UniversalSeeker
Well, I don't know how to high light. The first one worked, but not the second. Sorry.
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Birth Cards
WhiteRaven
All I know is that my soul and personality is the Chariot....which fits quite well. I believe this is Mary Greer's method and it works well with me. So my life path, from what I can understand is the same.....7. And I'm in a Hanged Man year....or if reduced lower....the Empress.
UniversalSeeker
White Raven
Under the system I am studying the Tower (16) would the other pillar in your pair. And the energies intermingle between the two. But it is just one more system for possible information.
I have a copy of Mary Greer's book discussing Birth Cards in the mail as we speak. I am excited to look at that also.
Thanks.
US
Under the system I am studying the Tower (16) would the other pillar in your pair. And the energies intermingle between the two. But it is just one more system for possible information.
I have a copy of Mary Greer's book discussing Birth Cards in the mail as we speak. I am excited to look at that also.
Thanks.
US
WhiteRaven
UniversalSeeker said:
Yes, the Tower is what is called my "teacher" this lifetime....aren't I the lucky one...LOL
sharpchick
I think my birthdate fits your criteria.
November 13, 1958
11
13
19
58
=101= 10 + 1 = 11 = 2
Is that right?
November 13, 1958
11
13
19
58
=101= 10 + 1 = 11 = 2
Is that right?
sharpchick
Your birth card interpretation was incredibly accurate for me. Your presentation of traits associated with the cards was very balanced, and I thank you very much for your effort.
Major Tom
UniversalSeeker said:
Weren't you planning on presenting the information you've put together as your reflections or your understanding, rather than as truth or fact? When presenting reflections, no one can call you wrong.
UniversalSeeker said:
sharpchick said:
Doesn't seem very likely that you'd be dead wrong, especially with the amount of effort you've put in.
Thanks also for sharing your information with me via pm - I'm impressed with your efforts.Why don't you post what you've written - either here on in one of the WHO threads?
UniversalSeeker
Ok, here is my stab at this set of birth cards:
The Birth Cards are a snap shot of the boundaries of what our life experiences
will be in this incarnation. They can give us important information on what we are working on, thereby, arming us with the knowledge needed to deal with life's stumbling blocks. Each card has positive and negative energies and we can be anywhere within this energy field at any given time. At one point we may be essentially positive, at another point pretty much negative, while at other times positive in one arena and negative in another. When we are peaceful the energies are interacting in a positive manner and the things the cards have in common are ruling, but when there seems to be another voice in our head fighting with us at every turn (and you can't figure out where the heck it is coming from) then we may be experiencing the aspects of the cards that are in conflict. It is about mood or an overview of that which has previously been hidden or unnoticed.
Birth Cards do not have the detail of a natal chart but help in readings for others as well as ourselves, to know some of the issues brought in with each life on this journey.
Look at it this way: two pieces of luggage have been recovered from the unclaimed baggage area at the airport. The owners cannot be located and at last the two bags are opened in order to see if they would render clues of who the owners might be. This is what they find:
The first bag contains a Bible, a church newsletter, and an invitation to speak at the National Convention of World Wide Ministries, but at the bottom of the bag is a magazine on bondage, an address for a web site for porn and several photos that would shock most people. You would know right away that this person has a major conflict.
The second bag has a family photo album of children, grandchildren and husband and wife .The husband has just died according to a news article found therein. There are several pictures of a man and woman, most with big smiles on their faces. There is also a newspaper article with the picture of a young dancer, claiming she will be the next Ginger Rogers. There is a journal indicating the wife was thankful for all that she had been given but longed for the dancing career she gave up. Yes, there are conflicts, but not of the magnitude of the minister above.
The more things the Birth Cards have in common, the less conflict in one's life, the more the cards have in opposition, the more conflict.
So, back to your BirthCards:
JUSTICE AND THE HIGH PRIESTESS.
Justice is the third Universal Law, the Law of Karma and is ruled by Libra. This card is also referred
to in the Hermetic Tarot as "Daughter of the Lord of Truth". Whatever energies she set into motion, wisely or unwisely must return to her. Justice brings us face to face with the Law of Cause and Effect. You must understand the idea that if you focus your thoughts on something, that eventually it will work its way into your life, it can give you financial success, true love, or leave you in an abusive relationship or even homeless. So please be aware of this power of mind over matter, thought creates. What do you want, what are you afraid of: keep thinking about it and it will be setting on your door step. It may be time to go on a "thought diet".
Justice is constantly concerned with balance; you want to find the exact middle, nothing to the left, nothing to the right. You want equilibrium harmony and you are constantly looking for ways to make adjustments in order to find this precision. You are refined and love beauty and culture. You can be very charming and like to function in an atmosphere of serenity. What you really desire is inner peace something you rarely find because of the perfection you require. Peace can only be found when the Moon helps you to accept everything just as it is. She knows it is ok. She does not judge and Justice judges everything. With this conflict you will find your self trying to figure out clever ways to accept the situation and still obtain balance.
The High Priestess is ruled by the Moon, and understands the ebb and flow of all cycles.
She represents your basic emotional response to life and the manner in which you instinctively react to your surroundings. It allows you to feel safe, secure and protected; to give and receive; to nurture; to achieve a sense of belonging and a secure personal identity. Justice, however, needs to evaluate, think about the final outcome, and look for any unfairness associated with any and every subject. It does not feel safe until every last detail has been scrutinized.
The High Priestess brings deductive reasoning into our lives. If you do "this", then "that" will happen, but do "that", and something different will happen. She has great knowledge and knows the secrets of mankind. She helps bring equilibrium between the conscious and the subconscious. The moon is the personal subconscious. She is also receptive femininity and controls the involuntary functions and rhythms of the body. Therefore you love patterns and habits but can have huge swings in mood, from ecstatic to despairing. You are pulled and torn when you get depressed
due to the Moons influence when it moves from a beautiful brilliant light to the most intense darkness. At these times you can hardly stand to be around yourself, but good old Justice will be there tugging you back to the middle ground that he demands.
However, this is a great marriage of thought, because when you are contemplating some action in your Justice frame of mind, the Priestess looks at what the karmic repercussions will be and point these out while Justice will try to find the correct path to create harmony and balance.
The Priestess loves to be alone; you love quiet time coupled with an unquenchable thirst for knowledge you could become reclusive. If you spend too much time alone you can become lonely and sorrowful and begin to fear the outside world. Again, Justice wanting balance comes to the rescue deciding the thing you need is to be sociable, maybe want to give a big party because she knows that this will pull you back to the middle ground. Then as a counter balance, the Moon keeps Justice from going nuts trying to be the perfect gracious host and end up feeling and acting in an insincere manner.
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The High Priestess' esoteric meaning is Wisdom-Folly; she possesses the wisdom of time, has eternal memory and is ruler of the unconscious. She has dominion over the inaccessible and
uncharted depths of the mind. She also can be evil or wicked in extreme negative cases. Her higher goal however is to transcend the confines of ego and material attachment
Justice's esoteric meaning is Work: So you feel you should work, work, work all the time and the High Priestess is saying "I want to transcend all this hard work and sit down and read". This may be one of the conflicts you are dealing with daily.
You will get very excited about a project, but if you cannot make it perfect, if anything goes wrong, you will tend to drop the whole project and go in search of a new endeavor. In other words you may have a hard time completing a lot of the things you start, but it really does not bother you.
You certainly don't like for people to tell you what to do, you want to do it your way. But with Justice wanting inner peace, many times you give in to a situation in order to keep peace and calm but then resent the decision as you feel you are compromising yourself.
For people with Justice energy, anything less than perfect is an irritant. Justice is totally uncompromising and its symbols are swords and scales. Sitting on her throne she is guarding the entrance (behind the veil) to the temple of perfect balance and the secret of perfection. Justice can have a very tough time in the world. The Priestess is also sitting on a throne and feels she is guarding the entrance, to the temple of final knowledge, including the secrets of life, death and rebirth. The Justice energy is tempered by the Priestess as she is accepting and inclusive, the Moon takes everything in stride because everything is acceptable.
Justice tends to spend a lot of time thinking about love and relationships, but they want
those relationships to be perfect but they never are. They have an ideal vision of what marriage
should be; therefore, they tend to expect too much from marriage or a partner.
The interesting thing here is that partnerships are very important to Justice as they need the other person to "balance" their life (the other side of the scale). The High Priestess, on the one hand,
would rather be alone anyway. Just give her books and study and she is happy. So if you are married or have a partner they will not be able to figure out if you want to be with them or not. And you're wondering why they can't just do things the "right" way, they should know exactly what would make you happy act accordingly.
It is hard for Justice to feel anger, hatred, and jealousy because these emotions just do not
fit into her image of how she is suppose to feel. But you examine everything for flaws in order to arrive at the perfect center and discard everything that upsets equilibrium. The Priestess knows the secret of everything and realizes it is perfect just as it is a fact which allows her to be accepting of all things. So one includes everything and one excludes almost everything. The inner turmoil comes in when Justice discards something or someone and the Priestess knows there is really nothing wrong with it/them to begin with and you then feel confused and possibly even guilty.
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To sum it up: If you are on the higher end of the vibrational scale you are honest, sympathetic, romantic, sociable, diplomatic, and have physic abilities. You have an inquisitive mind that has accumulated vast amounts of knowledge and your exceptional memory would allow you easy access to that wisdom. You are someone your friends and family would share their secrets with as they know you are going to keep them confidential. Your stamina and imagination combined with your dedication to high ideals and fairness drive you to find the uncompromising truth in all situations. Your perfectionism is moderated by your intuition and inner wisdom. Combine all of these aptitudes with your poise, charm, congeniality, discriminating taste, and independence, and you probably make everyone around you insecure or envious!
However, if you are living in the lower vibrational scale you may be mysterious, deceptive, prejudiced, abusive, and insincere attitudes which would give you your wish to be left alone. People would feel you are unapproachable and some would even fear you. They might thing you are the Wicked Witch of the West. You might become delusional in your loneliness and isolation and feel there is no justice in the world. You would feel that life had let you down and would be filled with resentment and frustration. Your imbalance would make you fear life in general. You certainly could not make a commitment to anyone else. You would become dishonest, tactless and would withdraw into even further secretiveness and mysteriousness.
This gives the two extremes of these two energies and you may can see truths in both of them, but remember there is a long way between the lowest vibration and the highest vibration. Most of us
move up and down, but never experience the extremes. We might have brief glimpses which are
to quick to have a lasting impact on us.
I am going to go back and refine this, and it must be proof read, but I wanted to see if these two cards describe you at all. This is very time consuming and it will take me several months to do all 12 birth cards and I don't know if they even work, so I need an honest assessment and feed back is critical. Thanks.
The Birth Cards are a snap shot of the boundaries of what our life experiences
will be in this incarnation. They can give us important information on what we are working on, thereby, arming us with the knowledge needed to deal with life's stumbling blocks. Each card has positive and negative energies and we can be anywhere within this energy field at any given time. At one point we may be essentially positive, at another point pretty much negative, while at other times positive in one arena and negative in another. When we are peaceful the energies are interacting in a positive manner and the things the cards have in common are ruling, but when there seems to be another voice in our head fighting with us at every turn (and you can't figure out where the heck it is coming from) then we may be experiencing the aspects of the cards that are in conflict. It is about mood or an overview of that which has previously been hidden or unnoticed.
Birth Cards do not have the detail of a natal chart but help in readings for others as well as ourselves, to know some of the issues brought in with each life on this journey.
Look at it this way: two pieces of luggage have been recovered from the unclaimed baggage area at the airport. The owners cannot be located and at last the two bags are opened in order to see if they would render clues of who the owners might be. This is what they find:
The first bag contains a Bible, a church newsletter, and an invitation to speak at the National Convention of World Wide Ministries, but at the bottom of the bag is a magazine on bondage, an address for a web site for porn and several photos that would shock most people. You would know right away that this person has a major conflict.
The second bag has a family photo album of children, grandchildren and husband and wife .The husband has just died according to a news article found therein. There are several pictures of a man and woman, most with big smiles on their faces. There is also a newspaper article with the picture of a young dancer, claiming she will be the next Ginger Rogers. There is a journal indicating the wife was thankful for all that she had been given but longed for the dancing career she gave up. Yes, there are conflicts, but not of the magnitude of the minister above.
The more things the Birth Cards have in common, the less conflict in one's life, the more the cards have in opposition, the more conflict.
So, back to your BirthCards:
JUSTICE AND THE HIGH PRIESTESS.
Justice is the third Universal Law, the Law of Karma and is ruled by Libra. This card is also referred
to in the Hermetic Tarot as "Daughter of the Lord of Truth". Whatever energies she set into motion, wisely or unwisely must return to her. Justice brings us face to face with the Law of Cause and Effect. You must understand the idea that if you focus your thoughts on something, that eventually it will work its way into your life, it can give you financial success, true love, or leave you in an abusive relationship or even homeless. So please be aware of this power of mind over matter, thought creates. What do you want, what are you afraid of: keep thinking about it and it will be setting on your door step. It may be time to go on a "thought diet".
Justice is constantly concerned with balance; you want to find the exact middle, nothing to the left, nothing to the right. You want equilibrium harmony and you are constantly looking for ways to make adjustments in order to find this precision. You are refined and love beauty and culture. You can be very charming and like to function in an atmosphere of serenity. What you really desire is inner peace something you rarely find because of the perfection you require. Peace can only be found when the Moon helps you to accept everything just as it is. She knows it is ok. She does not judge and Justice judges everything. With this conflict you will find your self trying to figure out clever ways to accept the situation and still obtain balance.
The High Priestess is ruled by the Moon, and understands the ebb and flow of all cycles.
She represents your basic emotional response to life and the manner in which you instinctively react to your surroundings. It allows you to feel safe, secure and protected; to give and receive; to nurture; to achieve a sense of belonging and a secure personal identity. Justice, however, needs to evaluate, think about the final outcome, and look for any unfairness associated with any and every subject. It does not feel safe until every last detail has been scrutinized.
The High Priestess brings deductive reasoning into our lives. If you do "this", then "that" will happen, but do "that", and something different will happen. She has great knowledge and knows the secrets of mankind. She helps bring equilibrium between the conscious and the subconscious. The moon is the personal subconscious. She is also receptive femininity and controls the involuntary functions and rhythms of the body. Therefore you love patterns and habits but can have huge swings in mood, from ecstatic to despairing. You are pulled and torn when you get depressed
due to the Moons influence when it moves from a beautiful brilliant light to the most intense darkness. At these times you can hardly stand to be around yourself, but good old Justice will be there tugging you back to the middle ground that he demands.
However, this is a great marriage of thought, because when you are contemplating some action in your Justice frame of mind, the Priestess looks at what the karmic repercussions will be and point these out while Justice will try to find the correct path to create harmony and balance.
The Priestess loves to be alone; you love quiet time coupled with an unquenchable thirst for knowledge you could become reclusive. If you spend too much time alone you can become lonely and sorrowful and begin to fear the outside world. Again, Justice wanting balance comes to the rescue deciding the thing you need is to be sociable, maybe want to give a big party because she knows that this will pull you back to the middle ground. Then as a counter balance, the Moon keeps Justice from going nuts trying to be the perfect gracious host and end up feeling and acting in an insincere manner.
.
The High Priestess' esoteric meaning is Wisdom-Folly; she possesses the wisdom of time, has eternal memory and is ruler of the unconscious. She has dominion over the inaccessible and
uncharted depths of the mind. She also can be evil or wicked in extreme negative cases. Her higher goal however is to transcend the confines of ego and material attachment
Justice's esoteric meaning is Work: So you feel you should work, work, work all the time and the High Priestess is saying "I want to transcend all this hard work and sit down and read". This may be one of the conflicts you are dealing with daily.
You will get very excited about a project, but if you cannot make it perfect, if anything goes wrong, you will tend to drop the whole project and go in search of a new endeavor. In other words you may have a hard time completing a lot of the things you start, but it really does not bother you.
You certainly don't like for people to tell you what to do, you want to do it your way. But with Justice wanting inner peace, many times you give in to a situation in order to keep peace and calm but then resent the decision as you feel you are compromising yourself.
For people with Justice energy, anything less than perfect is an irritant. Justice is totally uncompromising and its symbols are swords and scales. Sitting on her throne she is guarding the entrance (behind the veil) to the temple of perfect balance and the secret of perfection. Justice can have a very tough time in the world. The Priestess is also sitting on a throne and feels she is guarding the entrance, to the temple of final knowledge, including the secrets of life, death and rebirth. The Justice energy is tempered by the Priestess as she is accepting and inclusive, the Moon takes everything in stride because everything is acceptable.
Justice tends to spend a lot of time thinking about love and relationships, but they want
those relationships to be perfect but they never are. They have an ideal vision of what marriage
should be; therefore, they tend to expect too much from marriage or a partner.
The interesting thing here is that partnerships are very important to Justice as they need the other person to "balance" their life (the other side of the scale). The High Priestess, on the one hand,
would rather be alone anyway. Just give her books and study and she is happy. So if you are married or have a partner they will not be able to figure out if you want to be with them or not. And you're wondering why they can't just do things the "right" way, they should know exactly what would make you happy act accordingly.
It is hard for Justice to feel anger, hatred, and jealousy because these emotions just do not
fit into her image of how she is suppose to feel. But you examine everything for flaws in order to arrive at the perfect center and discard everything that upsets equilibrium. The Priestess knows the secret of everything and realizes it is perfect just as it is a fact which allows her to be accepting of all things. So one includes everything and one excludes almost everything. The inner turmoil comes in when Justice discards something or someone and the Priestess knows there is really nothing wrong with it/them to begin with and you then feel confused and possibly even guilty.
.
To sum it up: If you are on the higher end of the vibrational scale you are honest, sympathetic, romantic, sociable, diplomatic, and have physic abilities. You have an inquisitive mind that has accumulated vast amounts of knowledge and your exceptional memory would allow you easy access to that wisdom. You are someone your friends and family would share their secrets with as they know you are going to keep them confidential. Your stamina and imagination combined with your dedication to high ideals and fairness drive you to find the uncompromising truth in all situations. Your perfectionism is moderated by your intuition and inner wisdom. Combine all of these aptitudes with your poise, charm, congeniality, discriminating taste, and independence, and you probably make everyone around you insecure or envious!
However, if you are living in the lower vibrational scale you may be mysterious, deceptive, prejudiced, abusive, and insincere attitudes which would give you your wish to be left alone. People would feel you are unapproachable and some would even fear you. They might thing you are the Wicked Witch of the West. You might become delusional in your loneliness and isolation and feel there is no justice in the world. You would feel that life had let you down and would be filled with resentment and frustration. Your imbalance would make you fear life in general. You certainly could not make a commitment to anyone else. You would become dishonest, tactless and would withdraw into even further secretiveness and mysteriousness.
This gives the two extremes of these two energies and you may can see truths in both of them, but remember there is a long way between the lowest vibration and the highest vibration. Most of us
move up and down, but never experience the extremes. We might have brief glimpses which are
to quick to have a lasting impact on us.
I am going to go back and refine this, and it must be proof read, but I wanted to see if these two cards describe you at all. This is very time consuming and it will take me several months to do all 12 birth cards and I don't know if they even work, so I need an honest assessment and feed back is critical. Thanks.
UniversalSeeker
Did I scare everyone away????
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sharpchick
Not at all. . . I suspect we are all in awe. . .
I know I was. And aside from the fact that your interpretation really pegged me, I found the expansive discussion of traits of both trumps to be very informative. I have journalled a lot of this. Hope you don't mind.
I know I was. And aside from the fact that your interpretation really pegged me, I found the expansive discussion of traits of both trumps to be very informative. I have journalled a lot of this. Hope you don't mind.
