Vincent
Fulgour said:
Why don't you just put a sticker over it?
Vincent
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reversed symbols for RWS or Universal Waite
Why don't you just put a sticker over it?
Vincent
Fulgour
Pam's Topsy-Turvy M
that I keep topsy-turvy right next to a large print-out I made of
The Ace of Cups from The Pamela Colman Smith Tarot of 1909
(printed by Rider & Co. London).
I think Waite wanted her to paint a big W for his EGO and she
skunked him with an M. Anyone looking at any of Pam's letters
can easily tell an M from a W. She had a unique style, and
a good eye. The M as W is a lot like the Marseille Ace's design.
Waite never even mentions this, by the way. What a guy.
Actually, I have a wooden capital letter M (about 6" x 6")Vincent said:Why don't you just put a sticker over it?
that I keep topsy-turvy right next to a large print-out I made of
The Ace of Cups from The Pamela Colman Smith Tarot of 1909
(printed by Rider & Co. London).
I think Waite wanted her to paint a big W for his EGO and she
skunked him with an M. Anyone looking at any of Pam's letters
can easily tell an M from a W. She had a unique style, and
a good eye. The M as W is a lot like the Marseille Ace's design.
Waite never even mentions this, by the way. What a guy.
lark
Sometimes you can not get to quality untill you have gone through quantity.Vincent said:Quality of Tarot books, rather than quantity, is the key.
There aren't all that many GD sources of Tarot, and I believe they are all online. If you are looking to find out what any particular symbol in the RWS means, then your best bet is to start with the PKT, then 'Book T', and then anything written by a Golden Dawn member.
Vincent
There are only a handful of book that I view as having any value.
Thank you for the references I will check them out.
Although I am not a big Golden Dawn fan.
Another place I have seen the upside down M is on the alter cloths and robes of the priests in the catholic mass.
Checking out catholic symbolizm might be interesting.
What does that M mean to them?
Vincent
Re: Pam's Topsy-Turvy M
Do you have any evidence for why anyone should believe this to be so?
Why do you think this is more likely than Alan Oken's explanation that the 'M' stands for 'matter'?
Yes, it's hard to distinguish what is more infuriating; what Waite does say, or what he doesn't.
Vincent
Fulgour said:
I think Waite wanted her to paint a big W for his EGO and she
skunked him with an M.
Do you have any evidence for why anyone should believe this to be so?
Why do you think this is more likely than Alan Oken's explanation that the 'M' stands for 'matter'?
Fulgour said:
Anyone looking at any of Pam's letters
can easily tell an M from a W. She had a unique style, and
a good eye. The M as W is a lot like the Marseille Ace's design.
Waite never even mentions this, by the way. What a guy.
Yes, it's hard to distinguish what is more infuriating; what Waite does say, or what he doesn't.
Vincent
Vincent
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Diana
Vincent: I get the impression you have read many of these works you recommend as reading material. Am I wrong in supposing that you have read something in these materials about this letter that looks like an inverted M? If so, perhaps you could share what you have read about it?
Fulgour
shave and a haircut
that the face seen on 18 The Moon, could be (imaginatively)
our friend from 9 The Hermit.
The way the face on The Moon looks over the landscape below,
much like The Hermit looking down from his mountaintop...
and there's the classic version from antiquity of the stock
character portrayal of the moon, an old man with a lantern,
a stick or branch ~ and a dog.
"Light, seeking light, doth light of light beguile."
the eye, seeking enlightenment, deprives itself of the power to see
ie; excessive study frustrates the search for truth by making
the student blind ~ so get out and enjoy the sunny days
Shakespeare ~ Love's Labours Lost
http://www.shakespeare-online.com/plays/LLL_1_1.html
In terms of Polar Opposites ~ have you ever consideredros said:I always look at the card the upright way & never thought of reversing the cards & looking for hidden symbols.
that the face seen on 18 The Moon, could be (imaginatively)
our friend from 9 The Hermit.
The way the face on The Moon looks over the landscape below,
much like The Hermit looking down from his mountaintop...
and there's the classic version from antiquity of the stock
character portrayal of the moon, an old man with a lantern,
a stick or branch ~ and a dog.
"Light, seeking light, doth light of light beguile."
the eye, seeking enlightenment, deprives itself of the power to see
ie; excessive study frustrates the search for truth by making
the student blind ~ so get out and enjoy the sunny days
Shakespeare ~ Love's Labours Lost
http://www.shakespeare-online.com/plays/LLL_1_1.html
Penelope
Maybe we're seeing the dawning of The Age of Aquarius!Fulgour said:In terms of Polar Opposites ~ have you ever considered
that the face seen on 18 The Moon, could be (imaginatively)
our friend from 9 The Hermit.
northsea
Robert Place says the RWS Ace of Cups 'M' stands for Mary, receiving the dove.
MikeTheAltarboy
That seems more likely.Robert Place says the RWS Ace of Cups 'M' stands for Mary, receiving the dove.
Mary also belongs to Binah (As Queen of Heaven), and thus is associated with Briah, the world which the suit of cups represents.
It might also stand for "Maris", the sea, also to do with Binah.
