Gilded Tarot

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 15 Dec 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Tarot Sparrow	15 Dec 2003
Why oh why is this deck unpublished? I need it! http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/gilded/index.html *drools*

HudsonGray	15 Dec 2003
Ditto for the Golden Tarot, that was SUPPOSED to be out in October. Still isn't, and no word from US Games as to when it will be.

Le_Corsair	15 Dec 2003
Dead Star, you have discovered one of the most eagerly anticipated Tarot decks of 2004, the Gilded Tarot by Ciro Marchetti. If you truly have to have it, a limited edition is available from the artist. Here is a thread with a review and a link to Ciro Marchetti's website where you can purchase the limited edition. Bob :THERM

Tarot Sparrow	15 Dec 2003
Thank you, Le_Corsair. I can surely wait for it, if it's going to be out next year :) But I'll check out the limited edition anyway. Just for some reason I thought that deck had been around a few years. Has it been in progress for that long? It seems like I'd seen it before, or at least heard the name a lot... I'm not paying that much for it :D I can wait. I love it though.

Majecot	15 Dec 2003
OH MY !!! Dead Star what has happened to you . **pats the seat next to her** Here, we have a seat at Taroholics Anyomous saved for you. One must learn to be paitent when waiting for a new deck. ;)

urbandryad	15 Dec 2003
Lord, now ~I~ want this deck! Lol, it can wait until 2004 though, I have a couple decks on top of my growing list already. xD Lee

Moonbow*	15 Dec 2003
Dead Star Are you the same person who just a while ago had only one deck??? I remember being very impressed at the time - now look at you. You've got the Gilded on the brain.......... .......I have to have it tooo!!!............ Moonbow* })

Thea Lynx	15 Dec 2003
And to think I came on this accidentally while trying to click on the Gill Tarot. I do not want to have to wait until 2005 to get this deck - my addiction is far to strong and this deck looks much too sumptuous to not have!! Thea

urbandryad	15 Dec 2003
You could cheat and do screencaps of all the card images. Er, that would be bad though wouldn't it? I've 'printed' complete decks from places like Tarot.com and although the quality isn't the best, *depending on printer/image quality* you still have at least the deck (once you cut out the images and paste them to cue cards, :P) they just wouldn't have the back, unless you printed out about 78 of those too. ;) Don't know what I just suggested is illegal or not, but it'll tide you until you have the actual deck, heh. ^-^;; Lee

destinyawaitsme	15 Dec 2003
No Dead Star! Don't sell out! Don't walk towards the light! R - E - S - I - S - T!!!!

Tarot Sparrow	15 Dec 2003
It wasn't my fault, the tarot told me to do it!

cirom	15 Dec 2003
Dead Star, I take your impatience as a compliment, thank you, My impression from my communications with Llewellyn suggest that they are quite serious about the October 2004 publication, especially as this will coincide with their Astrology 2005 calendar release, for which I've provided illustrations. I've placed images of each card on my website as I've learned from these very forums that many members appreciate being able to review a deck fully before deciding to add it to their collection, or not. So I'd prefer to believe that people were'nt downloading the images to make dummy decks, or heaven forbid attempt to reproduce them for resale as happened I believe to Kat Black and her wonderful Golden Tarot. Any way that really seems a lot of work just to end up with a poor low resolution rendition. Nevertheless if it helps pass the time untill next October, don't forget I'm offering computer desktop decorations of various Gilded Tarot themes, for free to anyone who requests them. Visit the posters and prints link of the Gilded Tarot section on my web site and choose. I'll also be finished with a Gilded Tarot screen saver within a couple of weeks that can be downloaded for free. Anyone who wishes to see a particular card in more detail, just contact me. Thank you all for your interest and encouragement. This really has been a captivating project, and input from forum members has been very much part of its creation.

cirom	15 Dec 2003
Bye the way keep a look out for an upcoming competition that will be offered exclusivly to Aeclectic members. It will be an interactive puzzle that will hopefully test your familiarity with multiple Tarot decks, and hopefully prove to be challenging enough even for you Tarot gurus. Prizes will include Gilded Tarot posters for runner ups and a special edition deck for the winner. Hopefully it will be ready just after Christmas.

Tarot Sparrow	16 Dec 2003
Thanks Ciro. I didn't know you were a member ;) I'll definitely check out the desktop themes and screensaver when it's out. Thanks. And I'll be eagerly awaiting the publishing of your deck.

Moonbow*	16 Dec 2003
........... Bad.......bad......Dead Star......resist....resist..... M*

Tarot Sparrow	16 Dec 2003
No hypnotising me, Moonbow!

Moonbow*	16 Dec 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Dead Star It wasn't my fault, the tarot told me to do it! Yeah Yeah, right........... M*

fairyhedgehog	16 Dec 2003
Quote: Originally posted by cirom Bye the way keep a look out for an upcoming competition that will be offered exclusivly to Aeclectic members. Something else I can't wait for ;) At least it's not as long a wait as for the deck. It really is an amazingly sumptuous deck.

Tarot Sparrow	16 Dec 2003
I wanna be a subscriber...damnit :(

urbandryad	16 Dec 2003
Me too darnit! I can't AFFORD to subscribe! *cries* guess I gotta wait until 2005 for the Gilded Tarot. ;___; Lee

dolphinprincess	16 Dec 2003
Quote: Originally posted by cirom Bye the way keep a look out for an upcoming competition that will be offered exclusivly to Aeclectic members. It will be an interactive puzzle that will hopefully test your familiarity with multiple Tarot decks, and hopefully prove to be challenging enough even for you Tarot gurus. Prizes will include Gilded Tarot posters for runner ups and a special edition deck for the winner. Hopefully it will be ready just after Christmas. WOW.. a special edition deck for the winner! I can't wait for this competition :o) I think we should flood Llewellyn's email boxes and plead with them to release this deck as SOON as possible. We are all going crazy with anticipation!!

cirom	16 Dec 2003
Hi, me again. I seem to have mislead some of you regarding the competion. I don't intend it to be limited only to subscribers, but open to ALL members of the Aeclectic community. Happy reading:-)

Moonbow*	16 Dec 2003
Uncanny.... she looks just like me!!!!! Moonbow* })

Majecot	16 Dec 2003
How exciting!!! A special edition!!! I would so love to have one of those... It is otherwise completely unatainable.

Majecot	16 Dec 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Moonbow* Uncanny.... she looks just like me!!!!! Moonbow* }) Moonbow* u r so lucky... I wish I I looked like that...lol :)

Le_Corsair	16 Dec 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Moonbow* Uncanny.... she looks just like me!!!!! Moonbow* }) I was going to ask Ciro if his model was unattached, but, hey... Moonbow, are you unattached? ;) Bob :THERM

cirom	16 Dec 2003
Actually I have to admit that the model was very seductive. She was generally complimentiong me on the deck, was hinting that she found me extremely attractive and quite irresistable. The situation was definitely looking up as she came on stronger and stronger, she walked towards me with, yes you guessed it, the lovers card in her hand. What happened next ? I don't know, thats when I woke up -:)

lark	16 Dec 2003
I'm so glad the contest is open to all. I can't afford to be a subscriber right at this time either. When my husband saw the poster he said " Honey why don't you dress like that when you go read tarot?" I told him "Because nobody would be looking at the cards!" Beautiful picture! The time of the sterotyped ugly, old, crone gypsy tarot reader is over! Three cheers for Ciro!!!

Le_Corsair	16 Dec 2003
Quote: Originally posted by cirom Actually I have to admit that the model was very seductive. She was generally complimentiong me on the deck, was hinting that she found me extremely attractive and quite irresistable. The situation was definitely looking up as she came on stronger and stronger, she walked towards me with, yes you guessed it, the lovers card in her hand. What happened next ? I don't know, thats when I woke up -:) Oooo, I hate it when that happens! :laugh: :joke: Bob :THERM

Tarot Sparrow	16 Dec 2003
Yay, contests for all! :D Nice dream. I'd subscribe, I can easily afford it, except I'd probably have to send a money order. I don't have a card on PayPal anymore :( So it would take a little while.

Moonbow*	16 Dec 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Le_Corsair I was going to ask Ciro if his model was unattached, but, hey... Moonbow, are you unattached? ;) Bob :THERM Well Bob, would I tell you if I was? I don't want to ruin the picture you have of me now do I? Moonbow* })

fairyhedgehog	16 Dec 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Dead Star I'd subscribe, I can easily afford it, except I'd probably have to send a money order. I don't have a card on PayPal anymore :( So it would take a little while. I hope you do decide to subscribe, Dead Star, even if it does take a while for it to go through. You'll get the warm glow from knowing that you're keeping aeclectic going even before you're eligible to join us in Chat :)

Tarot Sparrow	16 Dec 2003
I'm sure I will, I just don't know when. Maybe after the holidays are over, I'm not sure. I wish I had done it sooner! I thought I could get along without it but I don't really like being named "Elder" haha. And Chat and Spirituality are far too tempting, I feel like I'm missing out! And someday I really want to help with an Aeclectic Tarot Deck :)

Thea Lynx	05 Jan 2004
I am excited beyond belief. As a birthday present to myself I have the Gilded Tarot on order!!! My deck starts production this week. I have spent quite a bit of time on the Ciro's website, drooling over the images I will soon be able to look at up close and personal - and having read the review here, I know this will be a very exceptional deck. Of course, the first thing I will do is compare each card to the ones on the site and see where the difference is - already I'm hoping its the High Priestess - my soul card. I have truly joined the ranks of deck junky. Thea

mj07	05 Mar 2004
did I come across this deck? now I'll be obsessed with it till it comes out in the fall! I WISH I could afford the limited edition, it sounds spectacular!

Summerdream	05 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Thea Lynx I am excited beyond belief. As a birthday present to myself I have the Gilded Tarot on order!!! My deck starts production this week. I have spent quite a bit of time on the Ciro's website, drooling over the images I will soon be able to look at up close and personal - and having read the review here, I know this will be a very exceptional deck. Of course, the first thing I will do is compare each card to the ones on the site and see where the difference is - already I'm hoping its the High Priestess - my soul card. I have truly joined the ranks of deck junky. Thea Oh Thea!!! Lunakasha and I will have to drive on over and see. We live in Maine too, hehehe. Congrats and happy birthday. Momof3girls:))

lunakasha	08 Mar 2004
Hey TheaLynx..... Happy Birthday....you lucky dawg, you!!! When is your b-day??? Mine is coming up next month.....but it's funny how no one takes me seriously when I drop hints about this deck..... I mean, come on....I think I'm worth it....right??? :eek: LOL.....good for you, I am sure you will be very happy with it! Oh, and yeah, Mom and I would love to drive out and see it....I mean, YOU, to see YOU and wish you a happy b-day in person..... :) Luna

yve	08 Mar 2004
I don't understand why it's taking so long for this deck to get published! It's so wonderful and I think would be a very popular and sought after deck! I know that it will be on my wish list!

lunakasha	08 Mar 2004
Hi yve! It sounds pretty definite that the Gilded Tarot is being published by Llewellyn and due for release in October...but as we all know, the release dates are not "set in stone" and delays in publication are not uncommon. Like you, I am very anxious to get my hands on these cards, but for now, all we can do is wait.....unless of course you are one of the fortunate few who have purchased the limited edition version....have you visited the website??? You can find out more by visiting the website, here: http://www.ciromarchetti.com :) Luna

yve	09 Mar 2004
I did check out the site and that's why i developed this obsession to have the deck, although I am not one of the fortunate few who has that kind of money to spend on a limited edition so I have to settle for the mass produced version.

mj07	09 Mar 2004
I don't understand why it's taking so long to publish, either! I can only hope it means they'll do an OUTSTANDING job with it... wonder if they'll put out a book along with it like they do some of their other sets???

Lee	09 Mar 2004
Hey folks, this deck had been scheduled for release next year, but they moved up their schedule and now it's being released earlier, in October. So you'll be seeing it earlier than you ordinarily would have! It will be a deck/book set. -- Lee :)

Summerdream	09 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Lee Hey folks, this deck had been scheduled for release next year, but they moved up their schedule and now it's being released earlier, in October. So you'll be seeing it earlier than you ordinarily would have! It will be a deck/book set. -- Lee :) Cool!!! Thanks for the info Lee! Momof3girls:)

lunakasha	09 Mar 2004
Thanks Lee! I had been wondering if there would be a book also....great news! And after all, October is only seven months away.....not bad considering I have already been waiting for about five months! At least we can always go to the website when we need a "fix", right???? :D Luna

dolphinprincess	09 Mar 2004
Isn't this the book that should contain the spread Lark submitted to Llewellyn - for the contest she won???? I think that's how we all started oogling the Gilded to begin with... ;)

lark	09 Mar 2004
Yup that's the book. I signed a release a few months ago. Now please don't hate me...but I get a free Guilded Tarot when it's released from Llewellyn. This deck and I were just ment to be together.

dolphinprincess	09 Mar 2004
OH, Lark. No one could ever hate you! You deserve it!!! Now you can use the new set to read for others.. and can keep the BEAUTIFUL limited edition for your self :D

lark	09 Mar 2004
That's my plan... :D

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
CONGRATS to you, lark!!!! Yes, you deserve all the best....and now you will have a deck to share with others whilst you keep the precioussssss limited edition all to yourself!!!! Enjoy!!! :D Luna

Centaur	11 Mar 2004
Lucky you Lark!!! ;) I really want this deck. I would even prostitute myself for a copy of the limited edition! Hahaha! (A joke ofcourse!) C

lark	11 Mar 2004
Are you $350 dollars worth of good? Wow that's pretty darn good. :D

Centaur	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark Are you $350 dollars worth of good? Wow that's pretty darn good. :D LOL! Maybe prostitution wouldn't be the best way to obtain this deck.... haha. C

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
Well...... I have been racking my brains trying to figure out a (preferably legal) way to get my hands on this deck....but I don't think I'm *$350-good* so......I need to get a little more creative I guess! O the agony of desperation.....:eek: Any suggestions please??? Legal options only, of course........;) :D Luna

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
Just out of curiosity..... How would you define "$350 good"???? }) Luna (having impure thoughts, hehe :D)

Centaur	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Just out of curiosity..... How would you define "$350 good"???? DAMN GOOD! LOOOOOOOL! Now... I am off to put myself in the trading forum. Hahaha. C

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur DAMN GOOD! LOOOOOOOL! Now... I am off to put myself in the trading forum. Hahaha. OK....good....I'll meet you there later!!! ;) Luna :D

lark	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur LOL! Maybe prostitution wouldn't be the best way to obtain this deck.... haha. C Now don't sell yourself short! Maybe you could offer yourself up for a long weekend. What you can't provide in quality could be made up in quantity. ;)

Summerdream	11 Mar 2004
I found a post called "Way out of my price range" about how much people would be willing to pay for certain decks. Thought it might be of some interest. http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9587 Enjoy! Momof3girls:)

Centaur	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark Now don't sell your self short! Maybe you could offer yourself up for a long weekend. What you can't provide in quality could be made up in quanity. ;) Haha! And I could offer some readings also?! Right... Luna and I are going to claim our ground on the street corner of the trading forum and see who sidles up to the kerb! LOL. C

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark Now don't sell your self short! Maybe you could offer yourself up for a long weekend. What you can't provide in quality could be made up in quanity. ;) Good point, lark....$350 for the weekend translates to....um.....about $6.20 per hour....not bad!!!!}) :D Luna

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur Haha! And I could offer some readings also?! Right... Luna and I are going to claim our ground on the street corner of the trading forum and see who sidles up to the kerb! LOL. Sounds like a plan, C! We might make LOTS of money with our READINGS....how much should we charge anyway???? I'm thinking maybe......$35 per reading (cuz I'm kinda newbie) so after only ten readings.....that baby will be mine!!!! :D Luna

Centaur	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Good point, lark....$350 for the weekend translates to....um.....about $6.20 per hour....not bad!!!!}) :D Luna That works out at around £3 in UK cash. LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE! There must be a Union to complain to!!! But then, for the Gilded, I guess I could lower my cash-expectancy. Ha! C

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
Yeah, that's pretty pathetic.....I think minimum wage here is actually less than $6/hour....REALLY pathetic!!!! I think the $35 readings might be a better way to go.....less work and more money, of course!!! :D Luna

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
Hey C! I was just thinking.....maybe Ciro will read our little exchange here, take pity and offer us a job???? Picture us holding a sign: WILL WORK FOR GILDED TAROT :laugh: Luna

Centaur	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Hey C! I was just thinking.....maybe Ciro will read our little exchange here, take pity and offer us a job???? Picture us holding a sign: WILL WORK FOR GILDED TAROT :laugh: Luna Haha. I was thinking along those lines! Hell, perhaps we could publicise the Gilded, by doing some readings with our own free copy of the Gilded?! *evil cackle* C

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur Haha. I was thinking along those lines! Hell, perhaps we could publicise the Gilded, by doing some readings with our own free copy of the Gilded?! *evil cackle* C NOW you're talking, buddy!!! Hehe....evil minds think alike!!! }) Luna

cirom	11 Mar 2004
Sorry ladies...no can do. Out of the goodness of my heart I was going to take you all up on your suggestion and come to some kind of arrangement. Then my wife came along (she posed for some of the cards by the way) read over some of the previous posts, noted words such as prostitution, street corners, hourly rates etc, and then gave me "the look" as she softly wispered in my ear...don't even think about it.

Centaur	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom Sorry ladies...no can do. Out of the goodness of my heart I was going to take you all up on your suggestion and come to some kind of arrangement. Then my wife came along (she posed for some of the cards by the way) read over some of the previous posts, noted words such as prostitution, street corners, hourly rates etc, and then gave me "the look" as she softly wispered in my ear...don't even think about it. Well, erm... (JERRY SPRINGER MOMENT COMING UP!) I'm actually a man. Ha! C

cirom	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur Well, erm... (JERRY SPRINGER MOMENT COMING UP!) I'm actually a man. Ha! C Oh fudge, I hate when that happens, now the wife is really going to give me "the look"

lunakasha	11 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom Oh fudge, I hate when that happens, now the wife is really going to give me "the look" LMAO, Ciro!!!! :laugh: Don't you just hate when that happens??? Hey, just for the record, I did mention in one of my posts that I was looking for some *legal* means of obtaining the deck...... so please let the Mrs. know there's nothing to worry about....haha! As for Centaur, well....I'll leave THAT between the two of you! :laugh::laugh:hehe! Thanks for making me laugh my head off......it's been fun! :D Luna

lunakasha	12 Mar 2004
Getting back on track here.... I thought it might be fun to keep the discussion going while we wait SIX MORE LONG MONTHS for the Gilded to be released.... Here is my first question: What are your favorite cards from the Gilded tarot, and what makes them stand out for you? Again, here is the link to the cards, for those of you new to this thread: http://www.ciromarchetti.com Come on, all you Gilded fans....tell us all about it! :D Luna

lunakasha	12 Mar 2004
I am getting VERY curious about the book that is going to be published by Llewellyn and released with the deck..... So I am hoping Ciro can give us a little teaser information here.... Ciro??? If you're out there (when you get a few minutes...we know you're a busy man), would you please help us out??? As you may have noticed, some of us at AT are just a tad impatient at times.....hehe ;) Thanks so much, Ciro! :D Luna

Centaur	13 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha What are your favorite cards from the Gilded tarot, and what makes them stand out for you? At first thought, I am thinking of The Lovers... it is an amazing looking card... and there is something damn sexy about it too! Haha! I also like the way that those sparkly little stars are falling... almost looks like gold-dust. The Devil is also a stunning card: dark, sensual, and alluring. ;) C

lunakasha	13 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur ...The Lovers... it is an amazing looking card... and there is something damn sexy about it too! Haha! I also like the way that those sparkly little stars are falling... almost looks like gold-dust. I love this card too, Centaur! There are so many, it is hard to focus on only a few... Of the Majors, two of my favorites are Temperance and Judgement. In Temperance, I love the splashes of light around her, and the colors in the background...the light breaking through the clouds. The Judgement card is incredible...I love the expression on her face...serenity....the detail in her golden-winged helmet and the starry skies behind her. I am also very fond of the Knights in this deck...each has its own unique combination of colors, and when you look at all four of them together, the effect is just stunning! I especially love the different colors used for the skies in these cards...the Knight of Wands is one of my favorites in terms of color. He is dressed in red and gold, standing under a perfectly purple-hued, sunset sky.....it just takes you away! :D Luna

dolphinprincess	14 Mar 2004
The Lovers was the first card I noticed... (same for my close friend).. it is amazing. I also love the two of petacles, as it has dolphin..!... I could easily keep going... way to many cards that are beautiful :D

Centaur	14 Mar 2004
Yes, there are dolphins on a few of the cards if I remember correctly. Very nice! ;) C

smokey	14 Mar 2004
Hello everybody, Just ran across this thread this morn. & wanted to put my 2-cents in! WOW!!! I apparently got some big-time wrong info. @ Llewellyn , cuz the guy I spoke to in mid-Jan.'04 told me without a doubt, the Gilded Tarot would be available SEPTEMBER!!! Now, I really am devastated as I see here Oct. instead; but "just-for-grins" I'm making another call Monday. Best regards to all, Smokey...

mj07	14 Mar 2004
I love the High Priestess in this deck, for some reason! She's styill mysterious (wearing a mask) but unlike most of the RWS type of decks, she's not portrayed king-like (and Emperor-like, and Hierophant-like, etc.), regal, remote and guarded. I guess I find her far more accessible and cheerful. She floats above the waters, rather than sort of blocking the way to them, and her back is arched, echoing the shape of the crescent moon behind her in the sky! Just beautiful!

Lee	14 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by mj07 [...] her back is arched, echoing the shape of the crescent moon behind her in the sky! Just beautiful! Thanks mj07, that's a great observation, it helps me appreciate that card more. -- Lee

Thea Lynx	17 Mar 2004
I have to agree about the High Priestess - being my soul card I was drawn to it immediately and can not think of any deck that has one more beautiful than this. The Six of Swords is another particular favorite of mine (but it also has a bit of a story behind it in my deck) For those who have not been fortunate enough to see the deck up close and personal - it is even more gorgeous, more detailed, richer colors in person than on the website. As soon as the regular version comes out, I plan to get it more as a supplement to the original than anything else - OK, I'm greedy for this deck! The only thing I have missed is the book, but since that seems to be coming with the deck I'll be content to wait until then. One thing I have been wondering, though, is - On how many of the cards did Ciro use himself as the model? Thea Lynx

cirom	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Thea Lynx One thing I have been wondering, though, is - On how many of the cards did Ciro use himself as the model? Thea Lynx I'd like to say I was the model for the Devil....but then my family would burst out laughing. Actually I am in several (albeit quite modified from one to another), i.e. I'm a dolphin in one and a deer in another:-), so is the rest of the family, my son (two of pentacles plus others), my daughter (Judgement plus others), my wife (Temperance, Lovers plus others), my assistant (Strength, plus others), even my ex-wife, actually I was going to use her for an original version of the Devil (just kidding), now she's the Empress.

dolphinprincess	18 Mar 2004
Afther this set is finally released.. I wonder if I'll touch another deck ever again????? Hard to beat perfection ;)

lark	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by dolphinprincess Afther this set is finally released.. I wonder if I'll touch another deck ever again????? Hard to beat perfection ;) You might not! I haven't used anything else since I got my Guilded and my Golden... Between those two I think I have found my two favorite decks. My Robin Wood is quite miffed..... My only problem is which one to use for my daily spread. They decided to take turns. Guilded's turn today.

lark	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom I'd like to say I was the model for the Devil....but then my family would burst out laughing. Actually I am in several (albeit quite modified from one to another), i.e. I'm a dolphin in one and a deer in another:-), so is the rest of the family, my son (two of pentacles plus others), my daughter (Judgement plus others), my wife (Temperance, Lovers plus others), my assistant (Strength, plus others), even my ex-wife, actually I was going to use her for an original version of the Devil (just kidding), now she's the Empress. cirom that's your wife on the Lover card? Well then poor Centaur doesn't have a chance then does he!

cirom	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark cirom that's your wife on the Lover card? Well then poor Centaur doesn't have a chance then does he! No, I'm afraid he doesn't. Actually she'll kill me for writing this, but she's also the model for the Star. But she insisted on censership rights (and some modesty retouching) on that one.

lark	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom No, I'm afraid he doesn't. Actually she'll kill me for writing this, but she's also the model for the Star. But she insisted on censership rights (and some modesty retouching) on that one. The gods were certainly smiling down on her the day she was born.... :) The woman on the Queen of Wands (I think she is also on the 7 and 9 of Pentacles) looks like a young Elizabeth Taylor. Especially on the Queen card. The way the light from the flame is illuminating her face. It's just beautiful.

lunakasha	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom I'd like to say I was the model for the Devil....but then my family would burst out laughing. Actually I am in several (albeit quite modified from one to another), i.e. I'm a dolphin in one and a deer in another:-), so is the rest of the family, my son (two of pentacles plus others), my daughter (Judgement plus others), my wife (Temperance, Lovers plus others), my assistant (Strength, plus others), even my ex-wife, actually I was going to use her for an original version of the Devil (just kidding), now she's the Empress. OK, Ciro.....I just have to ask: Are you the model for the Magician??? *with hair extensions of course* :P :) Luna

Centaur	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark cirom that's your wife on the Lover card? Well then poor Centaur doesn't have a chance then does he! LOL. I am not in the business of turning straight men into gay men. I agree that she is very, very pretty. And to be part of such a lovely deck. So, erm... who is the model in the Devil card, and can I have his telephone number? ;) C

lunakasha	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur So, erm... who is the model in the Devil card, and can I have his telephone number? ;) C LMAO, Centaur!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Of course, then again, he might be straight....wouldn't we all like to know???? ;) hehehe }) :) Luna

Centaur	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha LMAO, Centaur!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Of course, then again, he might be straight....wouldn't we all like to know???? ;) hehehe }) :) Luna If he's straight then i'll dress up as a woman and try my chances. Ha! A joke ofcourse!!!! I also am not in the business of wearing women's clothing. OMG. I cannot believe I even wrote that last paragraph. C

cirom	18 Mar 2004
Regarding the Devil, I'm not sure if he's attached to anyone in particular at the moment, but I do know that he popular because he always seems to be surrounded by number of "flames" who have a burning desire for him, so he's obviously a hottie. Lucky liitle devil.

lark	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur If he's straight then i'll dress up as a woman and try my chances. Ha! A joke ofcourse!!!! I also am not in the business of wearing women's clothing. OMG. I cannot believe I even wrote that last paragraph. C Centaur, I think Lunakasha and I just bring out the Devil in you.....

lunakasha	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark Centaur, I think Lunakasha and I just bring out the Devil in you..... Yes, Lark........there is something "diabolical" going on with him! Mwhahahahahahaaaaaa!!!! :D }) Luna

Centaur	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark Centaur, I think Lunakasha and I just bring out the Devil in you..... Ha! I think that you may be correct! I am the devilish sort anyway. ;) C

Le_Corsair	18 Mar 2004
By the way: Nice avatar, Centaur! Bob :THERM

lunakasha	18 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha OK, Ciro.....I just have to ask: Are you the model for the Magician??? *with hair extensions of course* :P :) Luna Ummmm.....does anyone else think that Ciro is avoiding the question??? ;) Hehehe....then again, maybe I'm way off..... C'mon Ciro.....is that you hiding under all that hair???? Wait a minute.......is that Ciro behind the mask, dancing around FOOL-ishly??? LOL...this is too much fun! :D Luna :D

Centaur	18 Mar 2004
Thanks Bob! :) So, Ciro. How did you manage to find the models for your cards? Are they all friends? Or did you use some form of tarot-agency? Ha! C

Namaste	19 Mar 2004
I spoke to Barbara Moore over at Lewellyn last week and she told me that Ciro's Gilded tarot (mass market edition) will be, published in September/October of this year. Sorry if this is old news. Go ahead..., you have my permission to berate the messenger... :laugh:, if that should be the case.

lunakasha	19 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Namaste I spoke to Barbara Moore over at Lewellyn last week and she told me that Ciro's Gilded tarot (mass market edition) will be, published in September/October of this year. Sorry if this is old news. Go ahead..., you have my permission to berate the messenger... :laugh:, if that should be the case. Not a problem at all, Namaste..... This is very good news, nice to get confirmation from the publisher that everything is on schedule so far....thanks for the update! :) Luna

Thea Lynx	19 Mar 2004
Hi Lunakasha, I rather took it for a given that Ciro was his own model for the Magician - it struck me the first time I looked at the card - never occurred to me to think otherwise. I did love finding out the identifies (so to speak) of some of the other models - seems to add a nice touch to the whole deck. Thea Lynx

Centaur	19 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Namaste I spoke to Barbara Moore over at Lewellyn last week and she told me that Ciro's Gilded tarot (mass market edition) will be, published in September/October of this year. I am hoping that it will be September rather than October! Ha! C

lunakasha	19 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur I am hoping that it will be September rather than October! Ha! C Well...since we are talking about Llewellyn rather than US Games...I am feeling somewhat optimistic! ;) :) Luna

lunakasha	19 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Thea Lynx Hi Lunakasha, I rather took it for a given that Ciro was his own model for the Magician - it struck me the first time I looked at the card - never occurred to me to think otherwise. I did love finding out the identifies (so to speak) of some of the other models - seems to add a nice touch to the whole deck. Thea Lynx Yes...me too...but I don't know if he has actually confirmed it, has he? Or maybe it is just so obviously him that he didn't think it was necessary? :D I'm trying to remember now....getting a mental picture of Ciro.... Oh boy....my brain is just not cooperating right now! :eek: It was definitely interesting to hear more background info from The Man! :D :) Luna

Centaur	19 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Well...since we are talking about Llewellyn rather than US Games...I am feeling somewhat optimistic! ;) I guess that the wait will make it all the more better! Hehe. C

CreativeFire	19 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Here is my first question: What are your favorite cards from the Gilded tarot, and what makes them stand out for you? :D Luna Well this was really hard trying to figure out which are my favourite cards in this wonderful deck. Have narrowed it down to a few - Majors - the High Priestess, the Star and Justice. Then out of the Minors - 2 of Swords and 8 of Swords - which are not usually my favourite cards in any deck but love the artwork, particularly on the 8 of Swords and the fact that the swords are not stuck in the ground like in many other decks. Makes me really relate to the concept of them being not physically trapping, but more intellectually or thought wise creating a barrier of some sort. I can hardly wait until October - but thinking it will be just in time for a nice Tarot Christmas present then :) CreativeFire

lunakasha	20 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by CreativeFire I can hardly wait until October - but thinking it will be just in time for a nice Tarot Christmas present then :) Or....perhaps even a nice little Halloween present instead??? :D Luna

CreativeFire	20 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Or....perhaps even a nice little Halloween present instead??? :D Luna Hi Lunakasha Unfortunately I will probably have to wait until Christmas as Halloween is not really celebrated here in Australia - has only started to catch on a little bit with kids the last few years. It was however very good timing that I was sitting at the computer yesterday looking with the Gilded Tarot web site and my husband wandered past and showed some interest - so I took the opportunity to drop a Christmas hint or three - nothing like planning ahead :D The other thing I really like about this deck is the backs! To me the backs often make or break the choice to get a new deck, which I know sounds a bit odd, but I have only ever bought one deck that I liked that had a back that I didn't like (the colour), but love the beautiful image on the back of the Gilded! CreativeFire

lunakasha	20 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by CreativeFire The other thing I really like about this deck is the backs! To me the backs often make or break the choice to get a new deck, which I know sounds a bit odd, but I have only ever bought one deck that I liked that had a back that I didn't like (the colour), but love the beautiful image on the back of the Gilded! I couldn't agree more, CreativeFire! The backs of the Gilded cards are sooooooo beautiful!!! :D They look almost three-dimensional....love the sun in the center, and all of the lovely jewels...it is so rich-looking, almost like something you might find in an old trunk in your grandmother's attic....antique in a way, yet fresh and "alive" at the same time! I might have to go out on a limb here..... And admit that this is THE most beautiful card-back I have seen so far! Of course, I haven't seen ALL of the card-backs that exist (yet) but.....for me, these would be very tough to beat! :) Luna

Black*Cat	06 Apr 2004
BUMP! Hey Guys - I'm so excited & just have to tell all the Gilded fans how wonderful it is to receive the package with the special edition in the mail. The colours are so luminous & the detail so much greater than on Ciro's website. They are just sooooo beautiful. They look very real - the water almost feels wet, the earth seems to smell like it does when you're gardening, the sky looks so big & the fire is like it's warm to touch. Thanks Ciro - & for everyone still waiting for the big release - you're going to really love it when it comes out. My current favourites are The Moon, the High Priestess, the Queen of Pentacles (love the peacock) & Strength. Must rush off & take my lion for a walk! Black*Cat

lunakasha	06 Apr 2004
Congratulations Black*Cat!!!! :D You must be soooooo excited to be holding the beautiful Gilded deck in your hands.....thank you for sharing your joyous experience with us....October seems SO far away right now! :eek: I would love to hear more about the deck, if you would like to share....maybe tell us about some of your favorite cards, or possibly sharing your new deck reading with us, as Lark did awhile back.... Thanks for posting Black*Cat....enjoy! :D :D :D :) Luna (still wishing for a Gilded birthday....:laugh: )

Thea Lynx	06 Apr 2004
Hi Black Cat, I know exactly how you feel - my deck has a special place all to itself - I agree with you about the cards you chose as favorites - and add my special favorite, the six of swords. I still haven't decided what kind of shuffle to use - it is a bit of a handful - but I am having much too much fun getting to know all my cards up close and personal. I also like to try and figure out how many of the cards Ciro used himself as a model for- in addition to the Magician, that is - always seemed to me a given that that is himself. Talented, talented man. As the High Priestess is my soul card, I am especially impressed with that card - but I would be hard pressed to pick one I didn't like. I still plan to get the regular deck when it comes out - just for comparision purposes - and of course my special deck will me for me alone - guess I'm just too selfish to share this one. Thea

lunakasha	06 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Thea Lynx I still plan to get the regular deck when it comes out - just for comparision purposes - and of course my special deck will me for me alone - guess I'm just too selfish to share this one. Don't blame you there, TheaLynx....I wouldn't want to share it either!!! Glad you are enjoying it so much! :D Luna

Asher	06 Apr 2004
But I went ahead and treated myself to this glorious deck!! I have been drooling over it at Ciro's website (not good for one's keyboard) for a long time, and finally took the plunge! And it arrived today!!!! Mine is number 59, which reduces to 14 and ultimately to 5 -- a Hierophant deck. And, as I am a teacher, the symbolism is apt! Opening the drab brown box, I lifted out an incredible woven box/basket with a metal clasp. Inside the deck was wrapped in gold foil-like paper. I first opened the certificate with the deck number, which is printed on very heavy paper, and beautiful enough to frame (think I will!) I then carefully lifted the deck from the box and opened the paper...absolutely breath-taking!!!!! The dedication card, with my name on it, was overwhelming. And the exquisite cards!!! Such vivid colors, the figures seem to be alive and inhabiting this wonderful realm. I can't begin to pick out favorites yet, but I'm sure I will soon. I, too, will purchase the deck this fall, and give copies to my Tarot buddies. Nobody's gonna touch this one but me!!!! More comments to come (I want to go back and play with the deck some more), Asher

lunakasha	06 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Asher Opening the drab brown box, I lifted out an incredible woven box/basket with a metal clasp. Inside the deck was wrapped in gold foil-like paper. I first opened the certificate with the deck number, which is printed on very heavy paper, and beautiful enough to frame (think I will!) I then carefully lifted the deck from the box and opened the paper...absolutely breath-taking!!!!! The dedication card, with my name on it, was overwhelming. And the exquisite cards!!! Such vivid colors, the figures seem to be alive and inhabiting this wonderful realm. I can't begin to pick out favorites yet, but I'm sure I will soon. Oooooooh.....that sounded so magickal, Asher....like a dream!!! Thank you for sharing the details....felt like I was there watching you open it! :D I am still hoping to have one for myself someday...but until then (and until the October release) I am enjoying hearing from those of you fortunate to have the Gilded....thanks again for sharing! :D Luna

OakDragon	06 Apr 2004
Wow, I was just over at his site refreshing my memory as to why I want this deck. Now I remember! Ha ha ha. :P I wish I could think up justification for spending $350 on a limited edition copy, but I just can't. I don't have that much extra money laying around. This may turn out to be the deck that supplants the Rohrig as my favorite, though. The images are simply breathtaking! Can't wait for the general release in October!

CreativeFire	06 Apr 2004
Thanks Black*Cat, TheaLynx and Asher for sharing your pleasure in this special edition deck!!! I am waiting impatiently until the end of the year for the general release and know that this will become on of my favourite decks (if not the one)! :D At the moment it is now the only deck on my wish list and I am determined not to buy anymore (now that I have my Thoth) - until the Gilded is released. Please do keep us updated on how you are progressing with getting to know the cards and readings with this deck. Very excited for you all and totally understand about keeping this deck for yourselves! CreativeFire

lark	06 Apr 2004
Asher, Black Cat and Thea Lynx Congratulations! Make sure you go back to Ciro's website with your deck in hand, and go through all the cards and see which ones are unique just to your deck. It's so much fun! I had 8 cards that were different in some way. Lunakasha if I ever win the lottery I'm buying you a deck...thats a promise!

lunakasha	07 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark Lunakasha if I ever win the lottery I'm buying you a deck...thats a promise! ((((((((LARK)))))))))) THANK YOU so much!!!!! That is so sweet of you.....I hope one of us wins SOON!!! :laugh: You know something? A lot of people say things like that but you can tell they don't really mean it......but I do believe you would do it Lark....and that means a lot to me. Oh and if I win the lottery before you do.....I will definitely find a way to reward your kindness.... *better go check your wishlist now!* Thanks and hugs!!! :D Luna

Thea Lynx	07 Apr 2004
Hi Asher - I'm surprised only a little to find your deck is number 59 - Mine (purchased in January) is number 45 - I bought it in honor of my 54th birthday, both numbers reducing to 9 for the Hermit. My Year in Growth of the Hermit was the year in which I finally acted on my longtime desire to seriously study tarot. There are, as my tarot teacher says, no coincidences. I guess all the boxes are different - mine is a soft yellow brocade. As for the Certificate - I DID frame it - if I'm gonna indulge in a deck like this, no point in not going all the way!!! I know there are only 200 special edition decks to be made, so the rest of you have plenty of time to get one!! It truly is worth it. Thea

Thea Lynx	07 Apr 2004
Hi Lark, I haven't had the time to go through the whole deck in comparison to the website, but I did find a very subtle difference in the High Priestess card - just happens to be my sould card! So even if there is no other difference in the entire deck, I am well satisfied Thea

lark	07 Apr 2004
My deck is number 48. I told Ciro my favorite card and soul card was the High Priestess. That is one of the cards that is different. The light on the lamp is inside the lamp not on the top of it like on the web site. The clothes colors on 7 other cards are different than on the website. I'd be curious to know what cards are different for any of you.

Black*Cat	08 Apr 2004
Hi Everyone, It's just lovely to be able to talk about this deck with people who understand how special it is and really care - there's only one other person in my home life who understands, the others just look at me as if I'm crazy!! (More Fool them!) Interestingly though it has caught hold of my 12yr old daughter's imagination, she was home on school holidays when the box arrived & helped me unpack them - so the Gilded may have brought a new soul into the Tarot fraternity. Thanks Asher & Thea, I hadn't thought about the number. Mine is 57, which comes down to 12 & then 3 - an Empress deck. How lovely, it's a very beautiful card and a great way for me to be paying her more attention in my life. Thea your yellow brocade box sounds georgeous. Mine sounds the same as Asher's - a rectanglular wooden box with pressed metal inserts & a domed lid. At the moment I've lined it with a silk scarf to cushion the cards, but once I've worked out how I will make a padded silk permanent lining. Back with more soon, Black*Cat

Black*Cat	08 Apr 2004
Hi Lark & Thea, Isn't it great fun going through the deck & looking for the differences? I think I must be about to wear out Ciro's website!! I've found 5 so far: My High Priestess also has the light inside the lamp rather than on the top My Temperance has flames coming out of her gold cup (the higher one) My Hanging Man is wearing green jacket & boots with purple leggings The lady in my Nine of Pentacles has a green dress The stained glass window in the Five of Pentacles has pinky/purple panels around the outside instead of blue. I would love to hear about the differences in your decks. Black*Cat

lark	08 Apr 2004
Hi Black* Cat, My deck came in a dark green, cream, black, and bugundy rose tapestry fabric box with a black fringed tassle to use to open it and black braiding around the bottom and top. The lid is domed and it's lined in black silk. 48 brakes down to 12 Hangman and 1+2=3 Empress. Besides my High Priestess being different~light inside not outside of lamp 3 of Wands~ has a blue coat with pink medallions/ instead of green. Fool~ has a purple hat not blue/pink coat not red/purple shoes not blue/purple and yellow checked pants not blue checked Chariot~dressed in pink magenta with a magenta scarf/ not violet Empress~ blue dress /not green Emperor~teal and rose clothes/ instead of red and blue Temperance~ green dress/ instead of orange / flames coming out of cup on the top Hangman~Teal shirt not red/eggplant pants not green/ teal shoes not red World~ teal leotard/ instead of purple 9 of Wands~ one bug on the leaves on the left/ instead of none 4 of Swords~four chains hanging in the back/ instead of none

Centaur	08 Apr 2004
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! I am so JEALOUS I could scream. :) LOL.

lark	08 Apr 2004
There, there now Centaur. I promise if I win the lottery I'll have Ciro send you a deck too!

lunakasha	08 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark There, there now Centaur. I promise if I win the lottery I'll have Ciro send you a deck too! WOW Lark....you are VERY generous indeed.....TWO special edition decks???? Very nice of you..... :D :D :D Feel better now C??? :laugh: :) Luna (hoping for a miracle....) :P

Asher	08 Apr 2004
I have found 8 differences so far...these old eyes are not as sharp as they once were! HP - the green glow is inside the globe near the HP's head, instead of on the rim Chariot - her dress and silks have more red than blue in the purple Hanged Man - green tunic, boots, belt & purple tights, instead of burgundy (?) tunic, boots, gren tights & yellow belt Temperance - flames coming out of the cup on the right 9 of Wands - insect in the leaves in lower left hand corner 4 of Swords - 2 chains hanging behind the banner w/the 3 swords King of Swords - robe has more red than blue in the purple 9 of Pentacles - purple dress instead of blue The jury's still out on 1 or 2 color changes; these could simply be variations in resolution between the web images and the actual deck. Interesting to hear about the box variations , too. Mine is brown wood, woven, octagaonal in shape. It has metal hinges, and a metal clasp on the front. On the sides are 2 woven handles, and there is a ribbon inside to keep the lid from falling backwards. It is not lined, although I am trying to figure out how I might line it to keep the deck from sliding. (Any help/ideas would be greatly appreciated) Also, how are you all shuffling this thick deck? I'm almost afraid to... So far, I've only handled it gingerly, looking at one card after another. Asher

Thea Lynx	08 Apr 2004
Wow, so many changes, My High Pirestess has the same light within the globe, not outside or on top. 3 Wands - red cloak Fool - green hat & shoes, red coat, green/yellow checked leggings & sleeves Chariot - violet dress, left side of scarf is more violet, right side is lavender Temperance - flames coming out of the cup, purple dress Hanged Man - Red jacket & boots, green leggings 9 Pentacles - purple dress Emperor, robes are dark rose/purple and blue 9 Wands - I have the insect in the lower left corner 4 Swords - also has two chains behing the banner Kind Swords - purple sleeves & leggings, violet robe And I haven't even compared to Ciro's site yet!!! I've been waiting until I have the time to give it a thorough going over By the way - does anyone else have a 9/10 of Cups - if you do, you'll know what I mean - mine is framed!!!! Thea Lynx

lark	08 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Thea Lynx By the way - does anyone else have a 9/10 of Cups - if you do, you'll know what I mean - mine is framed!!!! Thea Lynx Me too Thea Lynx... wink... wink.. ;) ;) Mine is in the vault so my great grandchildren can sell it on Ebay for a couple of cool million!

Black*Cat	09 Apr 2004
Thanks Lark, I would have missed the bug on 9 Wands & the chains on 4 Swords. I still can't find any differences in Cups - anyone found any?? My card colours are often quite different to the website, but I think it's my computer - the blue on the cards is a greener/blue while the website is a purple/blue, is this true for anyone else? I'm also enjoying hearing about the different boxes - Ciro has gone to great trouble to make each deck as individual as possible, this edition is truely *special*. Black*Cat

Thea Lynx	10 Apr 2004
Tee Hee, Lark I know just what you mean!! That's why I had it framed. I don't know if you've heard the story of how my deck was almost ruined - Fedex left it on my front porch here in Maine in THE coldest day of the year!! I had a frozen brick at first. As the deck thawed and the cards could separate, I found several that had raised ragged dimples on them - I wanted to die or kill Fedex - but in time, the blemishes disappeared on all but two cards - the five and six of Swords. When I asked Ciro what I could do to either fix the ruined cards or order new ones, he graciously replaced them both!!!! Needless to say, I am very grateful and relieved to have a perfect deck. So my betassled pale yellow brocade box with deck inside sits on a special shelf - i take it down from time to time to just look through and get to know the cards. I want to be really familiar with them before I use them for my daily spreads - I have a feeling, they are going to sing!! Thea Lynx.

lunakasha	10 Apr 2004
Thea: What a NIGHTMARE!!!! You must have been livid!!!! Not only is FedEx NOT supposed to leave packages on the porch, but....what if someone had stolen it???? I don't imagine the delivery guy had any *clue* as to the value of your package, did he???? Wow..... I am so glad things turned out well in the end...very good of Ciro to replace the damaged cards! :) Luna

lunakasha	10 Apr 2004
I have been thinking about something that we have discussed here before...whether or not one could justify spending a significant amount of money on this deck, and how "many" people, especially non-Tarot people ;) might question one's sanity in spending so much on a "deck of cards". Well, I guess that all depends on what you consider to be a "deck of cards" and what you consider "art". People spend hundreds--even THOUSANDS--of dollars on artwork, everything from paintings to sculptures to some pretty crazy-looking pieces of "abstract" art....so where do you draw the line, really??? The idea of what is or is not considered art is very much a subjective determination. But I think that if you consider the time, creative energy and talent that went into Ciro's deck of cards and consider the fact that what one is purchasing really amounts to 78 individual works of art....well, then I guess it seems like a pretty good deal! Especially since this particular piece is something you can actually interact with and enjoy....instead of just hanging it on the wall to collect dust! Just something I wanted to throw out there....realizing of course that many of us cannot afford to spend huge amounts of money on paintings OR tarot decks. But, given a chunk of money and the choice between something to hang on the wall or some lovely cards to shuffle and spread and play with....I think I could easily make a case for choosing the cards!!! :D Luna

Asher	10 Apr 2004
Unfortunately, I also had a bad experience with FedEx delivering my Gilded. I asked that the package be left at my apartment complex office, in the event I was not home. On Saturday night, around 7:00 pm, FedEx came, saw the office was closed (duh!) and LEFT without coming to my apartment...and I was home! A few quasi-hysterical phone calls later I had assurances that the delivery person would, in fact, come to my home at whatever time I chose. BUT, FedEx does not deliver on Sunday or Monday!!! Tho, to their credit, the delivery person came to my home at the appointed hour. (He did seem a bit nervous, as if I might bite his head off...smile. He must have been warned that a crazy man _really_ wanted his package!) But to leave the package on someone's porch is inexcusable, Thea...glad it all worked out for you. Asher

OakDragon	11 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha I have been thinking about something that we have discussed here before...whether or not one could justify spending a significant amount of money on this deck, and how "many" people, especially non-Tarot people ;) might question one's sanity in spending so much on a "deck of cards". Well, I guess that all depends on what you consider to be a "deck of cards" and what you consider "art". People spend hundreds--even THOUSANDS--of dollars on artwork, everything from paintings to sculptures to some pretty crazy-looking pieces of "abstract" art....so where do you draw the line, really??? The idea of what is or is not considered art is very much a subjective determination. But I think that if you consider the time, creative energy and talent that went into Ciro's deck of cards and consider the fact that what one is purchasing really amounts to 78 individual works of art....well, then I guess it seems like a pretty good deal! Especially since this particular piece is something you can actually interact with and enjoy....instead of just hanging it on the wall to collect dust! Just something I wanted to throw out there....realizing of course that many of us cannot afford to spend huge amounts of money on paintings OR tarot decks. But, given a chunk of money and the choice between something to hang on the wall or some lovely cards to shuffle and spread and play with....I think I could easily make a case for choosing the cards!!! :D Luna Oh, wow, now you've done it luna! ;) I'm that much closer to buying the limited edition! Ohhhhhh

lunakasha	11 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon Oh, wow, now you've done it luna! ;) I'm that much closer to buying the limited edition! Ohhhhhh Hehehehe......}) me too OakDragon.....and I'm talking complete INSANITY....I am ready to sell most of what I own just for the Gilded....and even then, I might be a few dollars short! :P Meanwhile...we can dream! :D Luna

OakDragon	12 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Hehehehe......}) me too OakDragon.....and I'm talking complete INSANITY....I am ready to sell most of what I own just for the Gilded....and even then, I might be a few dollars short! :P Meanwhile...we can dream! :D Luna Dreaming's for wussies! ;) I just decided to get it, and want to order it as soon as I can, before he runs out. I'm not sure what to put on the 79th card. I'd like to have a photograph put on it. I wonder if he'll do that. I guess I'll go email him and ask him.

lunakasha	12 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon I just decided to get it, and want to order it as soon as I can, before he runs out. EEEEEEEK!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: The thought of Ciro running out of decks before I order mine...... THANKS for the panic attack, OakDragon....LOL!!! :P Seriously....I hope you get yours soon...let me know when you do order it and what you've decided for the personalized card! :) Luna

babyd	13 Apr 2004
Hi All I am lucky enought to have the best husband in the world, he bought me this wonderful deck for Christmas ! Easily the very best present ever ! And the most personal and meaningful, my 79th card is wonderful, it has a fabulous verse on it that my husband requested, very romantic and brought me to tears when I read it, so personal and loving. My deck came in a fabulous wooden chest, with metal handle and metal sliding clasp on the front, it is lined in velvet and had the usual golden leaf paper wrapping the deck. Mine is number 37, not sure how to break that one down?? Would it be a 10 wheel of fortune or a 1 Magician, or both?? Still have to go through the whole deck to see the changes in mine. To anyone considering this deck, don't hesitate ! It is THE most amazing deck I have ever seen. The quality is wonderful, the colours incredible and the feel of this deck is very spiritual. This is my favourite deck of all time, i really can't see anything ever topping this one, unless Ciro designs another one !! I will be ordering a couple on the llewellyn version when its released so that I can use it each day without spoiliing my limited edition deck. I honestly think this is one deck that will go down in history, like the RW or thoth decks. it really is that amazing. hugs babyd

Black*Cat	13 Apr 2004
Hi Babyd, It's a wonderful deck - you are so lucky to have received it as a gift. When you get the time do go through your deck & Ciro's website - it's a lot of fun & you'll find quite a few differences. Cheers, Black*Cat

OakDragon	13 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha EEEEEEEK!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: The thought of Ciro running out of decks before I order mine...... THANKS for the panic attack, OakDragon....LOL!!! :P Seriously....I hope you get yours soon...let me know when you do order it and what you've decided for the personalized card! :) Luna I just ordered my Gilded today! I'll let you know when I find out what the edition number is. There's probably plenty of time.

lunakasha	13 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon I just ordered my Gilded today! I'll let you know when I find out what the edition number is. There's probably plenty of time. Thanks OakDragon and congratulations!!! I can't wait to hear all about it when you have it in your hands... :D Luna (living vicariously through posters to this thread) :D

babyd	14 Apr 2004
Does anyone know which deck mine would be? No 37, is it a Magician deck or a Wheel of Fortune deck? Not sure, as I am none to great on numerology, okay with numbers that reduce below 10 but not too sure how to hanlde one that reduces to a 10 and a 1. babyd

lunakasha	15 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by babyd Does anyone know which deck mine would be? No 37, is it a Magician deck or a Wheel of Fortune deck? Not sure, as I am none to great on numerology, okay with numbers that reduce below 10 but not too sure how to hanlde one that reduces to a 10 and a 1. babyd I think in this case you could associate it with either 1 (Magician) or 10 (Wheel of Fortune)....or both!!!! Then again, I am no expert on numerology...second opinion, anyone??? ;) :) Luna

lunakasha	15 Apr 2004
Just wanted to let Gilded fans know.... I have heard from a reliable source that the Gilded companion book being published by Llewellyn has officially gone to press....and that as of right now, the October release date is right on schedule....:D Which essentially means that we are looking at less than six months before the Llewellyn edition will be available!!! Luna :D :D :D

CreativeFire	15 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Just wanted to let Gilded fans know.... I have heard from a reliable source that the Gilded companion book being published by Llewellyn has officially gone to press....and that as of right now, the October release date is right on schedule....:D Which essentially means that we are looking at less than six months before the Llewellyn edition will be available!!! Luna :D :D :D That is excellent news, Lunakasha, thanks for letting us all know that there is only 6 months to go! We will have to think about getting a study group going once everyone gets their Gilded decks :D CreativeFire

lunakasha	15 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by CreativeFire That is excellent news, Lunakasha, thanks for letting us all know that there is only 6 months to go! We will have to think about getting a study group going once everyone gets their Gilded decks :D CreativeFire ABSOLUTELY!!! I can hardly wait....six months isn't really that long, right??? :D Luna

Asher	16 Apr 2004
Nope, October will be here before we realize it -- and since it's my birthday month, I can get the Gilded as a present!!! I can't wait for it to be published, so I can use it! I have not even dared to try and shuffle my deck. It has a place of honor on my bookshelf in its gorgeous box, and I _carefully_ look through it almost every day. Everybody in my Tarot Circle wants to see it, but I have only shared it with my co-facilitator (who is going to order one herself), but I can't bring myself to take it out of the house. And I certainly don't want other people to handle it--it's my _own, personal_ deck!! (settle down, it's ok, no one's going to touch it if you don't want them to) Whew...anyway, my point is that I want to _use_ this deck and look forward to October. Asher

lunakasha	16 Apr 2004
Hey Asher! Wow....you have a lot more self-discipline than I do.... I would not be able to keep my hands off those cards....LOL :laugh: BUT I would be very careful about WHO ELSE gets to touch them....selfish of me but...OH WELL!!! I completely understand your wanting to be very careful with them and not damage them....have you tried a "gentle shuffle"??? I think lark mentioned a shuffling method that allows her to shuffle them very gently.... Anyway, it will definitely be nice when the Llewellyn version comes out, so you can REALLY have some fun with them!!! :D :) Luna

Black*Cat	16 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Asher [ interesting to hear about the box variations , too. mine is brown wood, woven, octagaonal in shape. it has metal hinges, and a metal clasp on the front. on the sides are 2 woven handles, and there is a ribbon inside to keep the lid from falling backwards. it is not lined, although i am trying to figure out how i might line it to keep the deck from sliding. (any help/ideas would be greatly appreciated) asher [/b] Asher, I've found some instructions for lining boxes with different fabrics, if you'd like a copy pm me & i'll pass them on - it's a bit long to post here. Black*Cat

OakDragon	19 Apr 2004
I just got word that my Gilded special edition will probably ship this week! That was FAST. I just ordered it about 10 days ago. :D I can't wait!!! :P

lunakasha	19 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon I just got word that my Gilded special edition will probably ship this week! That was FAST. I just ordered it about 10 days ago. :D I can't wait!!! :P Ooooh OakDragon.....you must be SOOOO excited!!! :D It will be like Christmas in April for you......:P Please let us know when it arrives! :D :) Luna }) (not jealous.....really!)

Danae	22 Apr 2004
Those of you that got your decks already are so lucky! I want the special edition sooooooo bad!! I hate to wait for things. I went to the website and stared at the cards for a long time. Considered selling my soul, but decided that I would probably still be short a few bucks. :mad: So, sadly, I must wait until it comes out through Llewellyn. Until then I will just stare at the pictures and wish. :D Danae

OakDragon	22 Apr 2004
My Gilded deck is on its way already! :D The only drawback is that it'll probably get here after I'm on my way to Florida :( I'll have to ask my father (whom I'm living with at the moment) to keep it for me and send it or bring it out somehow.

smokey	25 Apr 2004
I GOT IT!!! I'll be 48 yrs old,Tues.;April 27th & to make my up-coming "half- century" mark softer; I arrive back from t/store 8:00pm last nite to find a "cat-eating-canary-grin" on my soul-mate,Bill's face; holding a 'U.P.S'. box & asking me if I wanted my'B.D.' gift now or later,and he looked happier than me!!! Well...DUH!!! What kinda' Question Is That?!? Of course, I hadta' have it then & Had No Idea my Bill & Ciro had been "plotting" for the past 2 wks. ,so I'd get them in time!It's #143;& I alarmed t/apt. neighborhood screaming w/delight; but don't understand what Differences I am supposed (if any)to be looking for...???HELP!!! Confused!!!& IS there really & truly gonna' be a book to go w/deck & if so when? I have done nothing but DROOL 'oer t/limited edition ONLY & truly had no idea I would be gettin' my very own;so any & all feedback out there is really appreciated! One BIGGIE B-FORE-I-4- GET... How many out there actually USE theirs & who has theirs ONLY for "collection"??? Personally, I feel this is gonna' be up there for use along w/the Fantastical; Spiral;& my poor neglected Cosmic Tribe since The Faeries' Oracle came & "took-over"haha! A "Hearty Texas THANX-W/LUV" to my beloved Bill and the master wizard -artisian,Ciro(I just Know it's gotta'be you on the Magician!)

cirom	25 Apr 2004
but don't understand what Differences I am supposed (if any)to be looking for...???HELP!!! Ciro(I just Know it's gotta'be you on the Magician!) [/b][/quote] Happy Birthday Smokey, I'm glad the package got there on time. Regarding the differences that other owners of these special editions have refered to, these are minor modification such as changes to the colour of costumes etc on various cards. These changes vary in both color and quanitity from deck to deck and have no significance beyond ensuring that everyone has a truly one of a kind deck, in addition to their personalized 79th card. Regarding the Magician....hmmmm!!

CreativeFire	25 Apr 2004
What a wonderful, exciting birthday surprise for you, Smokey!!! :) Congratulations on your new deck - Enjoy! Happy Birthday for the 27th. :) CreativeFire

lunakasha	25 Apr 2004
Congratulations and Happy Birthday, smokey!!! :D I am still waiting for the Tarot Fairy to bring mine.....:eek: Maybe next year???? ;) At least I know I can buy the Llewellyn deck for my 36 1/2 in October!!!! :D }) Luna

smokey	26 Apr 2004
Thank You & Blessings', Ciro, CreativeFire & lunakasha

Pook	26 Apr 2004
This thread has made me absolutely with envy! I visit Ciro's site about every day and drool and now everyone talking about their special edition decks and me sitting here spending the money that was supposed to go to mine and my stupid broken car! Well, miracles happen and poor people hit the lottery every day, right? Could everyone pray for that miracle for me? As long I won enough, I could probably afford a few extra decks for my supporters..*wink, wink*

lunakasha	26 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by MoonDreameR This thread has made me absolutely with envy! I visit Ciro's site about every day and drool and now everyone talking about their special edition decks and me sitting here spending the money that was supposed to go to mine and my stupid broken car! Well, miracles happen and poor people hit the lottery every day, right? Could everyone pray for that miracle for me? As long I won enough, I could probably afford a few extra decks for my supporters..*wink, wink* YES MoonDreameR.....count me in!!! :D lark and I have already had this discussion.....about winning the lottery in hopes of buying the Gilded!!! So.....if I win, you will be among those who will be gifted.....do we have a deal??? :D Until then.....we must remain greenish....}) :) Luna

smokey	27 Apr 2004
[quote]Originally posted by lunakasha [I am still waiting for the Tarot Fairy to bring mine.....:eek: Greetings & Best Wishes, lunakasha MY Tarot Fae told Me that Your Tarot Fairy told Them that they (your li'l darlins')have definitilely took heed your request & if you listen carefully, you can hear the "buzz-'o-the-wisps'-'o-wings!!!" All my Best,

lunakasha	27 Apr 2004
Thanks smokey! :D I will indeed pay closer attention..... And by the way....Happy Birthday!!! :D Have fun with your lovely new Gilded cards!!!! :D Luna

Namaste	29 Apr 2004
I, too, am positively green with envy... }) If you think the special edition is out of your reach, dear friends south of the border, remember us poor Canadians whose dollar is suffering. :laugh: What can we do, but wait and pray for this September to roll around and for the Gilded to make its much anticipated, 'popular' appearance? *sigh* Enjoy your beautiful special editions! I do mean it... honestly... :D

Centaur	29 Apr 2004
Well, it will soon be May... only another five months to wait!!! Argh. :(

Pook	29 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Namaste What can we do, but wait and pray for this September to roll around and for the Gilded to make its much anticipated, 'popular' appearance? *sigh* September? I keep hearing October! Is it going to be realeased earlier in Canada? Do I need to plan a day trip north of the border? Someone tell me what is going on, PLEASE!!

tmgrl2	29 Apr 2004
I just discovered the Gilded in another thread...if you had $500?.. It is absolutely gorgeous...I don't have lots of decks...and probably won't...I have ...eleven...but so far, my favorites are Camoin-Jodo TdM and the Radiant Rider Waite...with Sacred Circle running close... I had to order the Limited Edition Gilded..another "retirement" treat....Ciro M. responded within hours, so I guess their are more to be made...he said "he is making them as we e-mail each other." Can't wait...Wish I could buy them for everyone who wants one...and hope those that do have their wishes fulfilled... terri

tmgrl2	29 Apr 2004
TY all for your info on the deck..I just e-mailed CM to make sure the package is rain-proof as Fed-ex tends to drop and run here, too....an a rainy day can do damage... Are you all finding differences in your decks or just differences from colors posted on CM's website? I asked him in an e-mail re my delivery... terri

CreativeFire	29 Apr 2004
Hi terri How exciting for you and what a wonderful deck to "treat" yourself with. You deserve it! :) You will have to let us all know once you receive it! I hate wishing time away, but roll on October for the general release! CreativeFire

tmgrl2	29 Apr 2004
Ty CreativeFire... I just got an e-mail from Ciro M. re my shipping...asked for shipment to Post Office so Fed Ex doesn't drop and run...also asked him if differences in cards in Limited Edition GT are deliberate....it seems so...some wondered if the colors on the website were simply different: CM replied: Quote: The differences are deliberate, they are simply a random selection of cards where I've made minor modifications to the colour of a costume here and there. It's just another way of ensuring that each deck is truly one of a kind How cool is this! Can't wait to get them...and glad there will be a contest here at AT...so others might get that one! I promise I won't enter! terri

cirom	29 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by MoonDreameR September? I keep hearing October! Is it going to be realeased earlier in Canada? Do I need to plan a day trip north of the border ? Someone tell me what is going on, PLEASE!! I spoke with Barbara Moore at Llewellyn a couple of days ago, she assures me its September. All my communications with other members of the production and editing team there seems to indicate that they are on schedule. Regarding the various colour changes. These are random both in quanitity and in which particular cards, from deck to deck not merely compared to the reference on my web site. The idea being that everyone of you owners of a special edition own a truly unique deck even if its by one card (other than your personalized 79th card of course).

tmgrl2	29 Apr 2004
TY, CM...can't wait for the book, too. terri

lunakasha	29 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by tmgrl2 How cool is this! Can't wait to get them...and glad there will be a contest here at AT...so others might get that one! I promise I won't enter! CONGRATULATIONS tmgrl.....you definitely deserve to treat yourself, girl! :D Now....I think the contest you are referring to has already been completed....with our own lovely lark emerging as the winner!!! :P Unless there will be ANOTHER contest that I had not heard about???? Oooooooh.....that sounds promising.....Ciro???? :D Luna (trying to remove the greenish tint from her skin....:D)

Centaur	30 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom I spoke with Barbara Moore at Llewellyn a couple of days ago, she assures me its September. The financially challenged only have four months to wait then! :)

tmgrl2	30 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha CONGRATULATIONS tmgrl.....you definitely deserve to treat yourself, girl! :D Now....I think the contest you are referring to has already been completed....with our own lovely lark emerging as the winner!!! :P Unless there will be ANOTHER contest that I had not heard about???? Oooooooh.....that sounds promising.....Ciro???? :D Luna (trying to remove the greenish tint from her skin....:D) LOL...I probably entered....lost and forgot it! or...it happened before I joined Aeclectic...Glad someone got such a beautiful deck...terri

Namaste	30 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by tmgrl2 Wish I could buy them for everyone who wants one...and hope those that do have their wishes fulfilled... Thanks, Terri. :) I wish I could, too, but I am happy that the 'mass' deck will be arriving in September... Then we can join together, all who have the deck, in whatever edition, and perhaps embark on a leisurely journey of discovery and exploration with it? *Please, all say, "Yes!"* :D I'm sooooooooooo looking forward to these beautiful cards. I feel, somehow, that it is a blessed deck, filled with light...

Namaste	30 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur The financially challenged only have four months to wait then! :) My heart rejoices, Centaur, and I am glad to see that I am not alone in the waiting. :)

tmgrl2	30 Apr 2004
Yes! Yes! A leisurely journey, Namaste...sounds wonderful...I think I'm going to do a poll...I wonder how many people are not buying the Gilded Tarot because of the cost...or other reasons...I'm off... joyce (it's a long story...the Tarot Police may be after me for a long post on another thread...so I am Joyce for a few minutes) t2

smokey	06 May 2004
Congrats,Teri... on your new deck;here's wishing you @ least half as much fun w/yours as I've had w/mine;as I know you will!(& all you other Gilded enthusiasts out there;September ain't that long...I know... I know...EASY for me ta' say;right?!?) Now;regarding the upcoming book...WHO wrote it??? Any &/all ino. feedback about this book Much Appreciated, PLEEZ! THANX!!! P.S. (hang in there,lunakasha & pm me if needed when the "Gilded-Jones"- bug nips! how clearly I remember those bites!!!)

tmgrl2	06 May 2004
Still waiting for the GT...with gread anticipation....I have a feeling it will be one of my main reading decks...along with the Camoin-Jodo TdM cheers, all terri

cirom	06 May 2004
[quote]Originally posted by smokey [b]Congrats,Teri... Now;regarding the upcoming book...WHO wrote it??? Any &/all ino. feedback about this book Much Appreciated, PLEEZ! THANX!!! Hi Smokey, I'm glad to hear you're enjoying your special edition GT. The upcoming companion book was written by Barbara Moore, who heads the adquisitions division at Llewellyn. I provided artists notes, background information and various illustrations from the deck. Hi tmgrl2 Your deck is printed, I'm just waiting to recieve it back from the supplier I use for the satin laminate, then its trimming and ready to go, hopefully by the end of the week.

OakDragon	06 May 2004
:D My father's forwarding my deck to me today from San Diego (via overnight shipping). I hope to have it in my hands tomorrow! I can't wait!

lunakasha	06 May 2004
OOOOOH OakDragon!!!! How will you be able to sleep tonight??? :D LOL I am anxious to hear all of the details when you get it.....good for you!!! Hope your relocation is going well, BTW.... :) Luna

tmgrl2	06 May 2004
[quote]Originally posted by cirom [b] Quote: Originally posted by smokey Congrats,Teri... Now;regarding the upcoming book...WHO wrote it??? Any &/all ino. feedback about this book Much Appreciated, PLEEZ! THANX!!! Hi tmgrl2 Your deck is printed, I'm just waiting to recieve it back from the supplier I use for the satin laminate, then its trimming and ready to go, hopefully by the end of the week. Thank you Ciro....I look forward to the book...Is it coming out at same time as the mass-produced deck? Are you taking pre-orders...? terri I can't wait...I check my PO Box every day...so now I know it will be a bit....

OakDragon	06 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha OOOOOH OakDragon!!!! How will you be able to sleep tonight??? :D LOL I am anxious to hear all of the details when you get it.....good for you!!! Hope your relocation is going well, BTW.... :) Luna It's going well, thanks! Wiser (slightly) heads prevailed (briefly) and I decided to save $30 on the extra shipping, so it'll come on Monday.

cirom	06 May 2004
[quote]Originally posted by tmgrl2 [b]Thank you Ciro....I look forward to the book...Is it coming out at same time as the mass-produced deck? Are you taking pre-orders...? The book is a companion book that will be sold along with the deck. As far as pre-orders, I'm afraid I can't help you there, you'll have to contact Llewellyn.

tmgrl2	06 May 2004
Will do, Ciro, since I will probably order another deck along with the book. Don't know if I'll read with the LE...I probably will...It is too special to just look at...I'm sure I need to handle it and use it and love it... terri

Namaste	07 May 2004
Ciro, I presume the mass-market deck with be sold with the book as a set? :)

OakDragon	10 May 2004
I just got my gilded deck!!! :D It came in a rectangular wooden box with a hinged pyramidal lid and a brass latch and handle. The panels of the box are overlaid with leather embossed with a floral pattern. The deck came wrapped in white tissue paper with a gold star pattern on it, and was tied with gold curling ribbon. The 79th card had my name and a picture of me when I was 4 years old, sitting in my back yard, holding a toy guitar. The original was black and white and he gave it a nice blue cast. I don't really believe in numerology, but I may have to start. Get this: my deck is #144 of 200. 144 is 12 squared (squared numbers are interesting, aren't they?) and 12 is my favorite number. Also, the digits of 144 add up to 9 and 9 is the number of the Hermit card, which I identify most with. The Hermit also is paired up with Virgo, which is my sign. I'm off to check which cards in my deck are altered and I'll post more after I find out which.

lunakasha	10 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon I just got my gilded deck!!! YAY OakDragon!!!!! :D That is excellent news....it has been such a long wait for you!!! Glad you are enjoying them, and looking forward to hearing more when you get a chance..... Hey, if you do a new-deck reading with them, would you mind posting it here??? I would love to see what they have to say!!! Enjoy! :D :) Luna

tmgrl2	10 May 2004
Happy for you OakDragon....I am still waiting... terri....

OakDragon	10 May 2004
I'll be happy to post the first reading for you, Lunakasha. Okay, here are the differences... I think... some of them I'm not quite certain on because my deck is darker (less washed out) than the one online. 1. The Fool is dressed in a pink and purplish-blue outfit instead of pink and turquoise. 2. The bright star on the High Priestess card is behind the glass case on the pillar, instead of above it. 3. The Chariot driver's dress is magenta instead of purple (and the veil on the right is magenta). 4. The Hanged Man is wearing a blue-green tunic and boots and purple tights instead of a red tunic and boots and green tights. 5. Temperance's dress is magenta instead of orange. 6. The woman on the World has a turquoise unitard instead of a purple one. 7. The woman on the 6 of swords is wearing a magenta robe instead of a blue one. 8. There's a brown beetle on the leaves in the foreground of the 9 of wands. 9. The robe on the man in the 4 of pentacles is dark green instead of purple. 10. The dress on the woman in the 9 of pentacles is magenta instead of blue. That's all I can see... Now I'm off to do a reading! :D

lunakasha	10 May 2004
Hey terri!!!! Hope you get yours soon!!! :D I would also love to hear all of the details about your introduction to the lovely Gilded..... :D Luna

lunakasha	10 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon I'll be happy to post the first reading for you, Lunakasha. GREAT....thanks!!! :P Wow.....there were a lot of changes in your deck....very cool!!! Glad you are enjoying them.... :D Luna

tmgrl2	10 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Hey terri!!!! Hope you get yours soon!!! :D I would also love to hear all of the details about your introduction to the lovely Gilded..... :D Luna Will do...I guess the posts are about how the elements/colors/details are different from the cards on the website...It may be awhile...mine is in progress.. terri

lunakasha	11 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon I'll be happy to post the first reading for you, Lunakasha. Hey Oakie!!! Have you had a chance to do that reading yet??? :D Sorry....patience is not one of my better qualities! ;) Whenever you get the time, really.....(soon)...LOL!!! :) Luna

tmgrl2	11 May 2004
TADA! It arrived today...in a wooden/woven chest with beautifully tooled metal on the top...at first, I said, The Gilded Tarot...then I opened it and thought someone had sent me THREE decks....It is so THICK....stacked up, all the cards are about the total thickness of three mass-produced decks.... I want to examine them at my leisure...and won't have any till this weekend, probably....then will try to check and post differences....but my deck is #147 (1+4+7+12....1+2 =3) Twelve: the Hanging Man Three: My number...born Novemer 3 They are so lovely.....My 79th card: "May the Tarot act as a spiritual guide as you complete your journey in this life." for I am in the later years of my life....so I want to medidate on this as I read and work with Tarot....I need to remember "spiritual" and "intuition" ..... More later... terri

lunakasha	11 May 2004
Excellent terri!!!! I am soooooo happy for you.....enjoy them! :D And please do keep us posted as you begin to explore your new spiritual guide..... :) Luna

tmgrl2	11 May 2004
ty, I will luna....the box of GT is sitting next to my computer.... my husband is sitting upstairs waiting for me... Gilded Tarot? Husband? Gilded Tarot? Husband? Husband wins...it's a work night, so I shall keep the lid closed and locked....terri

OakDragon	11 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Hey Oakie!!! Have you had a chance to do that reading yet??? :D Sorry....patience is not one of my better qualities! ;) Whenever you get the time, really.....(soon)...LOL!!! :) Luna Unfortunately I haven't... I've been nervously trying to decide how to mix them. I know they won't shuffle well. I'll buckle down to it tonight... unfortunately, I don't have Net access at my new place. I have to either come to Starbucks to post (where I am now, and my deck's at home) or post from work (not an option for this). So, I'll do the reading tonight and post it tomorrow night... Look for it in the Your Readings forum! I know how you feel, though.... I'm not patient about this sort of thing, either! :D

lunakasha	11 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon I know how you feel, though.... I'm not patient about this sort of thing, either! :D Hey Oakie!!! I was just kidding, really.....take your time, it will be great!!! :D Besides, you don't want to take a chance of spilling Starbucks coffee all over the precioussss Gilded, do you??? Good luck with it.....sounds like it is very tricky to shuffle! :D Luna

OakDragon	11 May 2004
Another quick thought... I'd like to get one of the mass market decks when they come out, so I can use that and put my special edition deck away for safekeeping... only one small problem. I won't be able to use my 79th card in a reading. If CM wanted to make more money, he might try coming up with a way to allow us to order a copy of the 79th card that goes with the mass produced deck (size, thickness, materials, etc.) so we can use that in a reading. Just a thought. :D

OakDragon	11 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Hey Oakie!!! I was just kidding, really.....take your time, it will be great!!! :D Besides, you don't want to take a chance of spilling Starbucks coffee all over the precioussss Gilded, do you??? Good luck with it.....sounds like it is very tricky to shuffle! :D Luna I wouldn't try to shuffle it the old fashioned way... the cards are very thick and stiff. I'll try some sort of "smearing them all over the table" type of mixing, or whatever you want to call it. I'm sure they won't slide together too well, either, though, because of the thickness.

lunakasha	11 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon I wouldn't try to shuffle it the old fashioned way... the cards are very thick and stiff. I'll try some sort of "smearing them all over the table" type of mixing, or whatever you want to call it. I'm sure they won't slide together too well, either, though, because of the thickness. Well, in that case.....definitely DON'T do it at Starbucks!!! :laugh: PLEASE don't!!! :D :) Luna

OakDragon	11 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Well, in that case.....definitely DON'T do it at Starbucks!!! :laugh: PLEASE don't!!! :D :) Luna Heh, I had the deck with me at SB's last night, where I was looking through them while I was online to discover the differences and post them for you.

lunakasha	11 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon Heh, I had the deck with me at SB's last night, where I was looking through them while I was online to discover the differences and post them for you. Ooooooh....well, just be EXTREMELY careful then! :P Geez, I think if I had them I would be afraid to ever leave the house with them!!! But hey, it's great that you are anxious to start using them....at least until the LLewllyn edition comes out... Three more months! :D :)Luna

tmgrl2	11 May 2004
OakDragon is right...They are too thick to "shuffle." Maybe if Ciro sees these posts, he will give us some ideas....I want to use my deck but the cards are very thick...I know I will buy a "reading" deck, too.... I'm still staring at the box....waiting for some "alone" time to myself to study them. terri

tmgrl2	11 May 2004
OK...couldn't wait....I see what others see...color differences in garments in 7 cards....most of the seeming color differences are probably effect of printing...but HP ...the green glow is larger and within the circle of the case upon the pedastal instead of smaller above and without... Also, the Emperor..lower portion of my card looks orange, yellow and pink...(website somewhat different) rest were garment colors completely different from website pix; not listing the website colors...but mine are: Strength: purple dress Hanging Man (not Hanged Man) turqoise jacket, purple tights. turqouise shoes (Hanging, not Hanged...as if not going to die, or process over?) Temperance: purple dress World: blue leotard 9 Pentacles: bright green dress on figure 6 Swords: fuschia cloak/hood on figure website has differences in colors.... Cards are lovely....Umbrae, where are you when we need some new deck shuffling advice for VERY thick cards... terri

lark	11 May 2004
I've been shuffling mine like this... I make two piles and then I just gently let them fall into each other . Like a regular shuffle but without the bending of the cards. They fall in clumps but it's works well enough that I feel the cards are shuffled. It was a little awkward at first but after some practice I can do it pretty fast and it feels natural. tmgrl2 what kind of box did your's come in? OakDragon congratulations on getting your deck!

tmgrl2	12 May 2004
Thanks, Lark...that's what I was hoping to do...wonder how the picture surface will hold up in the long run? At least I took a look through the entire deck last night.... terri

smokey	12 May 2004
Oooh, CONGRATS!!! Teri & OakDragon on yall's new GT's!!!; am soo happy for you!!! THANX Ciro -4-replying-2-my-?-re:book's author.

Namaste	17 May 2004
A short update for the financially challenged... :) I received, today, Llewellyn's new Fall catalogue, and, as anticipated, it is right there on page 4: North American Release September 2004 of The Gilded Tarot! I'm sure you will agree that this is grrrrrrrrreat news! :)

Centaur	17 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Namaste A short update for the financially challenged... :) I received, today, Llewellyn's new Fall catalogue, and, as anticipated, it is right there on page 4: North American Release September 2004 of The Gilded Tarot! I'm sure you will agree that this is grrrrrrrrreat news! :) Thanks for sharing that Namaste. I am hoping that it might be released in Europe even earlier. Hehehehe. })

lunakasha	17 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur Thanks for sharing that Namaste. I am hoping that it might be released in Europe even earlier. Hehehehe. }) OOOOOH them's fightin words, Centaur!!! :D }) :D Luna

Centaur	17 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha OOOOOH them's fightin words, Centaur!!! :D }) Haha. Luna, you know me too well! })

CreativeFire	17 May 2004
Heh - don't forget down under here in Australia! You never know our luck it might get released down here first - you know furtherest port they might ship it first ;) LOL }) One can dream! Thankyou Namaste for the update. I visited my local tarot shop on the weekend and have asked them to put in an early order for me and the owner said that she was due a new catalogue and hopefully it should be in the next one that she gets from Llewellyn and she will then place my order :D Cheers CreativeFire

tmgrl2	17 May 2004
Hooray! I'll probably order it with the book...and use to read... terri

lark	20 May 2004
Cirom, just want to say how much I love mine and you'ld have to wrestle them out of my cold dead hands. Mine are beautifully crafted and I'm very happy with them. And hey everybody you can preorder the Gilded at Tarot Garden now. YA!

babyd	20 May 2004
Ciro is my Hero !! He has always been so helpful and was so patient with my many emails about his wonderful deck. He sent mine and I am so happy with it, the best deck I have ever seen or touched, it radiates warmth and love. Ciro is very helpful and goes out of his way to do all he can for you. This person just needed to say via a private email and Ciro would have helped him too, not blast it on here for all to see, really low I think ! Don't let one baddun get you down Ciro, Your a good man and a great artist, with amazing abilities. hugs to you and thanks for your wonderful deck babyd (you know who I am Ciro !! lol) ;o)

Centaur	20 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by babyd He sent mine and I am so happy with it, the best deck I have ever seen or touched, it radiates warmth and love. Again, I am green with envy! Hehe. :)

latinmoon	20 May 2004
[quote]Originally posted by cirom [b] Quote: Originally posted by tmgrl2 That is the overall symbolism of the machines that feature on various cards (and indeed many of my general illustrations). i.e. the wheel of fortune. Who knows where the spin will fall, but behind it all there are man made parts. Is the spin completely random or can we infulence the outcome to some degree by our own efforts, style, behaviour? I don't know, but my images at least hint at the possability. Thanks Cirom, To be honest I really hadn't thought of those images in that way, thats cool. I'm planning to get the Llewellyn deck/book set as well (for every day use and keep my special edition, just for little old me). By the way Spiritwalker, Ciro replaced two of my cards which I damaged, weeks after I received the deck, and for free. I really think you've given the guy a bad rap.

tmgrl2	20 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom Now to more agreable topics. Regarding the HANGED/HANGING man. The final choice of name was actually Llewellyns, having said that you were quite observant regarding the almost reachable chain. In the companion book that will accompany the standard deck I was asked to contibuite artists notes. I raise the view point that I believe we do have a degree of control in our destiny. We are not completely tied to the fickled finger of fate. That is the overall symbolism of the machines that feature on various cards (and indeed many of my general illustrations). i.e. the wheel of fortune. Who knows where the spin will fall, but behind it all there are man made parts. Is the spin completely random or can we infulence the outcome to some degree by our own efforts, style, behaviour? I don't know, but my images at least hint at the possability. I did notice that in the Wheel of Fortune! also...I love the idea of Hanging Man...as in a period of time where one needs to take a break and "hang out" as opposed to Hermit...more meditation... Also like idea that he can set himself right again... Whenever I rode a Ferris Wheel, I always thought of all the necessary mechanical cogs and things that had to work together so the wheel could turn...I found it a bit scarey to "trust" being on a Ferris Wheel...isn't that true of Fortune in life...things out of our control...luck ...letting go... terri

Black*Cat	24 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark And hey everybody you can preorder the Gilded at Tarot Garden now. YA! lark, I couldn't find them at Tarot Garden, but you can pre-order them at Amazon for US$16.97. I was given an estimated shipping date of July 25 which sounds a little optimistic, but it does seem that things are definitely moving along now! Black*Cat

lunakasha	25 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Black*Cat I was given an estimated shipping date of July 25 which sounds a little optimistic, but it does seem that things are definitely moving along now! JULY???? WOW....that sounds very optimistic..... Hate to say this but....amazon is famous for listing premature release dates....the Golden and Enchanted Forest decks for example. But....I HOPE they got it right this time....YAY!!! :laugh::D:joke: :) Luna

Alta	25 May 2004
The Gilded is available for pre-order on tarotgarden.com. I think Jeanette has posted the suggested release date too, and it is sometime this fall. Edited to add: http://www.tarotgarden.com/boutique/preorders.html September 2004

Jewel	25 May 2004
~does the I pre-ordered it yesterday dance~

cirom	25 May 2004
For what its worth, all my communications with Llewellyn would indicate that everything is going well with the production, but even so I think Amazon's July reference is extremely optamistic. Everything I've heard suggests September.

lunakasha	25 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom For what its worth, all my communications with Llewellyn would indicate that everything is going well with the production, but even so I think Amazon's July reference is extremely optamistic. Everything I've heard suggests September. Thanks for the update Ciro! I personally don't have much faith in amazon's release dates...as much as I would LOVE to have it in July....wouldn't we all??? }) Only 3 1/2 months to wait now.....hard to believe!!! I've only been waiting for them since last November.....:eek:LOL Patience is a virtue.... :D Luna

tmgrl2	25 May 2004
Just checked out Amazon and tarotgarden....at Amazon it says "book" but doesn't specify that it includes the deck. I assume it's the deck which includes the book? tarotgarden makes it clear it is the deck with a book included... Ciro..if you see this, maybe you can clarify Amazon's ad for me...I had trouble when I ordered Hadar's TdM from Amazon.ca because it looked like they were sending me a book/paperback, but it was the Tarot Deck. terri

cirom	25 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by tmgrl2 J Ciro..if you see this, maybe you can clarify Amazon's ad for me...I had trouble when I ordered Hadar's TdM from Amazon.ca because it looked like they were sending me a book/paperback, but it was the Tarot Deck. terri To be honest Terri, I'm a little confused myself. All I know is that there is both the deck and a 130 plus page companion book contained inside the outer package. Approximate size 5.5 x 8.5 inches. Now wether the book is available seperately I'm not sure. I must admit I was suprized by the price at Amazon. But I really don't know. I think other members will have a better feel for how much of a discount is the norm for preorders. Sorry I could'nt be of more help. Maybe if you contact Llewellyn they can clarify.

tmgrl2	25 May 2004
Ciro, thanks...it probably is deck w/book at Amazon...going to pre-order since I always have a shopping cart running... terri they do have some good pre-order prices...for some things... I have had good success with them. I know others haven't..

Mimers	25 May 2004
Terri, It says by Ciro Marchetti & Barbara Moore so I would feel comfortable assuming it is both the deck and book. Also, Llewellyn does not usually sell their sets separtely. I preordered mine as well! I can't wait to see this deck. Wish I could have afforded this special edition, but oh well. I did see some samples at the Reader's Studio in NYC and I can tell it is going to be stunning! I love all the jewel like colors too. Mimi

lunakasha	25 May 2004
I just checked amazon and the release date is now showing September 2004..... The pre-order price is $16.97, which is 32% off the regular price. I am very tempted to pre-order it (and I have had pretty good luck with amazon) BUT then I am reminded of the way they dumped the pre-orders for the Golden.....and also I know of several people who pre-ordered the Gendron book, only to be told, MONTHS later: sorry, there is no separate book available. :eek: But anyway....one way or another, I will be getting a Gilded deck in the very near future!!! :D :) Luna

yve	25 May 2004
I also pre-ordered from Amazon...I had the same initial reaction as tmgl2 as I was concerned that it was classified as a book...but then my experience was that most tarot decks i've ordered from amazon were classified books and yet they were the decks...so, i'm hoping too we are getting the set, or at least the deck!

Mimers	25 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha I just checked amazon and the release date is now showing September 2004..... The pre-order price is $16.97, which is 32% off the regular price. I am very tempted to pre-order it (and I have had pretty good luck with amazon) BUT then I am reminded of the way they dumped the pre-orders for the Golden.....and also I know of several people who pre-ordered the Gendron book, only to be told, MONTHS later: sorry, there is no separate book available. :eek: But anyway....one way or another, I will be getting a Gilded deck in the very near future!!! :D :) Luna I preordered with Tarotgarden. tried and true. It is well worth the extra few bucks.

lunakasha	26 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Mimers I preordered with Tarotgarden. tried and true. It is well worth the extra few bucks. I agree Mimers... I am not planning to pre-order anything from amazon....although I do shop there (frequently) for in-stock items and have never had a problem...:D :) Luna

Aerin	27 May 2004
If I do order from Amazon, it had better be from the States. The .co.uk ad. is a bit uninspiring, and only mentions one person as creator. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0738705209/ Aerin

cirom	31 May 2004
In a wonderful gesture of generosity, I have just received an order from an Aeclectic forum member to produce a limted edition Gilded Tarot as a gift for....LUNAKASHA. Apparantly this benefactor who has asked that I keep his/her identity secret (all I can say is that he/she is a previous customer) had noticed Lunakasha's many postings and wishes for this deck, and viola !!! Hardly on the same level, but I will also include a signed print of your choice. Please provide me (on a private message) your address and phone number for shipping arrangements. Apparently, Lunakasha, you have a fairy godmother. :-)

lunakasha	31 May 2004
WHAT?????????? ARE YOU SERIOUS?????????:eek: No....this is.....I don't know what to say!!!!!:eek: Oh.....no.......*freaking out right now* Is this really true???? :eek::D I am speechless......WOW......what can I say???? WOW............ :eek:Luna:D (happy, overjoyed but....completely in shock)

OakDragon	31 May 2004
*WOW* Congratulations, Lunie! You must be so happy!!!

tmgrl2	31 May 2004
Way to go, Luna! You deserve it! Now we can go to town talking Gilded Tarot here... When you get the deck, let me know how YOU shuffle it...Lark is working with hers, I know. Oakie still owes you a reading. I haven't used mine for one yet. I finally got the nerve to take it out of it's box where I kept putting it after looking at the cards. It now has a velvet bag of it's own...and my next live reading will be a Gilded Tarot reading... One of my favorite cards, is the Hanging Man, with the chain just out of his reach, as though he is there by choice...for a myriad of reasons, but can "pull the chain" anytime he wishes and set himself free.... glad for you again... tmgrl

lark	31 May 2004
OH Luna! Happy Happy Joy Joy!!!!!! Since I didn't win the lottery it wasn't me who bought it for you.... But I'm so glad someone did! You're going to flip when you get it and you see how beautiful it is. I'm sooooooo Happy for you. Poor Centaur now he'll REALLY be turning a few shades of green. :D

Summerdream	31 May 2004
CONGRATULATIONS KAREN!!!! Congrats to my real life best friend. Aeclectic brought us back together this year after 16 years of not seeing each other and now this!!! Someone up above is sure looking out for you! Wow, I can't believe you will finally have the Gilded Tarot. You must be thrilled. I know I would be!!!! Well, since I can't afford a limited edition for myself, you know it wasn't me who sent you the deck. I very happy for you and will be waiting for the regular edition Gilded so we can share thoughts on it. Enjoy (((KAREN))) Summerdream/Linda:)

lunakasha	31 May 2004
Thank you all SO MUCH!!! :D I am still completely overwhelmed by this....WOW!!!! :D I wish I knew who it was, so I could send them a nice, long, mushy thank-you note!!! This is an unbelievable gift....something that I will treasure always.... And I am very much looking forward to spending time on this thread, discussing it with my friends here....:D Now tmgrl....you mentioned that Oakie owes me a Gilded reading.... Oakie....are you aware of this??? LOL :D :) Luna

OakDragon	31 May 2004
I think she's referring to the one I already posted in the Readings forum, but I'll give you another if you want, Lunie!

lunakasha	31 May 2004
Would you really??? :D That would be AWESOME!!!! We can discuss the details via PM..... Thanks Oakie!!! :P :) Luna

lunakasha	01 Jun 2004
Greetings Gilded fans!!! :D I was wondering if some of you might be able to help me out here.... I am trying to decide what I want on the 79th card....something meaningful to me that will make the deck uniquely mine. But...I'm stuck...need some ideas.....so thought I would ask those of you with the limited edition deck if you could help me out: What did you put on your 79th card....and why??? Thanks....looking forward to hearing your stories!!! :D Luna

tmgrl2	01 Jun 2004
Hey, Luna! My 79th card isn't terribly unique...It says "May the Tarot act as a spiritual guide for you as you complete your journey in this life"...It reminds me of my purpose for reading for myself and for others. I did my FIRST GT reading live today....with my tmgrl spread... The Devil came up in my Valiant position...day to day issues to leave behind...of course, I won't go into entire reading here, since that would belong in My Readings....but when I didn't see those two people below the devil with those "loose" chains around their necks...at first, I felt "deprived" since I always thought of them as not really being "chained" like Ciro's Hanging Man...but then I saw the fire/light rising up toward the Devil...and it came to me...The above comes from the below and the below from above...and the whole message of the rising light coming up from earth to consume what is above in This card...brought forth the same idea of "choice"...the dual idea of the "fires of hell" below but also of the light being below the Devil...that we can choose to be free. In the context of the other cards, the reading felt quite ok... My Q was unknown to me personally. She is a teacher in the Private Hebrew Day School where I see on Kindergarten child. We rarely talk, but today we started talking about the Kabbalah..and Tarot...and off we went... Anyhow, perhaps, we can use this thread for right now to discuss some individualities about the deck, but perhaps at some point, we can start a thread about Using the Gilded Tarot. Right now, I just wanted to share this one card difference. I wonder what Ciro would say about his Devil card.... Of course, I also associate V and XV and see V's as order and disorder (number wise)..Also, I see V, The Hierophant (Pope) as a wise but perhaps stubborn hold man...somehow, for me, this element of persistence in the lures offered by the Devil moves in XV for me... terri

lunakasha	01 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by tmgrl2 My 79th card isn't terribly unique...It says "May the Tarot act as a spiritual guide for you as you complete your journey in this life"...It reminds me of my purpose for reading for myself and for others. Anyhow, perhaps, we can use this thread for right now to discuss some individualities about the deck, but perhaps at some point, we can start a thread about Using the Gilded Tarot. Right now, I just wanted to share this one card difference. Thanks terri!!! I like your quote....I was thinking I might try to come up with something myself....hmmm!!! :P Still trying to decide on a photo or picture of some kind...I already know that I don't want to use a photo of myself....just not for me! :) I think it would be an excellent idea to start a study group with the Gilded cards...although it might be better to wait until September so that everyone can participate... :D Luna

tmgrl2	01 Jun 2004
We might not have a forum for it by itself,but we certainly could start threads under Using Tarot Cards...if we wanted to discuss the cards and the meanings....I know I will keep discovering things as I use the deck. I could never use a picture either for something like the 79th card. I really didn't give it major thought. It was pretty much what came to me when I placed the order. I was so happy about my PayPal finally going through, I just wanted to get the deck under way. Ciro was great to work with on the order...that's so personal of him and special that we can share with him in the forums as well as e-mail him about the order or the deck. terri Luna, have you looked at all the cards on his website already? Any favorites? How about other deck owners? Any favorites? Mine is still The Hanging Man. But that could change.

lunakasha	01 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by tmgrl2 Luna, have you looked at all the cards on his website already? Any favorites? How about other deck owners? Any favorites? Hey terri! I do like the Hanging Man..... I have SO MANY favorites.....where to begin??? :eek: LOL :P I have been checking the website, trying to decide on a print.... did I ever mention that I have a VERY difficult time making decisions??? Ah yes....many sleepless nights ahead of me, hehehe! :laugh: So....let me think on this and post again tomorrow..... Anyone else....favorite cards??? :D Luna

tmgrl2	01 Jun 2004
Are we having fun yet, Luna? That's one of the great joys of Tarot and AT.. And today's first GT reading for me was lovely! Don't know fully what my Q thought, but it doesn't matter. All that mattered was that I do my best and move on.. terri

CreativeFire	01 Jun 2004
Lunakasha - have just caught up on the news of your Gilded deck - how lovely and exciting for you!!!! :) Hope you have a wonderful time with your new deck when it arrives. I have been reading your and terri's posts on a study group, I think it is a great idea as no doubt by the sounds of it, as soon as the general release comes out in a few months, there will be quite a few here at AT keen to get into it. I think (as I am no expert in this), but you can start new study groups under the "General" part of the Study Group forums. There is a thread that outlines about starting a new study group and what is required for it to get its own thread eventually etc. http://www.tarotforum.net/announcement.php?s=&forumid=14&announcementid=51 Even though the general release is still a few months away, it wouldn't hurt to get the outline of the study group going as there are already a few lucky AT members who have the limited edition. Just a thought and something to work on while we all wait impatiently for September! For us without the deck at the moment, we could even possibly follow along for a while with the card views from the web site and then join more when the general release is available. Once again congratulations Lunakasha - I am thrilled for you and you will have to let us all know about your beautiful new deck and the box it comes in as soon as you get it! Cheers CreativeFire

lunakasha	02 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by CreativeFire I have been reading your and terri's posts on a study group, I think it is a great idea as no doubt by the sounds of it, as soon as the general release comes out in a few months, there will be quite a few here at AT keen to get into it. Once again congratulations Lunakasha - I am thrilled for you and you will have to let us all know about your beautiful new deck and the box it comes in as soon as you get it! Cheers CreativeFire Thank you Creative Fire!!!! (((HUGS))) I am VERY excited to get a look at my preciousssssss LOL!!!! And will definitely post the details here when it arrives...:D I am very interested in getting a study group together....as you said, maybe at least figuring out an outline, and then maybe start a few threads...I just don't want to get too far ahead of people who would like to join us after the September release. I also liked tmgrl2's ideas about starting some threads in the "Using Tarot Cards" forum, as long as this is acceptable to the moderators (helping us to determine whether the threads belong there or in the Study forum). Looking forward to many hours perusing the cards with everyone! :D :D Luna

tmgrl2	02 Jun 2004
Just checking in....too busy at work to do much more right now...will follow this thread and hopefully tag along for anything that starts up..Will have some more time in the summer...so we'll see where we are then with the GT and have some fun with it. Luna, did you call the GT "precioussss...." Be careful....poor Gollum/Smeagol from LOTR got into trouble with his "preciousssss" LOL The new Harry Potter movie opens Friday! Enjoy all.... terri

OakDragon	02 Jun 2004
Whenever y'all are ready to start the GT study threads/group, count me in! I should have time for one study group. LOL!

Black*Cat	03 Jun 2004
Oh Luna, I just read the news - what a wonderful gift, you must be sooo happy. You're just going to love them. Quote: Originally posted by tmgrl2 We might not have a forum for it by itself,but we certainly could start threads under Using Tarot Cards...if we wanted to discuss the cards and the meanings....I know I will keep discovering things as I use the deck. I could never use a picture either for something like the 79th card. I really didn't give it major thought. It was pretty much what came to me when I placed the order. terri Luna, have you looked at all the cards on his website already? Any favorites? How about other deck owners? Any favorites? On my 79th card I just put my favourite quote: "our truest life is when we are in dreams, awake" which seems to epitomise the tarot for me - it makes the deck feel so *mine* somehow. The study group is a great idea - count me in whenever you guys think it's a good time to begin. On the shuffling question there was a great post a while back (I can't remember who wrote it, sorry) who suggested a method that I use for this deck. You deal the deck into seven piles, pick one up & deal it on top of the other six. Keep going until you have two piles & then combine them. I do this a few times until it feels that they are well mixed. Sometimes I do it right side up & watch the beautiful cards go past, but mostly I do it with the backs up (I LOVE the backs) - it's quite meditative & peaceful & takes longer to describe than to do!! I'm still finding favourite cards (Qn Pents, the beautiful *flowingness* of Temperance, the Star, my own small stripey tiger in the foliage of the six of cups) but Strength is still holding her own at the top of the list. I've just finished lining my georgeous box (Asher, did you ever get around to doing yours? It's easier than it sounds). Congrats, luna (& keep the Gilded tales flowing) Black*Cat

lunakasha	03 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Black*Cat On my 79th card I just put my favourite quote: "our truest life is when we are in dreams, awake" which seems to epitomise the tarot for me - it makes the deck feel so *mine* somehow. The study group is a great idea - count me in whenever you guys think it's a good time to begin. On the shuffling question there was a great post a while back (I can't remember who wrote it, sorry) who suggested a method that I use for this deck. You deal the deck into seven piles, pick one up & deal it on top of the other six. Keep going until you have two piles & then combine them. I do this a few times until it feels that they are well mixed. Sometimes I do it right side up & watch the beautiful cards go past, but mostly I do it with the backs up (I LOVE the backs) - it's quite meditative & peaceful & takes longer to describe than to do!! Congrats, luna (& keep the Gilded tales flowing) Black*Cat THANKS Black*Cat!!! :D (I love the Strength card too BTW....still have not been able to choose just one or two faves, LOL!) I love your shuffling method...sounds like it might be ideal for this deck!!! Thanks so much...can't wait to try it!!! :D Luna

tmgrl2	03 Jun 2004
Me, too, Black*Cat....I love the shuffling ...this week, I spread them out all over and mixed, but like your idea...very meditative as well. terri

Summerdream	03 Jun 2004
I would love to join this study group once I get the regular edition Gilded in September. Summerdream:)

dolphinprincess	03 Jun 2004
I'd like to join too... I'm not sure when you are looking to start... Ciro does have all of the images on his website, so those without a deck could probably use that site until September.... :D

Summerdream	03 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by dolphinprincess I'd like to join too... I'm not sure when you are looking to start... Ciro does have all of the images on his website, so those without a deck could probably use that site until September.... :D True....why didn't I think of that....lol. Great idea DP!! Summerdream:)

janstar17	03 Jun 2004
I, too, would love to participate in a study group! Though I am very new to AT and new to reading. I have been collecting tarot decks/sets for about 4 years now (have managed to amass 70 decks/sets now!) and have used the cards for personal meditation for many years. When I first ran across the Gilded Tarot and then Ciro's wedsite with all his beautiful images, I knew this was the deck I could read with and study for a lifetime. So, if you all wouldn't mind someone in the group that was little more than a sponge soaking up insight and knowledge, count me in!!!

Summerdream	03 Jun 2004
The more the merrier! Summerdream:)

cirom	03 Jun 2004
I'll be very interested to follow this study group once its up and running. Its fascinating to hear the various interpretations. It also hopefully indicates that I've achieved a balance between creating a reasonably faithfull RW based deck which is easy to read, but one that still leaves room for personal intepretations. Many of the requests I've received by e-mail for various clarifications will be explained in the companion book that I think Llewellyn have done a very nice job with, and I think you will enjoy. But I would address one particular card that did raise some initial question marks when I first presented it. But after hearing my rational, Barbara Moore was then quite ok with it. Namely the ten of cups. Initially it was politely pointed out to me that the image was lacking a key male figure to complete the traditional "happy home" scene. However, I imagined this scene in the first person. I am the male figure if you will. The domestic scene that you see is the one that I also see, the one that welcomes me, the hunter, farmer, forester etc, on my return from my daily duties. I hope that this take on it makes sense.

HudsonGray	03 Jun 2004
That's a good point, we get so familiar with the 'expected' we don't think outside the box--such as seeing it from someone else's eyes as they live the card. Good thing to point out!

tmgrl2	04 Jun 2004
Good point, Ciro, about the Ten of Cups. As we look at many cards, the choice of sex of the figure(s) doesn't necessarily mean that the feminine or masculine aspect has been omitted. A woman of strong inner strength and one who may also be a provider could identify with the role you see for the depicted male. In fact, in my household, my traditional Sicialian "provider-hunter-gather" has become quite dependant on me to his great consternation over the past 6 years. However, I am glad that I can provide financially now, when we both need that piece in place. My husband, on the other hand, is going deep within and his softer, gentler, feminine side is stepping forward. He is blind now and "sees" much of life through different eyes. He has always been extremely intuitive, but now his empathy with others is at a whole different level. So, I wouldn't worry. The cards will work for one who looks beyond a single element or sex of depicted character. terri Looks like we started our study group....

lunakasha	04 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom Namely the ten of cups. Initially it was politely pointed out to me that the image was lacking a key male figure to complete the traditional "happy home" scene. However, I imagined this scene in the first person. I am the male figure if you will. The domestic scene that you see is the one that I also see, the one that welcomes me, the hunter, farmer, forester etc, on my return from my daily duties. I hope that this take on it makes sense. Thanks for sharing that Ciro.... I think it is important, as you mentioned, to find a balance between "traditional" card meanings and some creative interpretation of those meanings. Otherwise, if every deck were an exact replica of the RWS imagery, with no variations....what would be the point of having more than one deck? Personally, one of the reasons I collect so many decks (other than greed and lack of willpower }) ) is to get different perspectives on the cards and hopefully allowing the imagery to guide me in different directions...I would find it very boring if I were limited to one deck or one strict set of "meanings" or guidelines. I think you have done an incredible job of closely following the RWS structure, while also putting your own unique spin on the cards in many ways. I never questioned the intended meaning of the Ten of Cups, simply because the male figure was not shown. :) Luna

dolphinprincess	04 Jun 2004
well, I will nominate our resident queen of the gilded tarot, Lunakasha, to get a study group going :D

OakDragon	04 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by dolphinprincess well, I will nominate our resident queen of the gilded tarot, Lunakasha, to get a study group going :D I second that nomination! :)

lunakasha	04 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by dolphinprincess well, I will nominate our resident queen of the gilded tarot, Lunakasha, to get a study group going :D Aw shucks.....DP and Oakie....how do I respond to that???? :eek: :P Thanks for your vote of confidence.....of course I would love to get things started, with input from everyone who has already expressed an interest in the group. So.....where to begin???? How do people want to do this??? I have some ideas, but I definitely see this as a group effort so....let's discuss!!! :D :D Luna

dolphinprincess	04 Jun 2004
I'm somewhat of an organized person... so I suggest that you (Luna) choose a card... then we discuss. When you feel ready, choose a new card....(although we can keep the previous cards ongoing)... That saves the chaos of everyone posting a different card... But I'm open to other suggestions..

lunakasha	04 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by dolphinprincess I'm somewhat of an organized person... so I suggest that you (Luna) choose a card... then we discuss. When you feel ready, choose a new card....(although we can keep the previous cards ongoing)... That saves the chaos of everyone posting a different card... But I'm open to other suggestions.. Thanks, DP..... I have no problem starting us off with a card, if that is how everyone would like to do this....maybe a new card every week??? Do people have a preference for the order of cards, or would you like me to choose them at random??? For example, in other study groups people have chosen to start with the Majors and go in order from the Fool to the World....others have worked through the Minors, one suit at a time. I personally prefer to jump back and forth between the Majors and Minors....would like to know from everyone how much "structure" you would like to see... Here is another thought I had: I would like to start with a thread for everyone to tell us about their favorite Gilded card (or two or three, LOL!!!). Just to get us warmed up a little...I would really enjoy hearing about the cards that are most meaningful to people, and why.... What do you all think??? :D Please post any suggestions here so we can get started fairly soon....thanks!!! :D :D Luna

cirom	04 Jun 2004
Hi everyone, just like to add that I've finally finished the Gilded Tarot Screensaver. If you visit the following link to a page on my web site you will be able to see a small preview of it, along with additional info. http://www.ciromarchetti.com/gilded_tarot/gift_shop.html Anyone who would like to, can download it for free. The only thing is its a reasonably large file and you'll need a little patience if you don't have a fast access internet connection. Also, while it will work on older machines, playback may be slower or choppier. Anyway for those who decide to try it....enjoy.

janstar17	04 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom Hi everyone, just like to add that I've finally finished the Gilded Tarot Screensaver. Anyone who would like to, can download it for free. Anyway for those who decide to try it....enjoy. Ciro...your generousity amazes!! I will definitely give the download a try...even on my ol' dialup at home!! Anything around the GT is a 'must have.' I'm trying to make up my mind which Major Arcana print(s) to order...very, very hard to choose. :-)

tmgrl2	04 Jun 2004
First, thanks to Ciro, for staying in touch with us through AT...I feel his love for his own work will encourage him to give us input when we start our study group as well. And, Luna, I agree with everyone else....get it up and running! I'm ok with however we do it...I would like some leeway, for postings about individual questions re cards as they come up...just like the 10 of Cups Question arose...and for me, the Devil card surprising me by not having those two humans in the lower part....all of which adds to its uniqueness. So if we could weave this into the Study Group, fine. If not, we can always post a separate thread under Using Tarot Cards about particular meanings and interpretations of cards in the deck. terri

CreativeFire	04 Jun 2004
I also think it a great idea that Lunakasha lead off our Gilded Study group. Lunakasha will now also be known as the "Gilded Queen"! :D In regards to what order - I also would like to have a random selection of cards. Even though I usually like things pretty structured, but as there are a number of different study groups going eg. 78 Week Study group, Thoth Study Group - most of these seem to start with the Majors, so it would be nice to have one that covers different cards instead. Maybe Lunakasha can just draw one at random from the deck each week. :) Just a suggestion, but as terri also mentioned, there maybe questions that come up about different cards as we go, if we start all the threads off with say "Gilded Study Group" and then the card name for the more formal study of the card eg. "Gilded Study Group - Ace of Wands" and then for the questions still have "Gilded Study Group - 10 of Cups Question?". Then when we do end up doing the full study of the card, these "question" threads can be easily found and linked to the main card thread for reference. Does that make sense? LOL I am just thinking along the lines of the outline for study groups that once we get more than 10+ threads, Solandia may set up a separate forum for the study of the deck and then all the info will be in one spot and easier to find and jump around between cards - just my 2c worth. :) Even though I won't have the deck until the general release in September I am happy to follow along with the cards on the website until then if everyone wants to start sooner rather than later. Cheers CreativeFire

lunakasha	04 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by tmgrl2 I'm ok with however we do it...I would like some leeway, for postings about individual questions re cards as they come up...just like the 10 of Cups Question arose...and for me, the Devil card surprising me by not having those two humans in the lower part....all of which adds to its uniqueness. So if we could weave this into the Study Group, fine. If not, we can always post a separate thread under Using Tarot Cards about particular meanings and interpretations of cards in the deck. terri Thanks terri.... I don't see any reason why we shouldn't post questions about the cards on their respective threads....I think that is all part of the discussion process, and hopefully by bringing up a question, this might allow others to get a different perspective on that card. Again....all part of the learning and discussion that I would hope to see happening on all of the study group threads.... If someone has an urgent need to discuss a specific card which does not already have a thread going, we can always start a new thread for that card....just as long as we do not post too many threads at once. :) Luna

tmgrl2	04 Jun 2004
I agree, Luna, if we have questions about a card that already has a thread, just post it there....or if it's a card we haven't yet studied, we can start a new thread with a question. I personally like the idea of random pulls. Every time I decide to get started in a formal group, I never seem to get past the Empress or the Chariot...In the TdM, we have had random cards pulled for study and I really like it....unless they aren't random and I'm just picking up on a bumped link, but it's fun to see a link for a card and join in ...that way the variety of cards I study, at least seems to be more expanded, since I also get into the TdMarseille cards and some RW too. This should be fun. I just posted in punchinella's thread about finding live querents what happened today (in depth) when I pulled out the Gilded deck in between all-day meetings at our administration building.....If I keep this up, Ciro will make me a marketing manager in my retirement. LOL terri

lunakasha	04 Jun 2004
Hello Gilded fans!!! Just wanted to let everyone know: The first threads for the Gilded study group have been posted..... http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27174 http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27177 See ya there!!! :P :D Luna

OakDragon	04 Jun 2004
After getting Ciro's ok, I decided to share my 79th card with the world. I'm sorry, I'm just so thrilled with how it turned out! (It's a picture of me when I was about 4.) :D

lunakasha	04 Jun 2004
Thanks OakDragon!!! That is such a sweet picture....what a wonderful way of personalizing your deck! :D Nice of you to share it with us! :) Luna

janstar17	04 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon After getting Ciro's ok, I decided to share my 79th card with the world. I'm sorry, I'm just so thrilled with how it turned out! :D You should be thrilled!!! What a great 79th card. I told myself that I absolutely can not afford my very own handcrafted GT but it is so HARD to resist. :-(

tmgrl2	05 Jun 2004
Very beautiful choice for 79th card!

Black*Cat	05 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon After getting Ciro's ok, I decided to share my 79th card with the world. I'm sorry, I'm just so thrilled with how it turned out! (It's a picture of me when I was about 4.) :D OakDragon - what a georgeous 79th card. It must make your deck feel so special!! Thanks so much sharing it with us. Black*Cat

lunakasha	05 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by CreativeFire Just a suggestion, but as terri also mentioned, there maybe questions that come up about different cards as we go, if we start all the threads off with say "Gilded Study Group" and then the card name for the more formal study of the card eg. "Gilded Study Group - Ace of Wands" and then for the questions still have "Gilded Study Group - 10 of Cups Question?". Then when we do end up doing the full study of the card, these "question" threads can be easily found and linked to the main card thread for reference. Does that make sense? LOL Hi CreativeFire!!! :) Would you believe I somehow missed this post yesterday, and have just read it now??? :eek: OOPS!!! Well, I really like your suggestion of including Question threads as they come up, which tmgrl also mentioned. I think this would be great....again, as long as we don't end up with too many threads popping up at once. I also agree that it will be much easier and less confusing once the group moves to its own forum..... Meanwhile, I am keeping an ongoing list of all the study group threads in one place, so that people can quickly find the cards currently being discussed: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27174 Also, if anyone decides to open a thread, please PM me so that I can add it to the list and hopefully avoid duplicate threads....thanks! :P Thanks again, CF and tmgrl for your input....I think we are going to have A LOT of fun discussing the precioussssss Gilded!!! :D Luna

sunflowr	05 Jun 2004
I looked this deck up on Amazon (oh and many thanks LunaKasha for addicting me to another deck!!!!! ;p lol!), and maybe this is old news but it looks like the deck is scheduled for september! :) Much better than October! I hope it's early september!! Better yet, I hope this gets upp'ed another few months. ;)

sunflowr	05 Jun 2004
Hi, I'm Lisa.. and I'm a Gilded Tartoholic. LunaKasha made me who I am today. Along with the creator of this deck. And now I can't wait. I CAN'T wait!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!! I gotta have it NOW!! ;) Ok... :::breathing deeply::: This is a beautiful deck! :) I love so many of the cards so I'll have to go back to the website and see which ones are my faves. I do love the Lovers and The Star. And the 2 of cups. I also LOVE how it's close to the Rider Waite symbolism .. so I can use this with the books that are out there on the market. I'll be able to read this right out of the box. :) But I am curious.. will there be a regular book to go along with this? Is this a boxed set or will it be a deck by itself? If with a book, is the artist also the author? ps: I have seen this thread around for such a long time but always bypassed it because I thought it was for another deck (one with gold edges) that I'm not into. It's a good thing I didnt know about this deck sooner. I'd have gone nuts if I had to wait a year! ;p 3 months is bad enough! September will be a good month. :) New season of the Ellen DeGeneres Show... and release of the Gilded Tarot. :) :)

lunakasha	05 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by sunflowr Hi, I'm Lisa.. and I'm a Gilded Tartoholic. LunaKasha made me who I am today. Along with the creator of this deck. And now I can't wait. I CAN'T wait!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!! I gotta have it NOW!! ;) Ok... :::breathing deeply::: This is a beautiful deck! :) I love so many of the cards so I'll have to go back to the website and see which ones are my faves. I do love the Lovers and The Star. And the 2 of cups. I also LOVE how it's close to the Rider Waite symbolism .. so I can use this with the books that are out there on the market. I'll be able to read this right out of the box. :) But I am curious.. will there be a regular book to go along with this? Is this a boxed set or will it be a deck by itself? If with a book, is the artist also the author? Hello Lisa.....and welcome to the world of Gilded addiction!!! }) There is no cure....but you can find support here, with the rest of the addicts, hehehehehe!!! :P Glad you have discovered the Gilded and are as excited about it as the rest of us!!! :D I wanted to answer a couple of your questions.... Yes, the release date for the Llewellyn edition is September; earlier reports had estimated an October release, but fortunately the process with Llewellyn has gone very smoothly and all indications are that it will be released on-schedule, in September! There will be a companion book released with the deck, and you can purchase them as a set....I am not sure if the deck is available separately or not, but I think the preorders on amazon are for the deck/book set..... I look forward to seeing you here and on the study group threads!!! :) Luna

CreativeFire	06 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cirom Hi everyone, just like to add that I've finally finished the Gilded Tarot Screensaver. If you visit the following link to a page on my web site you will be able to see a small preview of it, along with additional info. http://www.ciromarchetti.com/gilded_tarot/gift_shop.html Anyone who would like to, can download it for free. The only thing is its a reasonably large file and you'll need a little patience if you don't have a fast access internet connection. Also, while it will work on older machines, playback may be slower or choppier. Anyway for those who decide to try it....enjoy. I have just downloaded and installed Ciro's Gilded Screensaver and it is awesome!! Thanks Ciro for taking the time to provide this screen saver it is beautiful! :) Love how the background colours change as well as the images! Cheers CreativeFire

sunflowr	06 Jun 2004
Hey Luna.. lucky girl you. ;) I just finished reading more posts and noticed that you're in store for a Gilded Gift! :) Wow! I wish I had a Fairy Godmother! Well maybe I do but she is asleep in the tarot department perhaps. ;) So.. you have much less time to wait than we do! Lucky girl! heehee ;D I'm excited for you! Wow, that's like winning a major prize!! :) Forgive me for being late in the game here.. I'm commenting and noticing stuff from long ago posts! lol!

lunakasha	06 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by CreativeFire I have just downloaded and installed Ciro's Gilded Screensaver and it is awesome!! Thanks Ciro for taking the time to provide this screen saver it is beautiful! :) Love how the background colours change as well as the images! Cheers CreativeFire YES....me too!!!! :D Isn't it wonderful???? I would encourage anyone hasn't already downloaded the screensaver to go for it....it is FREE and it is AMAZING!!! :D :) Luna

OakDragon	06 Jun 2004
I love the screensaver, too. I'm glad he made a Mac version!

CreativeFire	06 Jun 2004
Yes it is great having the screensaver to look at until the deck arrives in Sept! :D I have even changed the default on my PC to 5 mins to go to screensaver as I like it so much! LOL Hey love your new avatar Oakdragon!! :) My son is a mad dragon collector and has pics all over his room. CreativeFire

OakDragon	06 Jun 2004
Thanks, Creative Fire! I got it from a picture called "Druid Stone", IIRC, by Keith Parkinson. Hope he doesn't mind! :)

smokey	10 Jun 2004
Lunakasha, WOW!!! Haven't checked in awhile,& just got your AWESOME news!!! I Told you I heard the "wisp-o-the faery wings buzzin," now,didn't I?!? My Joy 4-U Positively Overflows!!! I cannot Wait to hear ALL about it!!! First...this morning...I read of your Greenwood fortune... Next, I read WolfyJames' finding her beloved Golden Tarot... Now...THIS!!! It don't get no better,my dear friends...whatta' way ta' start the morn!!! lotsa' luv,

lunakasha	10 Jun 2004
Thanks smokey!!! :D Yes....you did mention hearing those faerie wings buzzing.....but I don't think I actually believed it at the time, LOL!!! :P Thanks so much for your kind words this morning....I feel truly blessed right now, for many reasons.... :D Luna

tao51	15 Jun 2004
There are two great decks due in Septemeber the Guilded Tarot and the Tarot of Death. September will be a great month!--Tao

Centaur	17 Jun 2004
On another thread, there is some discussion of shuffling ze preccccccccccccious Gilded. Hehehe. I for one know that I would be very careful when shuffling such an expensive deck. Anyway... it got me to thinking of an interesting question. This is for all the LE Gilded owners here: What would you do if you or someone damaged one of your Gilded cards? Would you break that person's fingers? Haha. }) LOL.

lark	17 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur On another thread, there is some discussion of shuffling ze preccccccccccccious Gilded. Hehehe. I for one know that I would be very careful when shuffling such an expensive deck. Anyway... it got me to thinking of an interesting question. This is for all the LE Gilded owners here: What would you do if you or someone damaged one of your Gilded cards? Would you break that person's fingers? Haha. }) LOL. More like hang them by their thumbs, smeared with honey, over the top of an ant hill. Then I would email my dear Ciro and beg for a replacement card. Here is a picture of my preccccccccious being used for it's daily spread. The box on the left is what they came in. The box on the right is my green bumble bee box that I keep the Robin Wood in. And the doll on the table is Grandmother Moon, my dear fairy friend.

Centaur	17 Jun 2004
Oooooo. Very nice! Thanks for sharing that. It has gotten me all excited about ze precious! :)

cirom	17 Jun 2004
For those of you who already own a Gilded LE, or intend to obtain a standard version when released. Attached is a reference file of another item that can be downloaded from my site. (within a couple of hours). http://www.ciromarchetti.com/gilded_tarot/gift_shop.html Its a Gilded themed letterhead, that can be used to write down reading you produce for your clients when using the Gilded. The file, once downloaded can be output on your printer, or taken to your local instant printer to run off copies.

lunakasha	17 Jun 2004
Nice picture lark!!! What a lovely space you have there!!!! I am wondering now where I am going to keep my precioussss..... it deserves a special place like that! :P Time for a little spring cleaning perhaps....:eek: :) Luna

lark	17 Jun 2004
Thank you Ciro Very nice! I love the special letter head for doing our readings with. Boy, do you spoil us! But keep doing it we love it!

lark	17 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Nice picture lark!!! What a lovely space you have there!!!! I am wondering now where I am going to keep my precioussss..... it deserves a special place like that! :P Time for a little spring cleaning perhaps....:eek: :) Luna thank you Luna, It's an old desk I refinishied. It has one big deep drawer and I can keep all 90 of my decks in if I keep them in no ouch ponytail holders instead of bags. But the Gilded is always kept right on top of the desk, in it's special tapestry box. Here's a picture with the drawer open... with all ze precioussss decks I own.

lunakasha	17 Jun 2004
BEAUTIFUL!!!!! :D WOW....that looks SOOOO awesome!!!! I really need to figure out a special place for all of my decks..... I am already thinking and looking around for the right place for my Gilded....possibly right on my nightstand??? So I can gaze at it lovingly just before bedtime??? Hehehehe!!! :P Thanks for sharing those photos....inspiring!!! :D Luna

tmgrl2	17 Jun 2004
Thank you for the letterhead, Ciro....love it! terri

tmgrl2	17 Jun 2004
Great photos, Lark! I don't have a special place like that...yet... but do have my reading cards in velvet bags.. I love the letterhead...I ask my Q's if they wish to take notes...so there you have it! terri

janstar17	17 Jun 2004
Lark...your tarot space is awe-inspiring!! Wow, I gotta look around my house tonight. :)

babyd	17 Jun 2004
Ciro our hero strikes again !! lol ;o) It is stunning Ciro, as is all your work. thank you so much for thinking of us and allowing us to use this beautiful letterhead for our Gilded readings. it never ceases to amaze me how much of your precious time you spend for us. hugs babyd

tmgrl2	17 Jun 2004
Printed out five, Ciro...they're lovely...and ready to go.. terri

lunakasha	17 Jun 2004
Thanks Ciro!!! They are wonderful....anxious to print them out on the other computer....:D Also wanted to mention that I just found out....my Gilded is on its way and should arrive on Tuesday......YAY!!!!! :D :D :D I am afraid I will not be sleeping well for the next few days... :eek: feels like the night before Christmas!!! ;) :D Luna

OakDragon	18 Jun 2004
That's wonderful news, Lunie! I'm so happy for you!!! :D

CreativeFire	18 Jun 2004
Lunakasha - excellent news! You will be like a kid before Christmas, counting how many "sleeps" until they arrive. LOL :D ** Ciro, thankyou very much for the great letter head, will definitely print some out when the general release comes, it is a lovely idea to write down the readings this way to give to our querents. Cheers CreativeFire

lunakasha	20 Jun 2004
To my great surprise and joy.....my Limited Edition Gilded deck arrived EARLY....and I wanted to come here and share my first impressions of the preciousss with all of my friends here! :) Yes...I was expecting delivery on Tuesday, so imagine my surprise when Mr. Fed Ex pulled up in front of my house Saturday morning!!! :eek: (I think I may have scared him a little bit....:P) First I opened my signed print--Peacock Lagoon, which is a GORGEOUS scene of water, mountains, moon and stars....the colors are exquisite, all shades of blue, green and violet. The peacocks also remind me of the Pentacles court cards of the Gilded....thanks Ciro!!! :D Then I scurried off to a quiet room to open the box containing my beautiful new deck....my hands were shaking!!! Inside the cardboard box there was a beautiful, burgundy, green and black tapestry box with a domed, padded lid. The box was trimmed with black braiding and a black tassel on the lid. Very elegant! I slowly opened the box to find a treasure of gold inside..... nestled underneath some golden tinsel, the deck was carefully wrapped inside shiny gold paper. The presentation took my breath away....and remains inside the box with the deck.... I opened the gold paper very carefully...and sitting on top was my 79th card.....it was absolutely perfect, even more beautiful than I had imagined it would be. Ciro had taken my suggestions, my verse, and added his own magic touch...to create a unique card that really made the deck feel personal and special to me. After spending a few minutes with my 79th card, I began to look through the other 78 cards, very slowly. How can I begin to describe it??? Well....as others here have mentioned, the richness of these colors, and especially the tiny details, are much clearer in the cards than they appear on the website. As beautiful as they are online, the actual cards are so much more vibrant, crisp...alive. I was--and am--truly amazed by the beauty and exquisite detail of each card....I also felt immediately that these cards will be very intuitive and a pleasure to read with. Ciro has succeeded in creating a deck that is not only visually stunning, but also follows the RWS system closely enough to make it easy to interpret the meanings...whether the person is a beginner or more experienced reader.... There is so much more I could say....and I look forward to posting in more detail through the study threads. I am still in shock that this deck is really mine....and I am incredibly grateful to the generous, anonymous Aeclectic member who has made this happen for me. Thank you so much....I will enjoy and treasure these cards more than you know..... :) Luna

lunakasha	20 Jun 2004
OOOOH yes..... forgot to mention that my deck is number 150...... which breaks down to VI--The Lovers.....:) Very nice....the Lovers is one of my favorite cards in this deck! :) Luna

sunflowr	20 Jun 2004
I'm so happy for you!! :)

Summerdream	20 Jun 2004
Congratulations Luna!!! Bet that Fed Ex driver must have been surprised! Enjoy your deck. The way you described it, it sounds gorgeous. Please post your first reading! Luv, Summerdream:)))

tmgrl2	20 Jun 2004
Enjoy, Luna...that's what life should be about. tmgrl It is lovely, isn't it?

lark	20 Jun 2004
Congratulations luna! I just got home and saw your post. I'm so happy for you. It sounds like we have the same tapestry box!!! I hope the Fed Ex guy isn't fluttering around in the driveway shredded into little pieces!!!!! :D Can't wait to hear your first reading.

lunakasha	20 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark I hope the Fed Ex guy isn't fluttering around in the driveway shredded into little pieces!!!!! :D Poor poor man....he may never recover!!! }) :D LOL....thanks lark!!!! :) I will be spending some "quality time" with the precioussss before I actually shuffle and read with them but....definitely.... soon!!! I am still overwhelmed....they are just incredible!!! :) Luna

Centaur	21 Jun 2004
Congratulations Luna!!!! I will look forward to hearing more of your thoughts on the preccccccccccccccious! :) }) ;)

CreativeFire	21 Jun 2004
Yes, congratulations, Luna!! :) Loved reading your post, as you can sense your excitement and joy leaping off the page! Had a chuckle about you scaring the FedEx man! :D Enjoy! and I look forward to you posting more once you have had time to sit and gaze and play and gaze! ;) Cheers CreativeFire

lunakasha	21 Jun 2004
Thank you, Centaur and CreativeFire!!! :D Yes....I was (and am) very excited and giddy over it all....could you tell??? :P Hehehehe.....it was nice to be able to share it here, with people who can fully appreciate the experience....non-tarot people really just don't *get* it, right??? :D I am very much looking forward to partcipating more in the study discussions...and especially anxious for September, so that all of us can *play* together!!!! :D }) :D :) Luna

Centaur	22 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha I am very much looking forward to partcipating more in the study discussions...and especially anxious for September, so that all of us can *play* together!!!! :D }) :D Knowing my luck, the release date will probably be posponed. LOL.

lunakasha	22 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur Knowing my luck, the release date will probably be posponed. LOL. LOL Centaur....I don't think so!!! We are talking about Llewellyn here, and not US Games after all... :D Luna

tmgrl2	22 Jun 2004
Hey, everybody...how's it going? I did two more live readings with my LE GT yesterday, one for my friend at work (she loved it) and another for myself. Love this deck! terri Isn't it georgeous, Luna? It has its own unique "smell" , too....very pungent and kind of heady. Anyone else notice that?

Centaur	22 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha We are talking about Llewellyn here, and not US Games after all... Hehehe. True, true. :)

Summerdream	22 Jun 2004
Today I just received the Gilded Tarot in the mail. My husband knew I wanted the deck and surprised me by purchasing it for my anniversary present which is actually July 9th. He is obviously the best husband in the world. He said he was waiting for our anniversary to get the deck for me and that makes it even more special. He had me email Ciro a few weeks ago with some questions about the deck and I guess in the meantime while I was having conversations with Ciro he had already ordered it. When Steve told me he had ordered it, I started thinking about what I wanted on my 79th card. I came up with an idea and Ciro made magic! It is absolutely stunning and holds significant meaning to me. I wanted to wait till I had it in hand and post afterwards because I was still in shock that I would be receiving it. Well, it came today. It was in a beautiful wood box that looks like a treasure chest with handles and a clasp to open it. Inside it was all wrapped in gold foil and tied with a gold ribbon. It looked absolutely stunning with gold foil strips all around it. First I saw my 79th card, which Is soooooooo wonderful. I had seen it before when I asked Ciro to send me a sample of how it looked, but In person it is even better. Then I slowly went through all my cards which I have 10 changes. The colors are even better in person and more vibrant than the webpage can do justice. I am just soooo thankful to my wonderful husband who isn't into tarot at all, but because he knew of my love for it he bought me something I will always treasure. Summerdream:)

lark	22 Jun 2004
What a beautiful story! And what a wonderful husband! Congratulations Summerdream! And Happy Anniversary!

lunakasha	22 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by tmgrl2 Hey, everybody...how's it going? I did two more live readings with my LE GT yesterday, one for my friend at work (she loved it) and another for myself. Love this deck! terri Isn't it georgeous, Luna? It has its own unique "smell" , too....very pungent and kind of heady. Anyone else notice that? LOL tmgrl.....yes, I noticed the smell too....not bad though, different!!! :) It is absolutely gorgeous....I am still taking my time with it, getting to know each card....there is just so much to see in each one of them....it is just amazing to me that someone could create something so beautiful...and using computer software to make images that look like rich oil paintings....Ciro is absolutely brilliant!!! :D I am very, very pleased....very touched that someone gave me such a preciousssss gift!!! :) I would like to hear more about your readings....are they posted yet??? I am getting antsy to start shuffling mine and laying them out....OOOOOH!!! :D Luna

lunakasha	22 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Summerdream First I saw my 79th card, which Is soooooooo wonderful. I had seen it before when I asked Ciro to send me a sample of how it looked, but In person it is even better. Then I slowly went through all my cards which I have 10 changes. The colors are even better in person and more vibrant than the webpage can do justice. I am just soooo thankful to my wonderful husband who isn't into tarot at all, but because he knew of my love for it he bought me something I will always treasure. Summerdream:) Congratulations Summer!!! :D Yes, your hubby is a GREAT guy!!! :P And your 79th card is absolutely stunning....something to be treasured....I am so pleased to have shared that with you tonight...hope you post it soon!!! :D Luna

Summerdream	22 Jun 2004
I just posted my 79th card over here: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27226 Summerdream:)

lunakasha	23 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark It sounds like we have the same tapestry box!!! Yes indeed....we do!!! :D I just went back to look at your lovely little tarot space..... and our boxes are identical....thought that was pretty cool!!! BTW your little space inspired me to come up with a special place for my preciousssss....right next to my bed, surrounded by many beautiful stones and crystals.....thanks!!! :) Luna

tmgrl2	23 Jun 2004
HOORAY, SUMMERDREAM! What a guy! I have one like that, too! He knows just what I want most and then he gets it for me... We are going to have some fun with our decks..especially when everyone gets the mass produced one. I am wondering whether we should post readings we do with our Gilded under the Gilded Study Group: My readings...or will be expected to post them under My Readings Forum. Congratulations on your anniversary, SD and on getting the GT. hugs, terri

Summerdream	23 Jun 2004
Hi Tmgrl2! Did you check out my 79th card? Let me know what you think. Summerdream:)

Centaur	23 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Summerdream Today I just received the Gilded Tarot in the mail. My husband knew I wanted the deck and surprised me by purchasing it for my anniversary present which is actually July 9th. He is obviously the best husband in the world. He said he was waiting for our anniversary to get the deck for me and that makes it even more special. I need to find myself a husband. NOW!

lunakasha	23 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Centaur I need to find myself a husband. NOW! LMAO Centaur....we've got to find you a nice, sweet sugar daddy!!! }) :D Hehehehe..... :D Luna

lark	23 Jun 2004
Centaur~ you are too funny!!! I'm still trying to win the lottery and I promise I'll send you a Gilded if I do. But your very own "sugar daddy" would be even better. Luna~ You're very welcome! Having my own space is so calming and puts me in the right frame of mind to do readings. I recommend it to everyone. A small desk, a bedside table, even a shelf in a bookcase, or in a closet. As long as it's all yours and you can put your very special things on it. Summerdream~ I think your 79th card is beautiful! Luna yours too. (I love ravens.) I'm jealous because mine is so plain. I didn't know I could be so creative with it. I was so shocked at winning the Gilded that I didn't put much though into my 79th card. It just says " This Special Edition Gilded tarot by Ciro Marchetti was produced for (then my name.) Deck number 48. I would do it all different now after seeing how creative you all were and what a magician Ciro is with your ideas. tmgrl2~ I have a funny feeling that the Gilded will be getting its own study group once it's published in Sept. :)

tmgrl2	23 Jun 2004
I agree about the Study Group, Lark... And, Luna and Summerdream, your 79th's are beautiful! I wish, now, I had thought of sending in a childhood pic or something. I love the family photo idea and I also love the raven. terri

tmgrl2	23 Jun 2004
PS, Lark...I cleared out a whole shelf in my cabinet in my office and all of my decks are flat in velvet bags, instead of jammed into a box...also some incense...I'm happy I did that. Thank you for the idea... terri

Centaur	23 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lark But your very own "sugar daddy" would be even better. I am sure that he would end up in a mental institution. I would provide him with a list of wants and demand that they be met within the space of 24 hours, or severe consequences would be had. Ooooo... I could order a whole tarot-catalogue. })

CreativeFire	23 Jun 2004
I have really enjoyed seeing your 79th cards Summerdream and Luna - they are lovely! :) It is a great way to personalise the deck for you and make it even more special. Summerdream, you are indeed very lucky to have such a thoughtful husband, what a wonderful gift. lark and terri, I also think it is very important to have some 'tarot' space put aside that is special. I was lucky enough to get a small room for my Mother's day gift which I really enjoy (and use) so much. It is a good thing the computer is not in there as well, otherwise the family would never see me! LOL :D Centaur, oooh a whole tarot catalogue - probably a good thing that you don't have a sugar daddy then! CreativeFire

Centaur	23 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by CreativeFire Centaur, oooh a whole tarot catalogue - probably a good thing that you don't have a sugar daddy then! Haha. Indeed! :) }) ;) I'm pleased that everyone is happy with their Gilded!!! I am looking forward to when it is on general release. Yay! :)

sunflowr	23 Jun 2004
Luna.. where is your 79th card posted, so I can see it? I think I missed the link or something. Thanks! :)

Summerdream	23 Jun 2004
Hi! The links for Luna and my 79th cards are here: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27226 Summerdream:)

tmgrl2	23 Jun 2004
I did another GT reading for myself today... Two days ago, I did a Mind, Body, Spirit for myself: and got Mind: Knight of Swords (all blue and intellectual dashing toward the past) Body: Four of Cups (Reversed) No brainer since I have been having the thyroid med toxicity. I am SPENT and feeling it emotionally, even though the basis is a physical cause. Spirit: 3 Pentacles. If you look at the GT 3 Pents, the "blacksmith has already forged in the fire, two perfect pentacles above his head. He holds the third one in his hand. It is in process of going through fire and water to become molded to its final shape. My spirit needs some healing, too, right now and I have to "forge" that third pentacle through patience and through some fire and water, hot and cold, ups and downs... The downs started today...they jumped down two levels of levothyroxin (he wanted to go four, because my symptoms were a cardiac risk)...but now, I'm feeling tired and a bit blue...but trying to listen to my reading and let the intellectual Mind stuff of the Knight GO where he is heading ...in the past. Also trying to be patient since this adjustment could be weeks, maybe months again. So...here I am hanging out at AT between dinner, Golden Girls reruns and an interview with Big Bill Clinton on Biography tonight. I love the way this deck speaks to me. I pulled a card from the Sacred Circle today...After the GT, it just doesn't have the same impact...and the words are distracting to me....It's interesting that my favorite decks to read with are the GT and two of my Tarot de Marseille decks. Be back later...terri

lunakasha	23 Jun 2004
Thanks terri.... I really liked what you said about the Three of Pentacles, how you were able to apply the images you saw to your current situation...and I would like to add that I hope you are able to get stabilized on your medications and feel better soon! :) <> Great description terri....I could picture this Knight, dashing away and taking your pain and anxiety with him.... Best wishes and hugs! :) Luna

tmgrl2	23 Jun 2004
Thanks, Luna...I hope I'm on my way. The card is so BLUE...I think of so many things with blue...not just intellect or communication for the Swords suit in the GT...It was also a lot of sadness...blue mood with the knight representing so much energy. Just happened to be reading about Knights (Cavalier) in one of Klea's books. She talked about earlier connections with the Four Knights: Baton (Black Death), Coupe (Famine) Epee (War) and Denier (Death) ...how dark is that? But when I saw that Blue Knight and most of the card in blue, I felt like there was a battle in my mind over what was going on with me. What if? What if? Ohmygoodness...so the card was perfect: Send that Knight into the past where he was headed and get out of my own HEAD! terri

sunflowr	23 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Summerdream Hi! The links for Luna and my 79th cards are here: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27226 Summerdream:) thanks! :) What beautiful cards! :) Oh I wish I was a lucky reciepient of one of these special decks. I can't get a 79th card out of the general release. But I am still looking forward to the deck anyway. :)

lunakasha	24 Jun 2004
Just wanted to let people know.... There is a new thread posted in the General Study forum, to discuss the Knight of Swords.... I look forward to reading your posts there and having some discussion...I also agree with tmgrl, lark and CreativeFire...that the group should take off quickly in September...I am really looking forward to having more people involved, and studying these fascinating cards together.... :) Luna

tmgrl2	24 Jun 2004
Oh, goodie. On my way to the Knight of Swords! terri

tao51	25 Jun 2004
As I hear the discussion about this deck--it makes be impatient to hold this beautiful deck.--Tao

tao51	30 Jun 2004
and we tarotholics must wait...wait...wait!--Tao

smokey	03 Jul 2004
Luna...WOW!!!...They (box & personal card,that is...sound exquisi- tite! I Know myself t/deck is,lol!!!) Soo Happy for U!!! Congrats!!! ENJOY!!!

lunakasha	03 Jul 2004
Quote: Originally posted by smokey Luna...WOW!!!...They (box & personal card,that is...sound exquisi- tite! I Know myself t/deck is,lol!!!) Soo Happy for U!!! Congrats!!! ENJOY!!! THANKS smokey!!! :D Yes....I am enjoying the preciousssss very much..... in fact, you just reminded me that I need to post my new deck reading, which I did during the shutdown period earlier this week...the shuffling is tricky, but not impossible!!! They are a wonderful reading deck, in addition to being so beautiful.... :) Luna EDITED TO ADD: My first Gilded reading is posted here: http://67.19.40.82/showthread.php?s=&postid=319719#post319719

tao51	10 Jul 2004
A personalized card! How fantastic! You are indeed fortunate!--Tao

Jeannette	28 Jul 2004
We received word approximately a half-hour ago that the massmarket edition of the Gilded Tarot has reached the publisher's, and is anticipated to be shipped to preordering dealers this week. We expect to receive our supply at Tarot Garden by Monday, or possibly sooner. Anyone who preordered this deck through us should receive a broadcast email update with full information within the next 72 hours. -- Jeannette The Tarot Garden

lunakasha	28 Jul 2004
WOW!!!!! That is WONDERFUL news Jeannette!!!! :D I did not preorder mine, so I will need to wait a little longer, but it is so nice to know that the deck is being released EARLY, especially after seeing so many decks being delayed recently. Thanks for the update!!! :) Luna

OakDragon	28 Jul 2004
YES! YES! YES! Yippee! Now I'll be able to carry a more portable gilded with me everywhere. That's wonderful! Thanks for the update!

lark	28 Jul 2004
Wow, what a nice early surprise... Me too, OakDragon now I can take a deck to the fair!!!! Ciro must be very happy.

The 78th Fool	31 Jul 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon YES! YES! YES! Yippee! Now I'll be able to carry a more portable gilded with me everywhere. That's wonderful! Thanks for the update! --------------- My sentiments exactly! I can't wait to get hold of the accompanying book as well. The postman will be the bearer of glad tidings indeed this coming week!!!! Chris. xx

OakDragon	31 Jul 2004
Got an email confirmation from TG today that it shipped yesterday and that I should expect it to arrive on Monday or so.

tmgrl2	31 Jul 2004
Yup...TG got it earlier than expected too! Awaiting mine as well. Have been reading with my LE, but think the mass-produced deck will be the "wear and tear" deck! Way to go, Ciro! May you sell out! terri

Tarot Sparrow	31 Jul 2004
I started this thread and yet I never read it :D But now my Gilded's on the way! Yay!

MariposAzl	19 Feb 2005
I received the Guilded Tarot as a gift about 4 months ago as an exchange for another deck. I wanted this deck so badly, it seemed as if it was calling to me. The art work is absolutely beautiful. But, since I've had it, I do not find myself connecting with this deck. I have "spent time" with it, and studied it intently, and although I find it beautifull to look at, I cannot read with it. I attempted to do readings with the Guilded on a couple of occasions, but I just don't feel "it" when I try to read these cards. I have been reading/studying Tarot for a couple of years now, and up until this deck, the only other deck I own is the Rider-Waite which I have no problems reading with. I wonder if anyone else has had this experience with this or any other deck, and If there is any advise out there for me about reading with this particular deck. ~Mari

RedMaple	20 Feb 2005
Since this is only your second deck, it may be that you're just having trouble making the transition to new images. I found when I first was trying new decks it took a little time reading with them before I could connect and my subconscious could learn the language of the new deck. I think that is normal, and I suggest, if you like the artwork, spend some time studying, playing, and doing three-card readings. Eventually, if the deck is right for you, it will click. I find that it takes much less time, usually, for me to connect with a deck now, but not always. My Golden, which has become my favorite, took quite a while, I think because it is so rich and deep. I think getting to know a deck is like learning a new language, or a new kind of music.

MariposAzl	21 Feb 2005
Thanx for the input RedMaple :)

seapearls	23 Feb 2005
Got my Gilded deck in the mail yesterday, ooh I love it. Can't wait for To Dreams.

Rhiannon SW	14 Mar 2005
I just bought the gilded yesterday. I smudged it and have been handling it and trying to study it. It took a while to click with my other 2 decks i read with so hoping it will just take some time. I look forward to working with it as I find it very beautiful.