How much do own actions affect tarot outcomes?

Valoisina

I have a strong goal in my mind of which to achieve, I have to get out my comfort zone and do new things actively.

Every once in a while I have consulted tarot to see wheter I reach my goal.
So far, all the outcomes have always been very positive.
In real life, I have also worked towards my goal actively doing the things that take me closer to what I want to achive.

For the last several weeks I haven't been able to actively do much considering "the goal." I have been busy with other things and also sick that has taken my energy levels down. Now when I consult the tarot, all the outcomes have been negative, basically telling "no, your goal won't happen."

This has been confusing.

I only today started to wonder if there is a correlation of what I did actively before (to reach my goal) and what I haven't been doing lately (not much to reach my goal) that affects the outcome in my readings.

I am one of those who believe that rather tarot being a tool of our intuition, that the answers come from our "helpers" or our higher self. I also somewhat believe in destiny. Because of this it feels strange to me that if I temporarily stop working towards my goal, it would immediately show as a negative outcome in my readings.

What do you think?
 

Michael Sternbach

I would think that you have actually somewhat lost your way without really realizing it, and the cards are reflecting that. Look inside yourself. Can you honestly say that you are still deeply motivated? Do you still fully believe in your goal, and in your ability to achieve it? If yes, when do you think will you finally set less important things aside and truly dedicate yourself to it again? Little is predetermined, we are moving through probabilites all the time, and the cards are showing.
 

RiverRunsDeep

I only today started to wonder if there is a correlation of what I did actively before (to reach my goal) and what I haven't been doing lately (not much to reach my goal) that affects the outcome in my readings.

When using the cards for divination, your statement is exactly what tarot is all about, IMO: revealing the way we create our own future through our daily actions.

Personally, I find that my readings are a strong reflection of my actions at the current moment, so I don't think your readings are strange or confusing at all. You have admitted that you've been sick and busy with other things, so it's no surprise that the cards reflect that. I don't think the cards are referring to an unescapable negative outcome, or that you will never reach your goal; only that it isn't likely to happen in the near future if things continue as they are. When your health improves and you begin dedicating more time towards your goal, no doubt your reading will once again reflect that progress.
 

francesca713

For me and the way I personally like to read, I don't read the future as predetermined. When I'm working with a spread or a card that somehow is relevant for the future, I think about it in terms of what I want for the future, or what I'm scared for, or something along the lines of, "if I continued down this path, what would happen?" So your readings could just be showing you that: if you're continuing down a path of maybe not being as goal-oriented, you wouldn't be as likely to obtain the results that you're aiming for.
 

Grizabella

For me and the way I personally like to read, I don't read the future as predetermined. When I'm working with a spread or a card that somehow is relevant for the future, I think about it in terms of what I want for the future, or what I'm scared for, or something along the lines of, "if I continued down this path, what would happen?" So your readings could just be showing you that: if you're continuing down a path of maybe not being as goal-oriented, you wouldn't be as likely to obtain the results that you're aiming for.

I agree. The cards are telling you what the results will be if you continue as you've been right now. Once you feel more well and get back to the pursuit of your dreams, they'll also change to reflect that, I'm sure.
 

nisaba

I have a strong goal in my mind of which to achieve, I have to get out my comfort zone and do new things actively.

Every once in a while I have consulted tarot to see wheter I reach my goal.
So far, all the outcomes have always been very positive.
In real life, I have also worked towards my goal actively doing the things that take me closer to what I want to achive.

For the last several weeks I haven't been able to actively do much considering "the goal." I have been busy with other things and also sick that has taken my energy levels down. Now when I consult the tarot, all the outcomes have been negative, basically telling "no, your goal won't happen."

This has been confusing.

Well, no it really isn't confusing.

Tarot shows you what is happening. As long as you are actively working towards your goal, the cards were telling you it was gong to happen. Sometimes if you actively work towards something it may not happen. In your case, the cards reflected a reality that at that stage, given what you were doing at that stage, things WERE going to work out for you.

When you stopped actively working towards it, the cards told you it wasn't going to happen. It is vary rare that something positive happens in your life if you don't work towards it, so the cards reflected the changed reality that unless you start working towards it again, there is little chance it will work out for you.

I think you were expecting Tarot to make your life happen. Tarot doesn't do that. Tarot just shows what is likely and probable if you don't change direction. So while you were still working towards your goals, Tarot showed the success that lay in front of you. When you stopped working towards your goals Tarot reflected your changed reality, and quite rightly gave you a warning that failure was likely in your future if you stayed on this path.

My day-job *is* being a public reader. I get a lot of people who rock up saying things like "do you read my mind" and "can you tell when people are going to die" and "can you tell everything in our futures". I tell them, and I'm telling you now:-

No.

It doesn't work like that.

The more effort you put into your life, the better the rewards you will get from life.

A reader I used to work with put it into these terms: "A Tarot reading is a snapshot, a photograph of how you and your future look like NOW. If you don't like it, make an effort to change it."

Another reader in the same venue (me, when I was a lot younger), used to say: "Having a Tarot reading is like jumping into a fast-flowing river. If you make no changes, you will be washed downstream. If you don't like what you see downstream, all you have to do is make a big effort to start swimming against the current."

Nowdays, I say to these people: Tarot shows you the trends in your life. It shows you your opportunities, and how to make the most of them and make sure you don't miss them. It shows you also the risks and pitfalls you face, and how to minimise the harm the will cause you, or avoid them altogether. But YOU are responsible for listening to the reading, and taking advice on what you need to do to improve your life."


Several years ago I had a client. I don't remember the original reading, but apparently I turned up the Chariot card in the health area of his spread and pulled a timing card, and told him "in about seven months, you are likely to have an accident in your car. Be careful about driving, and cars in general." He poo-pooed what I said (his wife had insisted on him having the reading, and he really didn't believe anything I told him). But he made an effort to look me up a year later and every year since, because seven months to the day after that reading, he was talking to his friend. His friend was sitting in the car, and he was standing near it, chatting. Standing too near it, as it happens, and when his friend drove away he drove over both his feet, breaking many bones. He immediately remembered the reading, and thought I was a brilliant reader. I really wasn't. If I had been a better reader, I would have pointed out to him that he needed to be careful. A better reader would have had him being cautious about cars, and NOT standing so close to them that they would roll over both his feet! A better reader would have got him to prevent the accident happening at all. It was down to him whether he got injured or not, and as a reader I failed him. Nonetheless, after that, he always comes to me in July or August for his "annual checkup reading", and recommends me to everyone. It wasn't set in stone that he was going to be injured by a car in that time-frame! If he had remembered the reading and been extra-careful, his outcomes would have been much better, and he probably wouldn't have been injured.

And the same with you. Tarot showed you a positive future while you were working to make it positive, and when you stopped putting effort in, it showed you what would happen because you stopped putting effort in.
 

VGimlet

It wasn't set in stone that he was going to be injured by a car in that time-frame! If he had remembered the reading and been extra-careful, his outcomes would have been much better, and he probably wouldn't have been injured.

Exactly this. Nisaba worded it far better than what I was going to say.

Our actions can always change things. Which is why tarot can be such a nice heads-up.

No, you won't achieve your goal unless you start working toward it again, and the cards reflect that moment right now.
 

SunChariot

I have a strong goal in my mind of which to achieve, I have to get out my comfort zone and do new things actively.

Every once in a while I have consulted tarot to see wheter I reach my goal.
So far, all the outcomes have always been very positive.
In real life, I have also worked towards my goal actively doing the things that take me closer to what I want to achive.

For the last several weeks I haven't been able to actively do much considering "the goal." I have been busy with other things and also sick that has taken my energy levels down. Now when I consult the tarot, all the outcomes have been negative, basically telling "no, your goal won't happen."

This has been confusing.

I only today started to wonder if there is a correlation of what I did actively before (to reach my goal) and what I haven't been doing lately (not much to reach my goal) that affects the outcome in my readings.

I am one of those who believe that rather tarot being a tool of our intuition, that the answers come from our "helpers" or our higher self. I also somewhat believe in destiny. Because of this it feels strange to me that if I temporarily stop working towards my goal, it would immediately show as a negative outcome in my readings.

What do you think?

What I think is that our thoughts and actions have the same effect on our future if we have had a reading or not. My belief is that while some things are fated/destined to happen for the most part they are pretty few and far between. That for the most part we have free will. And the thoughts and feelings we choose (we choose our thoughts and the thoughts we choose lead for specific feelings) create our outcomes. Even what we choose to visualize and imagine as our futures leads to different outcomes.

Tarot readings work because we tend to be predictable and follow the same patterns over and over. But if we choose to break out of the mold that can change the future, even ater a reading is done. Or even if we just change our thoughts because of what we see in a reading, that can change our feelings and beliefs and those can change the future from the one the reading predicted.

I tend to like readings on the future best that tell me HOW to get to the future I want, not just where I am heading atm. I tend to ask what I can do to get to where I want to go, what steps I can take to lead me there.

But let's say that if your cards are now saying that you can't get to where you want to go from where you are now. For some reason if that door has closed, here is what I would do from that point. My belief is that things are always set in life to work out for the best. If a door has closed that means it is not the best option for you any longer. If it were you could still achieve it.

For me that means I would ask the cards if that door is closed now what option remains that would lead to something even better for you in your future. When you find it ask how to get there from where you are now. And also what you were meant to learn from the experience that can help enhance you as a person.

I don't believe in coincidence. If you were feeling too ill to work on what you had meant to, maybe you were not meant to. Maybe you were just meant to let that option go as something better is coming and if you had pursued it you would have lost out on the better thing and not been available to it when it showed up.

I think for the most part we create our future through or thoughts of feelings, but also that we are guided in some ways. We can't see all the implications of the future, but I believe there are forces that can that guide us away from what is not the best for us. If that makes sense. :grin:

Babs
 

danieljuk

say we do a tarot reading about if we will ever marry? people often ask that a lot when they are single in threads here and it's a really broad general future question but it's meaningful for the person. If the tarot is really positive about the future and we do nothing, we never socialise or meet new people, what will happen? the future in the reading can never come true!

So we do the tarot reading and we take action to work towards a goal and what we want but it's not an easy straight line to the goal, it has curves and goes up and down and all over the place. It's not always easy to keep going towards it.

I think our actions do affect outcomes but I also think some core things are destined for us! Whatever we do, some things are fated in my belief but we don't always know these things and we have to take action ourselves to be sure! Action is something we can personally do, we can't just wait for fate to happen, we have to increase our best chances of what we want :)

A suggestion about your readings Valoisina, you are asking about the outcome. What about taking one of your positive readings and setting an intention (in your mind or write it down or however you want to do it), this is the goal or outcome I want! Then use the tarot to ask what do I need to do now to work towards that? Your action towards the goal has gone backwards a little bit recently, well pull a card about what you have to do now go to work towards it. I think it would be much more positive for you to do it that way, ask the tarot for advice about what to do and what will help you towards it. Repeat "what do I need to do now?" every time you need to know next or things have changed, but don't keep asking about the outcome. The tarot could start throwing up conflicting messages etc etc. Good luck with working towards your goal :)