2 decks the exact same card appeared (1 card draw)

Crystal Blue

I am curious, what did you make of that same card coming up over and over, besides it making you realize that it's not random? Do you think it was a specific message, or perhaps a specific entity making itself known to you?

The reason I ask is because this same thing happened to me when I got my Druid Animal Oracle about 4 years ago. I was new to reading and very skeptical as to whether it was just a bunch of nonsense. I kept drawing the same card over and over and it just about made me crazy, because it wasn't a very 'exciting' card to me, I didn't even care for the image, and I couldn't make a lot of sense of the meaning. Still wrongly trying to approach something intuitive from a scientific standpoint, I even made a spreadsheet for my daily draws and that Sow card was coming up 34% of the time at one point.

Once I realized there was no way this was random, I got a bit spooked, and then for a while was worried there was some urgent message I wasn't understanding. The card is all about 'generosity, nourishment, and discovery', abundance and fertility, and the reversed meaning in the book tells you to reconsider your self image, it seems to be directed at being shallow and vain which is so NOT me (I later came to think that for me this translates to not jumping to conclusions and judging situations without all the facts). For months it just about drove me insane trying to puzzle it out...

I started researching Sow/Pig meanings in Celtic and other mythology. I learned about Cerridwen and other associations. And eventually, I exhausted myself and stopped trying to bulldoze my way to an answer... and when I did, something happened.

I started welcoming the sow when I turned over the card and saw her yet again. She became a personality to me, and I guess all that research in my mind formed her into this Great Mother entity for me. She sort of became 'grandmother sow' who would pop up when I needed comfort or propping up, or reversed when I needed to be reminded not to be harshly judgmental. There was this strong feeling of motherly comfort that came to be associated with that card.

When I decided that I really wanted to learn Tarot, and put my Druid Animal Oracle deck on the back burner for a while, I kind of missed seeing her all the time, until I realized one day that she was The Empress in that deck. Then, the other day when I was working with my new Wildwood Tarot, I started specifically thinking of her as I was shuffling, wondering if she'd be able to come through the Green Woman on the new deck. I was disappointed when I pulled my three cards and she wasn't there, but I did get a really insightful answer to a problem in my life that I wasn't really asking about, but was weighing on my mind. As I was about to put the cards away, I cut the deck on impulse and turned the top card over. Green Woman. :)

Do you think that specific intelligences make themselves known and form relationships to you through cards? There's still the hardheaded scientific side of me that whispers this is all in my head, fighting my intuition every step of the way, but my intuition says there is 'someone' there and that's a wonderful, but kind of unnerving, thought.

Oh, I know exactly what you mean, Wolfspider. The Emperor shows up so much for me that I now say hello! When I shuffle, I tend to cut the deck and turn it so that I see the card on the bottom of the stack in my right hand. He's there so often when I shuffle - every day and every time - or he'll jump out, or make sure I see him. It used to flip me out a little - it was very obvious he was showing up MUCH more often than any other card, ever - but I'm now quite used to it and enjoy seeing him there.

He doesn't show up in readings overly often - although I did a spread about messages from your Spirit Guide, and boom - there he was. He definitely feels like a guide to me - and I relate to him that way. He reminds me to make real what I'm seeing or wanting to create - prods me almost. I use the Shadowscapes deck, and he's almost a bit of a Green man figure - not as old or as stern as the Emperor in my RWS deck - quite handsome actually! But when I got the Gilded deck, I went to look through the cards, and that Emperor looks like Caesar to me, and immediately I "felt" my "friend" the Emperor make a face - like he'd eaten something that tasted awful. Made me laugh. He definitely decided he wanted to be one of the Kings in that deck - they kept showing up over and over and over as I'd shuffle - it was really funny - I found myself talking to the cards and asking where the Emperor was - and he showed up next cut - as if to say, fine, fine - then went right back to the Kings. For me, it's very comforting that he's there - he keeps me very grounded and personally, I'm glad he sticks around!

I can imagine your rational mind would want to find a way to explain away the connection you feel to the guide/spirit/energy coming through in the cards - but you might want to ask yourself why you'd want to. Sounds like a lovely connection to me - one that comforts you and brings you a sense of peacefulness. Not such a bad thing to have around you, eh?
 

SunChariot

I am curious, what did you make of that same card coming up over and over, besides it making you realize that it's not random? Do you think it was a specific message, or perhaps a specific entity making itself known to you?

The reason I ask is because this same thing happened to me when I got my Druid Animal Oracle about 4 years ago. I was new to reading and very skeptical as to whether it was just a bunch of nonsense. I kept drawing the same card over and over and it just about made me crazy, because it wasn't a very 'exciting' card to me, I didn't even care for the image, and I couldn't make a lot of sense of the meaning. Still wrongly trying to approach something intuitive from a scientific standpoint, I even made a spreadsheet for my daily draws and that Sow card was coming up 34% of the time at one point.

Once I realized there was no way this was random, I got a bit spooked, and then for a while was worried there was some urgent message I wasn't understanding. The card is all about 'generosity, nourishment, and discovery', abundance and fertility, and the reversed meaning in the book tells you to reconsider your self image, it seems to be directed at being shallow and vain which is so NOT me (I later came to think that for me this translates to not jumping to conclusions and judging situations without all the facts). For months it just about drove me insane trying to puzzle it out...

I started researching Sow/Pig meanings in Celtic and other mythology. I learned about Cerridwen and other associations. And eventually, I exhausted myself and stopped trying to bulldoze my way to an answer... and when I did, something happened.

I started welcoming the sow when I turned over the card and saw her yet again. She became a personality to me, and I guess all that research in my mind formed her into this Great Mother entity for me. She sort of became 'grandmother sow' who would pop up when I needed comfort or propping up, or reversed when I needed to be reminded not to be harshly judgmental. There was this strong feeling of motherly comfort that came to be associated with that card.

When I decided that I really wanted to learn Tarot, and put my Druid Animal Oracle deck on the back burner for a while, I kind of missed seeing her all the time, until I realized one day that she was The Empress in that deck. Then, the other day when I was working with my new Wildwood Tarot, I started specifically thinking of her as I was shuffling, wondering if she'd be able to come through the Green Woman on the new deck. I was disappointed when I pulled my three cards and she wasn't there, but I did get a really insightful answer to a problem in my life that I wasn't really asking about, but was weighing on my mind. As I was about to put the cards away, I cut the deck on impulse and turned the top card over. Green Woman. :)

Do you think that specific intelligences make themselves known and form relationships to you through cards? There's still the hardheaded scientific side of me that whispers this is all in my head, fighting my intuition every step of the way, but my intuition says there is 'someone' there and that's a wonderful, but kind of unnerving, thought.

Actually, at the time that I kept getting The Sun card, I did not really understand yet what it was trying to tell me. I was SO new to Tarot! LOL I was like a month into learning it. But it did definitely strike me as a remarkable thing even then. And I could see that the same card coming up in answer to questions on the same topic like 100 times in a row was clearly proof to me that the cards were NOT coming up randomly and there was an intelligence behind the answers. So many times in a row simply could not be coincidence. That was the beginning of my understanding and faith in Tarot.

At first I simply thought that intellegence as "the universe" or more succinctly put: G-d. I did not believe in angels or faeries at the time, so ...just G-d. Over time I got The Faeries' Oracle by Brian Froud and have some amazing and specacular experiences with that that taught me to beleive in faeries. So when working with that particular deck I came to believe that yes each of the cards represented a different energy/faerie who we could talk with and who would answer.

A while later I had an amazing reading with my Lovers" Path Tarot and that experience blossomed and led me believe in angels, and that beleive is a large part of who I am now.

So let;s say that now when I do most readings, I ask for the answer to come from my angels of spirit guides. And that is exactly where I beleive they come from. I do know the name of one of my angels and one of my spirit guides. I ha a reading done once where te reader found out their names and passed on their messages for me and sketched their likenesses for me. The sketches are framed now in my bedroom where I see them every day.

So yes in general I believe my answers come directly from my angels and/or spirit guides and that my ansewrs,as such are full of goodness and light. So yes if the same card comes up repeatedly, I generally see it as a message that my angels want me to see. I already feel like i know the source I am talking to when reading, so it is just a matter of seing what the message is.

At times though if I do a reading with a faerie deck I stil feel it is that faerie speaking to me.

Babs
 

La Force

I am curious, what did you make of that same card coming up over and over, besides it making you realize that it's not random? Do you think it was a specific message, or perhaps a specific entity making itself known to you?

Do you think that specific intelligences make themselves known and form relationships to you through cards? There's still the hardheaded scientific side of me that whispers this is all in my head, fighting my intuition every step of the way, but my intuition says there is 'someone' there and that's a wonderful, but kind of unnerving, thought.

In my personal experiences with repeating cards (now this can span over days or weeks) I have always paid extra attention to, that yes it a message that I must heed. This is normal for how tarot works to have cards appear in readings over and over. this is not random.

However when you get an experience in a matter of the exact same card appearing using 2 different decks in 15min. now that is a smack, and not random.

I feel that each deck has it's own purpose/personality, which can be taken into forms. each of us have different aspects of ourselves some are more dominant than others ( I call these split personalities) each deck has different artwork, which triggers these different aspects of ourselves (draws that side of us out) IE: You may have a deck that is perfect for love relationships, which strongly connects to your love personality. as so forth. This is not saying you have a split personality disorder. Therefore when you have this connection your intelligence or spirit guide, angel can speak to you more clearly through that aspect of your personality. you may have more than 1 (intelligence etc) communicating through the cards ( or different decks) to reach and connect to that particular personality. These personalities are deep within our unconscious. They can even be viewed as our ancestors through our DNA.