Stregaverde
Not much to add here, but at least in modern Italian, GRAVIDANZA does indeed mean pregnancy.
Interesting thread. Viva Italia!
Interesting thread. Viva Italia!
MM ~ I couldn't get this link to work, but you are correct, the Dog, House, and others tend to be common to a good many decks.Cerulean said:Some gypsy or Lenormand cards seem to be similar.
English fortune-telling cards, some have the clouds (passing misfortune, cloudyness) or dog (fidelity) from the sibilla and lenormand cards:
http://www.wopc.co.uk/tarot/divination.html
Yes, they are related. Though I don't think anyone has found the "Ur" or "proto" deck. Here is a site where you can compare oracle decks: http://www.intuitive-soul.com/galleryGiordani Berti classifies the Sibilla and Lenormand together:
http://translate.google.com/transla...refox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&sa=G
A dog is a dog is a dog! The variations come from the individual cartomancer. I would tend to interpret the Sibilla Della Zingara dog slightly differently since it is a St. Bernard, a search and rescue dog, rather than the dog outside someones home that is usually pictured. But there is no set rule. There are hardly any books on the subject and none at all in English, but in my correspondence with people in European countries who have taken courses, etc., it all comes down to: free associate! Look at the card and several meanings will come to mind. Then look at the neighboring cards. That should give you a clue which meaning to go with.If you see the two online lenormand links below, I notice a house and some similar images...in my Italian sibilla cards, I seemed to recognize the 'casa' or 'house', dog for fideility and clouds images...I noticed my Dreams cards from Lo Scarabeo, my Lenormand cards from Lo Scarabeo and Antica Sibilla from Lo Scarabeo had similar meanings for the house, clouds and dog images...(I posted a thread on similar meanings here).
Those are head inset Lenormand Petit Jeu! Instead of playing card images they are all people cards. I got a deck on ebay (They're old cigarette cards put out by Carreras) but I haven't worked with them much. They are quite small and beautiful. though.
Jeu Du Destin Antique is on the site I linked you to. It's very different from Lenormand or Sibilla. Some of it is from mythology, like Grand Jeu. Jeu Du Destin is under "Personal Favorite Decks" Click on the deck, then click on the individual cards for a closer look. BB, StellaI may be wrong and mixing things up...I remember seeing Jeu de Destiny cards as well, but they might not be the same...
Myrrha said:Oh, I see. Well, I am curious about these decks and the Lenormand decks.... Do they actually work well for readings?
Myrrha