanging around me in my energy field or something, I don't know... Could that be? Cause it really was pretty accurate to what already has happened in my life in the last several years. Not something I want to go through again...
In my deck and readings I too would see the 4 wands very differently as well : " it is the Lord of all manifested active Power... and is now built up into a solid system ... It is also referred to Venus in Aries, which indicates that one cannot establish one's work without tact and gentleness. "
The spread showed a long period of shit, then something finally good and then abrupt and painful ending. So the clarification question was "how long will the good period last?" and the answer was 4 of wands.
Many 'professionals' are 'successful' because they are good at the process of success, that doesnt mean they are good at the actual skill they profess to offer ... I run into them all the time ... after a while they stand out and one can detect them ...
Dont let peoples reputations fool you. In many cases people that have a reputation and are popular are that way because they have learnt to manage those things ... it might not be related to other skills - just look at the marketing and adoration around some entertainers that have little talent .
Nowadays, if one wants to be 'successful professionally' you have to understand and apply all that rubbish. Its all about marketing yourself
Thanks! I agree. Thank you
And I do need to be reminded of this. As I already wrote above, I have a weakness of trusting "professionals" and "experts". Very hard to shake off the "good girl" mentality - I am working hard on it for years, but still... (off-topic, mothers out here, don't raise your girls to be "good girls". It really will screw them up later in life. Just saying...)
Why not get a new reading ? ... not like the first of course .... but its not really the reading that needs to be done again - its the person. Since all readings can be different, in the cards that come up . or the same spread can be read differently by others ... I think its the process and the reader that needs to be redone ... the acrtuall card combination may be immaterial.
True. I was blessed to talk today to several wise wise people and they offered a different way of looking at the exact same card situation. So even if it was not a new reading per se, it was a different way of looking at the same reading and also a point of view from people who are not in the Tarot realm but in other esoteric modalities. It really helped to get a second opinion.
...I had a very bad year of depression some years ago and I realised I had to becareful with readings, they can be harsh and negative! I had some horrible ones and I realised to be more wary about them. if you ask a question or look for an answer, you have to be prepared for the answer, positive or negative. But every card in tarot offers something, they are not just negative with no hope! The reader should have given you more!
Like others have said, they should have given you suggestions and not just left you! The cards in your reading are suggestions of what could be, like a warning. Perhaps you can change things to avoid them. Also perhaps look at those cards for yourself and look for a solution. The reading was negative but we have freewill what we do next!
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(((Lily))) I think you got a bad reading, I'm sorry! I always try to leave the reader feeling better than at the start and with empowerment and options!
Thank you Daniel! I will try the spreads you have suggested. And thank you for your comments!
If you don't like the reading, just move on. Take it for what it's worth and just get about continuing on the positive path you were on before you went to her. Chalk it up as an interesting---and frustrating---experience, but don't dwell on it and drag it around with you. You can't let this totally derail your progress. You're in charge of your life and to let this undermine all you've achieved is just useless. She isn't in control of your life, you are.
Grizabella, I wish I could do just that!! I am trying, I really do, but it is not easy. I am coming out from a long period of darkness, pain and suffering and am still pretty raw and vulnerable. (Just to illustrate, I was suffering debilitating anxiety attacks every day till about a few weeks ago and was fairly non-functional just two months ago...). So it is hard not to take these readings very personally when you are being raw like that. And her being an expert and all that really made her words get under my skin. Knowing my vulnerable state, I really shouldn't have had any readings done. Big mistake. I worked too hard to get myself back together and it was not needed. But as I said, I just happened to be around her this weekend and it seemed like a good idea. I really did want to hear an affirmation and something good. Stupid.. Bad idea. Dont' do that...
...I think Lenormands are great for answering very cut and dried matters. However, I think doing a three card tarot spread might have presented you with more options of what to do simply by the nature of the cards.
I told those same 3 Lenormand cards to another person today and she gave me a very different way of looking at them, that made a whole more sense to me, not to mention for it being way more positive.
...Maybe in this case, it's not to give too much of your own personal power to an authority type figure.
Yes GoldenWolf. I think this exactly what it was. As I wrote before. Word by word. Thank you. Yes. Yes. A hell of a lesson...
And know that suicide really is never the answer. I read a study once that interviewed survivors of failed suicide attempts, and an overwhelming majority of these people stated that, just after making the move to try and end their life, they felt regret and wished they hadn't. Things will always be ok in the end, and if things aren't ok, it isn't the end. Trust that things will get better, amd seek out your loved ones (or professionals if you must) if you need their help.
Thank you dear. I know that. I have two little kids and they are the reason I didn't go that route and never will. I can't do it to them. But I did read a whole lot about the subject, so I know what you are talking about. I really do understand why some people end up doing that at the end though. Its not that you want to die, its just it feels too painful to live... But alas, I dug myself out of that hole, so I am not there anymore (taught me a lot about humility and empathy towards other people though...)
Again, thank you all for your kind and wise words!
