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Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 09 Feb 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.



xeper  09 Feb 2002 
I have recently been doing alot of readings for myself concerning the same question. About one a day for the last three or four days. Aces come up alot, at least two per reading. Today I got three: Ace of Pentacles, Ace of Swords and Ace of Cups. I beleive I understand their signifigance in this particular reading, but overall, what do many Aces signify? My thoughts are that they signify powerfull potential on many levels in the situation I do the readings about. Its a romantic question, wondering where things will go with a certain fantastic new someone in my life. Am I just indulging in some wishfull thinking? After all, She and I do share a spiritual connection which has really overhwhelmed both of us in its intensity.

Also, I haven't gotten wands in any of the readings I have done concerning Her. Not a single one. The majority of cards are pentacles which kind of suprises me considering the meotional nature of the question. What do lack of wands signify?

Thanks for any and all answers. 


Pollux  09 Feb 2002 
Are you sure you are not conditioning your cards with your feelings?
I mena, are you keeping grounded, and are you careful no to affect the cards with "specific" vibes?
That's weird! Aces on and on... :-)

No wands - no passion.
You seem to live it like romance, so what's the matter? :)
The emotional side is well covered by the Ace of Cups: can't you see all that love well up? :-) 


Thirteen  09 Feb 2002 
Quote:
xeper (09 Feb, 2002 16:55):
My thoughts are that they signify powerfull potential on many levels in the situation I do the readings about.


As you surmise, Aces are about potential and about things being new. They're the idea, the energy, the spark of love or the new opportunity. Very exciting and fresh.

Thing to remember, though, is that Aces are not solid, or focused--just the "raw energy" of the suit. So one thing so many Aces might be telling you is that, eventually, you're going to need to aim that potential and put it to use, otherwise, it will dissapate. Put it this way, sooner or or later, that new special someone is going to ask you, "Where is this relationship going?" And you need to have an answer. Not that you need to start planning the wedding just yet ;) Enjoy the newness. But the cards might be advising you to start considering the next step.

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Also, I haven't gotten wands in any of the readings I have done concerning Her. Not a single one. The majority of cards are pentacles which kind of suprises me considering the meotional nature of the question. What do lack of wands signify?


As Pollox pointed out, it could mean, in the negative, that there's no spark of passion. In the positive, it could mean you're you're not likely to become obsessed with this person--or that this affair is not likley to burn itself out.

You do seem very romantically inclined, and so long as the Ace of Cups comes up, as Pollux pointed out, you're covered there. Pentacles might actually be a very good sign. It indicates that you feel lucky, that the relationship is grounded, humble, fair-minded. Too many wands in a relationship can indicate a lot of passion, but also a lot of arguments, shouting, dominance or attention issues.



Also, I haven't gotten wands in any of the readings I have done concerning Her. Not a single one. The majority of cards are pentacles which kind of suprises me considering the meotional nature of the question. What do lack of wands signify?

Thanks for any and all answers.[/quote] 


xeper  09 Feb 2002 
Quote:
Pollux (10 Feb, 2002 03:05):
Are you sure you are not conditioning your cards with your feelings?
I mena, are you keeping grounded, and are you careful no to affect the cards with "specific" vibes?
That's weird! Aces on and on... :-)

First, you guys are great, thanks for the input. I try to put everything I feel/think/flow concerning the situation/query into the cards everytime I use them. The hope being that the cumulative effect of so many vibes over so long will have the effect of the cards reflecting my own cyclic paradigm and thus be more effective for me personaly. I do readings only for myself with this deck. I don't think I have hit them with too many "specific" vibes though.

No wands - no passion.
You seem to live it like romance, so what's the matter? :)
The emotional side is well covered by the Ace of Cups: can't you see all that love well up? :-)


hmm how do discuss the reading without discussing the situation as well? Lets just say the physical attraction from my side isn't out of control. After all, to me its "all about" the foundations, spiritual connectivity, compatatbility as individuals, romantic attraction to the person rather than just the body...from these should flow the rest, including physical passion and NOT vice-versa. Maybe thats what the lack of wands signify?

Thanks again. 


MeeWah  09 Feb 2002 
Agree with Pollux & Thirteen.
Aces are all about potential & new beginnings. They are the raw, untamed energy of the suits & thus not in concrete form--yet. As the relationship begins to develop more fully, pip cards such as 2's or 3's & so on may express themselves as well as those of the Wands.
Good luck! 


xeper  09 Feb 2002 
As you surmise, Aces are about potential and about things being new. They're the idea, the energy, the spark of love or the new opportunity. Very exciting and fresh.

Thing to remember, though, is that Aces are not solid, or focused--just the "raw energy" of the suit. So one thing so many Aces might be telling you is that, eventually, you're going to need to aim that potential and put it to use, otherwise, it will dissapate. Put it this way, sooner or or later, that new special someone is going to ask you, "Where is this relationship going?" And you need to have an answer. Not that you need to start planning the wedding just yet ;) Enjoy the newness. But the cards might be advising you to start considering the next step.

To you too, you guys are great thanks so much for the input. I really should post the whole reading in the "readings" section.
The magician and the seven of cups in the reading I was refering to (my very last one) would definitely seem to reinforce the need to make a decision and ACT.

I am trying to balance all of these powerfull forces (as manifest by the Aces), all of which I have found in a relationship with a single person. I don't want to lose, negate or balance out any one of them. This seems to be a problem as indicated by the two of pentacles in the same reading. Last but not least the Outcome card is the five of swords. To me that is a warning that I will focus *too much* on action, on my Will to take this relationship to the next level. I will get what I want and will be pretty happy about it, but it will be a kind of hollow victory. Maybe I am reading too much into this, but the two defeated warriors on the 5 of S (rider deck) make me think of Cups and Pentacles being sorely defeated and outcompeted by the force represented by Swords. What do you think? Like I said, I should just post all of this in the "reading" section.



As Pollox pointed out, it could mean, in the negative, that there's no spark of passion. In the positive, it could mean you're you're not likely to become obsessed with this person--or that this affair is not likley to burn itself out.

Well there is definitely passion. But the situation is in fact so well balanced and for lack of better words "pure" that there isn't a danger of burnout. Far from it.


You do seem very romantically inclined, and so long as the Ace of Cups comes up, as Pollux pointed out, you're covered there. Pentacles might actually be a very good sign. It indicates that you feel lucky, that the relationship is grounded, humble, fair-minded. Too many wands in a relationship can indicate a lot of passion, but also a lot of arguments, shouting, dominance or attention issues.


Well, it is very well-grounded. Something to mention is that this is an "up in the air" kind of thing. She has been planning on moving to another state this summer (whole big long list of factors there), and she also finally has a chance to be with someone she has dreamt about for years (not me heh) but suddenly we met each other and her art is finally taking off localy. Now shes unsure of what to do. And I don't know where our relationship is going, can't even call it that yet. Thus the reading. Don't want to influence the situation too much to my own ends (swords) because it must be her willed decision and not a sideroad of her life path.
Thats why the 5 of swords as the outcome bothers me. Like I can get what I want through willed action but at the expense of the other stuff(cups/pentacles) . Five of cups is involved in the same spread as well. ughh.

One final thing the meaning of which eludes me...my first reading regarding this situation posited the magician as the outcome. He has appeared a few more times in other readings on the same issue and each time he is a step or two back. Like "The Magician in retrograde" or something.

Thanks so much, again, for taking the time to answer. I understand that this one is looong and if you can't respond its ok. 


MeeWah  09 Feb 2002 
It seems you have a good understanding of interpretation as well as insight on the situation.
5-Swords could refer to various things, such as fear & doubt; second-guessing; taking unfair advantage.
It is difficult (also not a good idea) to interpret various cards of a throw out of context.
If you would like other opinions on the possibilities, post the last throw in Your Readings. 


Pollux  10 Feb 2002 
A good advice is... don't read to much in it!
Knowing things beforehand could make you feel puzzled and incapable of acting when necessary.
And, as you point out yourself, the whole thing could just get messed up irretrievably just because you were TOO conscious, TOO aware of things going on, and therefore acted TOO much, destroying the balance you're so obsedded with (you'll excuse me this word, but you really sound obsedded with keeping things under control. Is it love we're talking about, or business? :-) ).
Try to live thing as they come, tarot should only move you toward a certain behaviour when there are serious problems to deal with. And I don't think you're that desperate :-)

You may well look in the Pool, but your actions must be consequencial all the same.
If you use Tarots, well, it's ok. But remember to be natural... :-) 


Scorpion  10 Feb 2002 
Hi, Xeper!

That IS a lot of Aces and I'm sure they must be telling you something! The question is - what? To me, it's interesting that you focus on the "missing" Ace - I think three's enough to cope with in one go! I don't think you need to be worried about the apparent lack of passion - to me, it's more than compensated for by the Ace of Pentacles: Pentacles like their earthly (and earthy!) pleasures. I tend to agree more with the view (expressed by Thirteen, I think) that Wands indicate a more competitive and sometimes more argumentative outlook: I wouldn't mind a lack of wands in my life sometimes! It seems you "click" on the emotional/spiritual, intellectual and worldly levels and it's up to you to grab that potential and make something of it.

Pollux does have a point, of course, that there's always a danger of reading too much into it. You say you're doing daily readings: I remember someone commenting elsewhere that reading too frequently didn't give things time to fall into place - I guess that's in the sense of the previous reading hardly sinking in before the next one's there to be assimilated.

I'd also like to pick up on another point Pollux makes - you do seem keen to keep control over the situation: perhaps the Ace of Wands isn't there because you're allowing it to be: passion requires a certain amount of surrendering of the self, and in the circumstances it would be understandable if you weren't ready for it yet.

I think MeeWah's suggestion is excellent - if you feel you can post the most recent spread, it might give more clues. 


xeper  10 Feb 2002 
Quote:
Pollux (10 Feb, 2002 22:02):
A good advice is... don't read to much in it!
Knowing things beforehand could make you feel puzzled and incapable of acting when necessary.
And, as you point out yourself, the whole thing could just get messed up irretrievably just because you were TOO conscious, TOO aware of things going on, and therefore acted TOO much, destroying the balance you're so obsedded with (you'll excuse me this word, but you really sound obsedded with keeping things under control. Is it love we're talking about, or business? :-) ).
Try to live thing as they come, tarot should only move you toward a certain behaviour when there are serious problems to deal with. And I don't think you're that desperate :-)

You may well look in the Pool, but your actions must be consequencial all the same.
If you use Tarots, well, it's ok. But remember to be natural... :-)


Well, I do have the tendency to look really deep into things anyways. When they are things that are important to me I look a little deeper with a little more passion. To be honest these readings are some of the first I've done in awhile. I tend to be an "emergency reader" the past few years. That last reading was the last I've done on this issue so far and it was a few days ago. The reason I am so nutty about it is because the cards really seemed to resonate something important that time.

And with the control thing...it is all happening naturaly but when you have these incredibly powerfull emotional forces just snatch you up like leaves in the wind and you both are blown along for a couple weeks and then she says, "I need to take a couple days to get things figured out"...well in the absence of having her there to communicate from you look other places for clues to whats going on. I guess its like I feel like we both found "the one" but she feels so obligated to others that she likely might not go my way. It does make me feel a little desperate I guess. I didn't do any readings yesterday, just wrote some mad poetry instead :-D

Thanks for the advice, I'd probably do well to heed it. 


xeper  10 Feb 2002 
Quote:
LouiQ (11 Feb, 2002 01:27):
Hi, Xeper!

That IS a lot of Aces and I'm sure they must be telling you something! The question is - what? To me, it's interesting that you focus on the "missing" Ace - I think three's enough to cope with in one go! I don't think you need to be worried about the apparent lack of passion - to me, it's more than compensated for by the Ace of Pentacles: Pentacles like their earthly (and earthy!) pleasures. I tend to agree more with the view (expressed by Thirteen, I think) that Wands indicate a more competitive and sometimes more argumentative outlook: I wouldn't mind a lack of wands in my life sometimes! It seems you "click" on the emotional/spiritual, intellectual and worldly levels and it's up to you to grab that potential and make something of it.

Pollux does have a point, of course, that there's always a danger of reading too much into it. You say you're doing daily readings: I remember someone commenting elsewhere that reading too frequently didn't give things time to fall into place - I guess that's in the sense of the previous reading hardly sinking in before the next one's there to be assimilated.

I'd also like to pick up on another point Pollux makes - you do seem keen to keep control over the situation: perhaps the Ace of Wands isn't there because you're allowing it to be: passion requires a certain amount of surrendering of the self, and in the circumstances it would be understandable if you weren't ready for it yet.

I think MeeWah's suggestion is excellent - if you feel you can post the most recent spread, it might give more clues.


The lack of Wands is really bothering me at this point. I was just woindering why they weren't there. At all.

And ya, I absolutely want to grab whats there and make something of it. Its just that my time may be running out. She leaves for a different state in a few months and the more time goes by the more obligated is to go. This weekend will go a long way twords what she actuall decides to do, how strong the commitments are that she makes. So I wanted to get as firm a grasp on everything as possible.

If this is just the very begining (and not the end!) of our relationship, I can only imagine where things will go, what kind of intensity will be manifest later. I really want to see what those *Aces* turn into and I guess Its not toaly up to me to control that process.

I haven't done another reading on the subject for a couple days and might wait until monday to do another, giving things some time to fall into place. I think I will post that last spread.

Thanks again. 


purplelady  23 Feb 2002 
Maybe the lack of wands means that either you , or her , lack fire element in your horoscope? Also , I see it's only been 2 days since this thread was began. I'm not sure how many spreads you've thrown , or just one? But I go through phases all the time where I may get lots of one suit but not another, eventually it Does shift and change. It may just be where you are at right now. Or where the energies of your spread or question were at at the time. 


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