Predominance of a planet

Skogsnerte

Hi everyone! :)

I would also like to ask you to take a look at my natal chart to see if you can maybe figure out which planet is my dominant/strongest planet. I also thought it mostly had something do to with the aspects so I thought my dom. planet was Neptune since it has 6 aspects. Since I might be wrong it would be great if you could just take a look and share your views. :)
This is the link to my chart:

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3;btyp=w2gw;cid=2mjfileSlVnIa-u1320834420&nhor=5

Thanx in advance!
 

JDisTheBest

Hi everyone! :)

I would also like to ask you to take a look at my natal chart to see if you can maybe figure out which planet is my dominant/strongest planet. I also thought it mostly had something do to with the aspects so I thought my dom. planet was Neptune since it has 6 aspects. Since I might be wrong it would be great if you could just take a look and share your views. :)
This is the link to my chart:

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3;btyp=w2gw;cid=2mjfileSlVnIa-u1320834420&nhor=5

Thanx in advance!

I'm pretty sure it's the ruling planet of the acendant sign most often. So Jupiter? Though I'm no expert v_v
 

MareSaturni

Hi everyone! :)

I would also like to ask you to take a look at my natal chart to see if you can maybe figure out which planet is my dominant/strongest planet. I also thought it mostly had something do to with the aspects so I thought my dom. planet was Neptune since it has 6 aspects. Since I might be wrong it would be great if you could just take a look and share your views. :)
This is the link to my chart:

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3;btyp=w2gw;cid=2mjfileSlVnIa-u1320834420&nhor=5

Thanx in advance!

Hi!

I am not expert in Astrology and I do not know the complex calculations used to determine the Almuten of a chart. So my ideas here are based on my own observations.

At first, the Sun seem to be the planet with more essential dignities in the chart. It's exalted in Aries, it's in an angular house (4th House) and it is in its own Decan. However, it happens to be Squaring three planets, including Saturn, which could lessen its strength a bit.

Saturn could also be strong, as it is in the 1st House and in its Domicile. Still, I think I'd go for the Sun.

Hopefully someone else will chime in and give you a more definite opinion. :)
 

ihcoyc

I'm pretty sure it's the ruling planet of the acendant sign most often. So Jupiter? Though I'm no expert v_v

Jupiter looked fairly strong in that chart: he's the ruler of the rising sign and decan, and in the fifth house. But he has nothing else going for him there in Taurus.

The Sun is exalted in Aries and in his own decan as well. This may be an option.
 

Minderwiz

This is a difficult chart in which to assess a dominant planet. Firstly because there are two planets n their domicile, and two in exaltation. The second reason is that as stated earlier in the thread, there's no agreed method of assessing the answer.

On Ibn Ezra's calculation, Jupiter is the Almuten of the chart even though its Peregrine (see earlier in the thread for more details on this calculation).

If we simply take essential and accidental dignity Saturn just about shades it from Mars but then the Sun has no accidental dignities or debilities, apart from house placement, (though it creates them in other planets). Saturn and Sun are in angular houses but out of sign, Mars in esaltation in the succedant second house is nearly as well placed.

Lastly the Moon is triplicity ruler, the most elevated planet and is the only planet in Hayz (Nocturnal planet, nocturnally placed in a nocturnal chart),

The last issue really is how important is it? I don't use Ibn Ezra and if I had to choose, I'd probably go for Saturn, but I would not be over confident on that. A better stance might be to say no planet predominates, as the above discussion shows. What we have are several strong planets and therefore something of a balancing act.
 

MareSaturni

This is a difficult chart in which to assess a dominant planet. Firstly because there are two planets n their domicile, and two in exaltation. The second reason is that as stated earlier in the thread, there's no agreed method of assessing the answer.

On Ibn Ezra's calculation, Jupiter is the Almuten of the chart even though its Peregrine (see earlier in the thread for more details on this calculation).

If we simply take essential and accidental dignity Saturn just about shades it from Mars but then the Sun has no accidental dignities or debilities, apart from house placement, (though it creates them in other planets). Saturn and Sun are in angular houses but out of sign, Mars in esaltation in the succedant second house is nearly as well placed.

Lastly the Moon is triplicity ruler, the most elevated planet and is the only planet in Hayz (Nocturnal planet, nocturnally placed in a nocturnal chart),

Wow, there are so many factors that can be taken into consideration I think some of my brain cells just committed group suicide. They weren't up to the challenge. :p
I am going to write this down, there are many things to study... I didn't think about diurnal/nocturnal planets or the fact the Moon was elevated... thank you, Minderwiz!

The last issue really is how important is it? I don't use Ibn Ezra and if I had to choose, I'd probably go for Saturn, but I would not be over confident on that. A better stance might be to say no planet predominates, as the above discussion shows. What we have are several strong planets and therefore something of a balancing act.

Hum... really, what is the importance of a dominating planet? LOL! I don't really know. If I recall well, in my chart it is Mars, but if you ask me what it does... I have no idea. Does it influence my personality, giving a 'martial' overlay to everything? Does it make the planet less malefic (I wish, lol! :laugh:)? Does it make me a psychopath/Hitler/Patton in disguise? I don't know.

I believe that it's good that no planets dominates, as you said, it indicates a balance between different aspects of life.
 

Minderwiz

The best approach I find is not to look for a predominating planet!!! :)

I only bother with looking for the Lord of the Geniture and then mainly for its input into the Temperament assessment, though I might we'll up its prominence over 'normal when looking at it's rulership, house position and aspects. And that would be a minor increase not a major upgrade :)

If there's one planet that predominates, it will emerge during you reading - you will keep coming back to it, or it will feature very strongly in temoerament, manners and mind for example it's in the Ascendant, is the sole significator of manners and aspects Moon and Mercury and rules the MC and aspects the MC or planets in the tenth.

The thread is about predominating planets but that's not a term that has clear meaning and not a term I've come across in traditional texts, though clearly the idea of planetary strength is there. The nearest is Ibn Ezra's Almuten of the Chart, which has a more specialised role. I se nothing wrong withrecognising that in some charts there is no predominting planet - indeed such charts are frequently encountered.