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This thread is inspired from the "Pamelas A, B, C, D, E .... " thread.
After looking at the monogram comparison pic provided by roppo, I am not really convinced.
I took to my copy of Pam C and, as I do not have a Pam A, compared it to the decks with the same line drawings as Pam A.
That is: The PKT, the Blue Box RWS produces by Rider, the early yellow Box RWS by US-Games.
I also have a copy of De Laurence "The Key To The Tarot - Oracles behind the veil"
This copy is from 1916 and has yellow pictures with exactly the same line drawings you can find in all the above mentioned deck.
As the printing of this book is quite clear and provides pretty fine line drawings I choose these pictures to make the comparison.
After attentively comparing the monograms I must say that I am unable to decide wether A or B/C monograms have any difference in terms of better or one being more original than the other, or one set being from Pamela self and the other from a bad copyist.
To me in both sets of monograms there are some well made and some less well made.
Also I can hardly imagine a copyist being so dumb that he is not able to recognise Pams monogram.
After having a look to some cards, even a child with some sense for design is able to recognise it.
Also can a copist work on the design of 78 cards, makes a good job there, be able to artisticly reproduce Pams monogram on some cards and completely fails on other cards?
AFter all these copyist were professional and the surely knew their job!
There must be other reason for some not so well done monogram or for the fact that they are completely different!
I can see that the monogram on the death card is almost not there, but one could also interprete this as intentional.
To me I find it very difficult to make confident conclusions from the design of the monogram.
I can only conclude that they are different and even if sometimes it seems as if one could be the copy of the other, sometimes they are simply completely different in the same way BTW as the pictures line drawings of Pam B/C are different from the line drawings of Pam A!
I scanned the monograms of all majors and I upload them in this thread as I am curious to hear your comments on this.
There are two pictures on each attached pic.
On the left from the Pam C, on the right from the De Laurence book.
These are quite high resolution scans (600 dpi) in order to see the details.
The number in the name of each jpg correspond to the number of the cards: 01 for the Magician, 02 for the high priestess and so on.
I must spread the pics on several post in order to post them all.
Best regards
After looking at the monogram comparison pic provided by roppo, I am not really convinced.
I took to my copy of Pam C and, as I do not have a Pam A, compared it to the decks with the same line drawings as Pam A.
That is: The PKT, the Blue Box RWS produces by Rider, the early yellow Box RWS by US-Games.
I also have a copy of De Laurence "The Key To The Tarot - Oracles behind the veil"
This copy is from 1916 and has yellow pictures with exactly the same line drawings you can find in all the above mentioned deck.
As the printing of this book is quite clear and provides pretty fine line drawings I choose these pictures to make the comparison.
After attentively comparing the monograms I must say that I am unable to decide wether A or B/C monograms have any difference in terms of better or one being more original than the other, or one set being from Pamela self and the other from a bad copyist.
To me in both sets of monograms there are some well made and some less well made.
Also I can hardly imagine a copyist being so dumb that he is not able to recognise Pams monogram.
After having a look to some cards, even a child with some sense for design is able to recognise it.
Also can a copist work on the design of 78 cards, makes a good job there, be able to artisticly reproduce Pams monogram on some cards and completely fails on other cards?
AFter all these copyist were professional and the surely knew their job!
There must be other reason for some not so well done monogram or for the fact that they are completely different!
I can see that the monogram on the death card is almost not there, but one could also interprete this as intentional.
To me I find it very difficult to make confident conclusions from the design of the monogram.
I can only conclude that they are different and even if sometimes it seems as if one could be the copy of the other, sometimes they are simply completely different in the same way BTW as the pictures line drawings of Pam B/C are different from the line drawings of Pam A!
I scanned the monograms of all majors and I upload them in this thread as I am curious to hear your comments on this.
There are two pictures on each attached pic.
On the left from the Pam C, on the right from the De Laurence book.
These are quite high resolution scans (600 dpi) in order to see the details.
The number in the name of each jpg correspond to the number of the cards: 01 for the Magician, 02 for the high priestess and so on.
I must spread the pics on several post in order to post them all.
Best regards