Thanks Huck, I felt that as well with the World Card, same reasons as you. as you can see there are contradictions with this deck ( Cary Yale ) as to naming and placing of the cards. the more you go into the symbols the more you'll see it.
I find the bottom picture you posted to look similar to the Judgment cards of today... don't you. the way the Angel is depicted.
So far we have established:
The World as truly being - Fame = Prudence
Faith - is Faith - she depicts cup and cross
so here we are left with
Hope = ? (Anchor,the Sun, rope, etc ) = ?
Charity card = ? ( Mirror, child, ) = ?
I came across this, in reasearching, just thought to throw past you. how ever when I follow the symbols on each card it all works out, mind you I am missing 1 card only. I will highlight in bold in the QUOTE. anyways just thought to throw out another concept of possibility.
Keep in mind I'm only using the original Cards, I did however add 2 reconstructed cards Queen of Cups and the King of Arrow/Batons in the ended. for these were originally missing.
We Know that we Have 11 original Majors (as we call them) however when I take the female page of Arrows/Baton and place her up in the Majors we now have 12, which then gives you 4 higher cards from the kings in each suit. Why do choose to use the Female Page of Batons/Arrows, because she is depicted completely different than the other cards in her suit, I have explained in another thread about this. (she has dew droplets on her dress, not Fountains, and her hand is raised in a benediction (style) in the tarot decks of today there are 2 cards that show dew droplets Tower and the Moon.
The whole suit of swords with the added trumps higher than the king of the suit is complete ( eagles ) Emperor, Empress, Fortitude/strength, the World/Fame
The whole suit of coins following the white doves/coin symbols is complete with the addition 4 trumps higher than the king. Male Knight of Coins , Chariot, Judgement (White doves ) only these cards have this symbol. Now the Male page of coins is questionable due to it being a reconstructed card. by Scapini
and same with the suite of Arrows/Batons. Now in this suit, I followed the symbols and the 16 Gods, Death = the Vice Wrath, Now here I place the Charity card, only if I go by what S. Kaplan calls the Mirror.
Silver torch or censor, Vesta the Virgin = Female Page of Arrow/Batons, Hope - Anchor ( 3 cards have 3 objects/symbols = same color Grey/Black ) as well as Metal objects ( scythe, anchor silver torch/censor ) no other cards in the deck have this.
in the suit of cups/ pleasures is where I am missing just 1 card ( Page or higher trump than the king ) Cere = Lovers, Bacchus - Male Page of Cups, Venus as the Female page of Cups ( Why did I chooses these - because their cups are much larger and don't match any other cups in the whole deck, they are different. Faith
Tom's examination of Micholino's deck as previously
described in Kaplan is much more extensive as
it describes an *accompanying book*:
Marziano da Tortona served as secretary to
duke Filippo Maria Visconti of Milan. But
that perhaps gives the wrong impression of
him. He was a scholar, Filippo's tutor, and
specialist in astrology (or astronomy, as the
two disciplines had not yet gone their
separate ways in the 15th century). Some time
around 1415 (date not entirely certain, but
not later than 1420), the young duke (he was
in his early twenties, having assumed the
title in 1412 at the age of 20) directed
Marziano to devise a card game according to
the duke's instructions.
Instead of the ordinary suits of swords,
coins, staves, and cups, the new deck was
to have suits representing virtues, riches,
virginities, and pleasures. The suit signs
were appropriate birds: eagles, phoenixes,
turtles (turtledoves?), and doves. Each suit
also had four cards higher than kings, depicted
as classical deities. This was apparently an
early exploration into the idea of "trumps",
because whereas the regular suit cards have
no power over cards of different suits, the
sixteen deities have an internal ordering that
bypasses their suit assignments and determines
which card wins over others.
The amazing thing is that Marziano actually
wrote a book to go with this deck of cards. In
the book, he describes the structure of the deck,
and then goes into great detail about each of the
classical deities, what they represent, and how
they are depicted on the cards. This was the first
ever "companion book" for a deck of cards, and it
is sitting in the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris
to this day! Not surprisingly, it does not give
divinatory meanings. But interestingly, neither
does it gives the rules of a card game. The focus
is on the allegorical meaning of the pictures and
their proper ranking.
But Marziano didn't make the cards himself. They
were turned over to a noted artist, Michelino da
Besozzo, who apparently made cards of extraordinary
beauty. In 1449, after the duke had died, a Venetian
captain named Marcello (in alliance with Francesco
Sforza in the attempt to capture Milan) heard of the
enormous value of these cards and "acquired" them
from the duke's estate and had them sent to the
queen of Lorraine as a present. He was also
determined to get the book along with them, which
he did. The cards apparently have not survived.
these appear to be the same as the previous reference
to the 16 cards referred to by Mr. P. Durrieu in 1911
in *Michelino de Besozzo et les relations entre l'art
italien et l'art francais*. apparently this book only
recently came to light? has anyone seen it or know
if a translation of its content has been made?
Added: Huck you might also want to look in on the so called Judgment card. I feel it is really the justice card, what is interesting is the 2 angels, so far I have found this they are depicting Virtue and Vice ( Yellow/pink wings = Envy. which is the Vice angel. the Virtue angel green wings = virtue offers the "Straight and Narrow" Vice tempts with an inviting, but dangerous world of passionate desire. Also on the trumpet is the white dove (gold) flag, I unable to see what is on the black/silver flag of the trumpet. ? The Tower has a person in one of the windows, also the Vice that is in the card resemble the vice in the Hope card. Now I see the Tombs, as really the Baths of those days (Roman baths)
views the Giotto frescoes that depict the virtues
and vices
these:
Virtues
Prudence
Fortitude
Temperance
Justice
Faith
Charity
Hope
Vice
Folly
Inconstancy
Wrath
Injustice
Infidelity
Envy
Despair
as suggestive of some of the Major Arcana
cards in the tarot pack. A definite connection
between Giotto and the early Visconti is well
established....