Lorenzo de Medici / Inventory

kwaw

Huck said:
The "real" Trionfo of Bacchus was a real famous trionfo in Florence during one of the carnevals, likely in the 70's.

Likely?

You sure he wasn't describing the Sforza's fireplace;)

Itself a copy of a sarcophagus showing Bacchus and Ariadne, source for model of Eve in Floretine baptiste doors (where we see also the polygonal halo'ed virtues).

Just spent some time translating Lorenzo's triumph of Bacchus and Ariadne, but then discover you have a translation already:

http://trionfi.com/0/m/13/
 

Huck

Yes, "likely", we've no really confirming data, for instance something like a date. Two days ago I found a note in the web, that the poem was made 1491. Nobody could have imagined this ... I don't trust the source, of course, but in such a case you even can't trust the "in the 70's". Perhaps a writing error.
 

Huck

A specific Trionfo, famous during the time of Lorenzo de Medici during a carnival is not given, when we have Bacchus used as a motif of art somewhere long before.

We've a description of disguising as Greek Gods in the carnival 1433, but it doesn't state that it was the Trionfo of Demorgone with 21 chariots (which happened 1565/66). Also it doesn't exclude, that in later times (after 1433) carnival was occasionally prohibited in Ferrara.

Bachus is the god of vine. Likely they did drink vine all the time. Carnival was occasionally prohibited and developed Trionfi forms.
 

Rosanne

It seems that Lorenzo made use of the Potenze to hold the Carnivals. The Potenze (meaning 'Powers') were festive Brigades/ occupational associations like from the Textile industry. They acted like the Gangs of New York lol! In 1463 there was a new company of Potenze called the Company of the Star that Lorenzo used. It was a Potenze that were involved in the Tourney and Festival in 1435 For the Explusion of Albizzi from Florence. These Companies had marked parts of Florence like their own 'patches' they had there own Saints and built tabernacles- Like the Red City Company had Saint Lawrence? in their Patches.
It may have been the Potenze of the Red City who manned the 14 Triumphal stage sets for Pope Leo X in 1515 (9 + 4 groups 4 riding horses/, 9 Marching each group with its own stage) The Company of the Star did the 1475 Joust for Lorenzo's brother. So it is possible that cards are the 'figureheads' of these Companies. This was Lorenzo's idea- like Rome's motto bread and Circuses- Textile and Carnival?? Keep the people happy. I had no idea how powerful these Companies were. They took over the neighbourhood and elected Kings and Queens etc.
http://books.google.com/books?id=CF...ts=rrEwGQC-31&sig=2YGDVREZd8PIqvuP83TfMK8WLgI
 

Rosanne

Maybe this Urban history of Florence could be a fruitful research for the images of Tarot. It seems that the Potenze has only been looked at in the last two decades according to this Jstor site. Makes sense in the weird way the hand painted figures on cards were costumed. Wish I could read Italian- but there seem to be some good books out there.
This is called Society and Religion in Renaissance Florence
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0018-246X(198603)29%3A1%3C213%3ASARIRF%3E2.0.CO%3B2-F
Oh Jstor links do not seem to work properly!
~Rosanne
 

Rosanne

HYere is an extract of a review by Ann Moyer of a book about Florence social history.
Guilds not only participated in the running of the city; they and other corporate bodies developed and maintained charitable institutions of various kinds. Feeding the poor and indigent, housing foundlings and orphans, and caring for the sick were among the tasks supported by groups of Florentines. The groups and their charitable projects were often housed in buildings of some significance, as Philip Gavitt recounts. The urban poor themselves had fewer resources to leave architectural marks upon the urban fabric; many of their divisions of space left traces that are harder now to discern. By the late fifteenth century, the city was mapped not only into the parishes and militia districts known by their banners, but also festival brigades known as "potenze" that left marks of their boundaries still identifiable on the walls of city buildings. These groups, which drew their membership mainly from lower social and income levels, celebrated May Day and other holidays, including Carnival, and also made pilgrimages to local shrines. They went into decline in the early seventeenth century; David Rosenthal attributes the cause primarily to the era's religious reform impulses. They were able to develop their alternate mapping of the city, divided among these various festival "kingdoms," especially because each of the city's individual neighborhoods and official gonfaloni included residents at all social levels, rather than clustering them into solidly wealthy or poor sections. Neighborhood identities remained strong throughout the era, though Nicholas Eckstein notes that by the sixteenth century they competed with other, more city-wide types of community identity that arose especially with that era's increasing degree of social stratification. Other uses of space have also left only the faintest of traces. The Wool Guild organized the itineraries or visiting wool merchants during the fourteenth century by channeling them into specific routes and itineraries with visits to the guild hall and relevant clusters of shops. Thus they orchestrated to a significant degree the Florentine experience of these visitors to the city. The aim, according to Adrienne Atwell, was to promote foreign trade by presenting a uniform, impressive, and organized experience to foreign traders.

House towers may have ceased to define the environs of Florence's big families by the fourteenth century, but real estate remained a way to express identity, as seen in the term "house" (casa) to refer both to family and to dwelling. Florentines developed a variety of legal incentives that encouraged ownership and investment in private residences. Palazzo-building accelerated already in the fourteenth century and really hit its stride in the fifteenth and finally stabilized as a style that persisted long afterwards. Their owners filled these very substantial residences with items not only for personal comfort but also for display, contributing to the development of both artistic and artisanal production in the city. Michael Lingohr, Roger Crum, and John Paoletti discuss the development of these spaces and the issues attached to those who were permitted, or invited, to see and to visit them. Domestic spaces were of course a particularly female realm. The growing use of this space by visitors in search of favor for positions and other preferments from powerful families provided an arena in which the women of these powerful families, above all the Medici, could exercise political and social patronage. Street life was more clearly dominated by men, though women of lower classes faced fewer restrictions on their movement, and those of the major houses certainly managed to circulate through the city. Natalie Tomas and Guido Ruggiero discuss these issues of gendered space, the latter reminding us of the powers of jest and ridicule in displays of dominance among Florentine men.
 

Rosanne

here is another mention of the Potenze from a book about Ridolfo Ghirladajo
Ridolfo, like his father, regarded art rather as a means of livelihood than with any aesthetic feelings, and this is probably the reason of his never attaining true excellence. His “bottega” was really a shop where any one might order a work of art, or of artisanship, and he gave as much attention to painting a banner for a procession as to composing an altar-piece. He had a great many assistants, whom he called on for help in various undertakings. They assisted him to prepare the Medici Halls for the reception of Pope Leo X., and later for the marriages of Giuliano and Lorenzo, not disdaining to paint scenes for the dramas which were then given. He painted banners, and designed costumes for the processions of the “potenze,” a festive company, the origin of which is uncertain, but dating certainly from the Middle Ages. Each quarter of the city had an emperor, lords, and dignitaries, each of whom carried his banner or emblazonment. Grand processions, tournaments, and feasts were held once a year, on S. John’s Day, by the potenze.
Here is a painting of Saint Lawrence the patron Saint of the Red City Potenze (as well as other potenze Companies.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21561/21561-h/images/illus177.jpg
In the colour image, which I cannot seem to link the vestment is sky blue like the Charles V1 card Le Pape.(The Pope in Blue is Pope Sixtus the 2nd associated with Saint Lawrence)
 

Rosanne

Thanks Kwaw! Those threads of yours are fascinating- I could never seem to find them through the search function.
Is this direction one that has been discussed much? The Potenze and Tarot?
It is very like the pageants of York given by the guilds neh? ~Rosanne