is this visulisation ethical or not?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 03 Jun 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Maan	03 Jun 2003
hello All, i just read a visualisation, ist a beautifull one. Its about finding, atracting your soulemate. Your are suppose to see the threads that connect you from you solar plexus with other people. When you see those then you go out and find the thread that is connecting you with your soulmate and then softly pull the thread closer and closer to you..and finally you imagine that this person is hugging you. I love to do this visualisation but i have some questionmarks about the ethic's and dangers. Ofcourse you will have to leave out a discription of your soulmate..the person you are pulling toward you has to stay in the "shadows" so to spreak cause otherwise you influence and maybe pull towards you a person that is not ment fot you.Interfering with free will etc. But what as you soulmate is not born at the moment? is not on earth this life time with you? Is there actually something like a soulmate? or are there more "mister rights" for a person in their lifes? Anyway what do you think about this? Love Maan

azuremariposa	03 Jun 2003
whew! you wanna talk about soulmates?? ;) i can tell you what i believe, but i don't know how well it may blend w/your own belief system...so, here goes... i've read many different books dealing w/the idea of soulmates...everyone would love to think that there is one special person out there for them, wouldn't they? but, first you have to deal w/the concept of soulmates... a soulmate is supposed to be a soul who is a shard of the original soul or spirit (before the fall, before human incarnation came about)...when more than one piece or shard comes together, you become more "complete", closer to the original soul or spirit...i mean, everyone who has read sappy novels/poetry has heard the phrase "you complete me" right? ;) so, that's the general principal...but... what if there are many shards?? what if there are many pieces to this puzzle, what if you have more than one soulmate?? omg, what if you soulmate is not the sex you are attracted to!! :D heh...so, this brings us to... who says you have to love your soulmate as a lover? cannot two close friends be soulmates? does it have to lead to a romantic relationship once you find your soulmate?? my beliefs? there are many shards, many soulmates out there...i have met more than two of mine in this lifetime, so i speak from MY personal experience...now, i am currently "in love" w/(one of) my soulmate(s) and plan to spend the rest of my lifetime w/him...however this does not negate the love i have for the other two soulmates i have encountered...i love them with all my heart, b/c YES, they do complete me...each in their own way... now, as to the ethics of the exercise you outline...i dunno...if it truly does interfere w/the free will of the other person then i would have to think that there was something unethical about it...i tried working around it, but it just didn't seem to work out in the end...i don't know if it would make a difference if you simply planted a "seed" to be more OPEN to their arrival (since there might be karma there that would drive you away from your soulmate)...but i'm not really sure...that kinda goes beyond my realm of knowledge, and i'd hate to say "yea" or "nay" when my understanding is shaky at best... in either case, that's how i see it...my two cents...take 'em for what they're worth... many blessings (and good luck ;)) ~azure

Pollux	03 Jun 2003
I am inclined to think there are way more than just ONE soulmate, and since they're many there's a good likelihood some of them are reincarnated with you in this lifetime... ;) *LOL* Actually, it's the "mister right" part that makes the trick (at least in my view): there always will be a Mister Right for you in a certain moment of your life, there will always be someone whose influence on you and feelings do the greatest good and worth to your life. He's right cos he's exactly what you are supposed to get and tackle with in a determined phase of your life. As for ethics, I supposed you are not thinking of a specific man already present in your life as your soulmate, and thus trind to catch him... You seem to be speaking generally, of just "tracking him down" with the visualisation exercise, and this seems ok. Now this was just ramblings, since this is not part of my practices, yet... But I hope it makes sense for you! :D :*

Maan	03 Jun 2003
Thank you both for your replies. I don't know what to think of that whole soulmate word anyway. Indeed there could be more soumates and i actaully hope so. The way you see it Azuremariposa feels right. But i have never looked at it in this way. You gave me alot to think about and compile my own view on this. And Pollux you make a lot of sence ( as usual you know..you never ramble..that much ;) ) I believe that every man i had an relationship with was "mister right" for me at that moment. They might not have "mister right" for the rest of my life but in that particulair time he was and i had to learn from him. And as you say its this view that makes this visualisation ethical...that i did not think of it myself ;) But the easiest answers are always the hardest to see. Love Maan

wavebreaker	03 Jun 2003
I believe you can have many soul mates, and they don't necessarily have to be lovers. I actually think most of them are not lovers, but good friends, or maybe family members. As for your visualisation: I think that as long as you don't visualise a particular person, it would be ok. I suppose in that case it's more like an abstract visualisation, so you won't interfere with anyone's free will.

amyel	03 Jun 2003
I agree with Tarotlady. I don't think soulmates have to be lovers. And I also agree with azuremariposa: I think we can have more then one soulmate. My mom is a soulmate. We call each other "twin souls". She and my sister are my best friends. They aren't soulmates (with each other). I am their link. I have friends, I have a husband, but these are not my soul mates. I didn't want to mary a soul mate - and yes, I believe I had a soul-mate lover many years ago. Long after we broke up, we remained in contact, for many years, and lost contact for about 8. We found each other again, and helped each other a great deal during a difficult time in his life. Sadly, he died over a year ago in a car crash. I like to think we found each other again to a) put to rest that although we loved each other, we were not meant to be; and b) to help each through tough times. I truly believe that people come into your life for a reason. This doesn't mean they will all be soulmates. But that's ok: we all have something to give, receive and learn, every day of our lives.

WillieHewes	04 Jun 2003
I'd say the visualisation is ok as long as you're willing to let the soulmate go after you hug. I mean, you draw a person to you on the non-material level, hoping to draw them to you on the material level as well, right? It may be a problem as you said, but if you let them go afterwards, it shouldn't be. If they agree you should be together, they'll come back. If not, not. No harm done. I think.

XLCR	04 Jun 2003
is that soulmates are those you've befriended and spent numerous lifetimes with. You have agreed to come to together in this lifetime to teach and learn from one another. A Twin Flame shares the same soul as you. You were one and seperated to learn individual lessons. The yin and yang of spirit divided. Twin flames rarely come together (when they do it is because they are both very spiritually advanced and on their last incarnation on earth) they do not come together for romatic purposes (although thier love can be very intense) but to anchor Gods love on earth, to serve as an example of divine love. Still learning so if anyone has more info please share : )

Baby Owl	04 Jun 2003
I agree that we can find more than one soulmate in a lifetime. I finally married someone 30 years after we first fell in love and discussed marriage. In the meantime, we both married other people. I had recurring dreams about this person for 30 years. Maan, your description of the visualization interests me because in one of the dreams, this person and I approached each other in a garden at night and embraced. I felt that we were surrounded by glowing energy (not sexual) and seemed transported to another plane. It was not long after that dream that we re-connected with each other in "real life." I also agree that a soulmate does not have to be a romantic relationship. I had a best friend in kindergarten through high school that I still consider my best friend even though we only contact each other about once a year. She is my soulmate also.

little	04 Jun 2003
Call me a hopeless non-romantic (many people do), but I just don't think there's one soulmate out there for us. Instead, I think the bond that connects the spirits of two people is a bond that is built by the two of them, together. I think there are many people who could become my soulmate, with the work and joy of building that relationship.

XLCR	09 Jun 2003
There are numerous soulmates...they can be friends relatives employers youname it. But there is only one twin flame - one person who shares the same soul vibrationas you do. They say Jesus and mother Mary were twin flames...sent here not for romantic notions of love but as an example of divine love

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