dadsnook2000
It seems like an appropriate time to move forward in our discussions and sharing about the planets, specifically how Sun and Jupiter work together. This post will set some context for our discussion. And perhaps Wizzle will contribute another series of comments about our "lucky" planet.
Jupiter and Saturn are often refered to as "social" planets, the three outer planets as "generational" or "universal" or whatever, while the innter planets are typically referred to as "personal" planets. This is something that I have always disagreed with. Symbols tend to express themselves in various ways, most often they express themselves in every way possible. I have seen "personal" planets represent "social" or "mundane/worldly" affairs -- take the 9-11 airplane attack on the World Trade Center where Mercury was on the Ascendant signifying a "message." Not a personal message but a political world-wide message. On the other hand I recently did a chart for someone who had Pluto on the Ascendant degree. This person (also due to other factors) had an intense, magnetic, powerful influence upon another person -- more so than you would normally see in a chart having Pluto on/near the Ascendant. This was not a worldly situation, a social situation, but a very powerful personal level situation.
So, in these discussions to follow, we should be open to seeing, considering and hearing about a variety of situations and actions that span the whole range of experiences.
Together, Sun and Jupiter tend to frame our general health and attitude toward the outside world, bringing a sunny and happy, contented-but-wanting-more attitude to life, and actions such that they bring recognition and opportunities to the person who strongly embodies this Sun-Jupiter relationship.
Jupiter itself has been described as "bountiful, lucky, happy, expanding, greatness, wealth, business success -- as well as over-indulgence, greed, excessiveness. These commonly used words seem to be "personal" in nature and not social or mundane/worldly, don't they? Is this my bias or is this reflective of an earlier point that needs to be more carefully appreciated? Is Jupiter "social", "business", "cultural", or "personal" -- or all of them?
In my next post we will start our exploration of Sun-Jupiter, how the Sun can be seen to infuse and direct Jupiter's promises. We can again use the Phase Relationship Method in addition to any Aspects that some might have, and we will certainly want to look at folding in the Houses that are occupied by these two in order to see how Jupiter's promise works out. So, start reviewing your charts, see what aspects you might have between Sun and Jupiter, consider what houses in your chart that these two occupy, see if you can determine the Phase Relationship they have. And, consider whether Jupiter seems to express itself in your chart on a 1) Personal level, 2) Social, Business level, 3) a Worldly/Mundane/Generational level.
Dave
Jupiter and Saturn are often refered to as "social" planets, the three outer planets as "generational" or "universal" or whatever, while the innter planets are typically referred to as "personal" planets. This is something that I have always disagreed with. Symbols tend to express themselves in various ways, most often they express themselves in every way possible. I have seen "personal" planets represent "social" or "mundane/worldly" affairs -- take the 9-11 airplane attack on the World Trade Center where Mercury was on the Ascendant signifying a "message." Not a personal message but a political world-wide message. On the other hand I recently did a chart for someone who had Pluto on the Ascendant degree. This person (also due to other factors) had an intense, magnetic, powerful influence upon another person -- more so than you would normally see in a chart having Pluto on/near the Ascendant. This was not a worldly situation, a social situation, but a very powerful personal level situation.
So, in these discussions to follow, we should be open to seeing, considering and hearing about a variety of situations and actions that span the whole range of experiences.
Together, Sun and Jupiter tend to frame our general health and attitude toward the outside world, bringing a sunny and happy, contented-but-wanting-more attitude to life, and actions such that they bring recognition and opportunities to the person who strongly embodies this Sun-Jupiter relationship.
Jupiter itself has been described as "bountiful, lucky, happy, expanding, greatness, wealth, business success -- as well as over-indulgence, greed, excessiveness. These commonly used words seem to be "personal" in nature and not social or mundane/worldly, don't they? Is this my bias or is this reflective of an earlier point that needs to be more carefully appreciated? Is Jupiter "social", "business", "cultural", or "personal" -- or all of them?
In my next post we will start our exploration of Sun-Jupiter, how the Sun can be seen to infuse and direct Jupiter's promises. We can again use the Phase Relationship Method in addition to any Aspects that some might have, and we will certainly want to look at folding in the Houses that are occupied by these two in order to see how Jupiter's promise works out. So, start reviewing your charts, see what aspects you might have between Sun and Jupiter, consider what houses in your chart that these two occupy, see if you can determine the Phase Relationship they have. And, consider whether Jupiter seems to express itself in your chart on a 1) Personal level, 2) Social, Business level, 3) a Worldly/Mundane/Generational level.
Dave