Cerulean
Lenormamd as retranslated to Peru and Naipes/Hombre
in Books and Media section, I typed up the relevant meanings under the Book title according to the author.
The spread shared was different, but named Cross of St Andres, if I am not mistaken.
The Latin suited minors of the so called LeNormand instructions for Naipes seem close to circa 1910 Waite meanings, in descriptions, so checking 20th century Naipes with above lists and spreads may be useful to see sources.
The 19th century tarot card written meaning "according to Etteilla" by GD authors might rely on Levi and Papus or D.oucet (according to Grimaud). Lismon and other occult meaning collection and compilers took the latest style of design and may have consistently not updated meanings, but attributed them to different authors.
For instance, Lismon, aka Simon Bloquel (sp) may have a Grand Etteilla with Julia Orsini one decade and a note another decade that may or may not give another popular name to the same meanings. The meanings also of their playing card instructions might be attributed to LeNormand, but it might be more accurate to say the playing card games in the LePetit LeNormand style of a particular decade?
And the good thread findings suggest to me this was a popular form of salon game.
Perhaps Madame LeNormamd's meanings may have had several authors, perhaps?
in Books and Media section, I typed up the relevant meanings under the Book title according to the author.
The spread shared was different, but named Cross of St Andres, if I am not mistaken.
The Latin suited minors of the so called LeNormand instructions for Naipes seem close to circa 1910 Waite meanings, in descriptions, so checking 20th century Naipes with above lists and spreads may be useful to see sources.
The 19th century tarot card written meaning "according to Etteilla" by GD authors might rely on Levi and Papus or D.oucet (according to Grimaud). Lismon and other occult meaning collection and compilers took the latest style of design and may have consistently not updated meanings, but attributed them to different authors.
For instance, Lismon, aka Simon Bloquel (sp) may have a Grand Etteilla with Julia Orsini one decade and a note another decade that may or may not give another popular name to the same meanings. The meanings also of their playing card instructions might be attributed to LeNormand, but it might be more accurate to say the playing card games in the LePetit LeNormand style of a particular decade?
And the good thread findings suggest to me this was a popular form of salon game.
Perhaps Madame LeNormamd's meanings may have had several authors, perhaps?