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You're welcome, dream mage....helps me, too, to have several links in one place...
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terri
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terri
dream mage said:"I think, personally, that the tarot, even though RWS is one of the most revolutionary decks, is not limited to the RWS iconagraphy.
I had a thought that since the RWS deck was done with symbolism aimed at the subconscious, then is it possible that when someone like me who sees a greater connection with Swords to fire, could use that correspondance, rather than stick with the "intended" correspondance.
The_Star said:Investigating the strong association between The Tarot and astrology is very helpful in connecting the dots.
Many 'New Age' tarot decks lack the authenticity of accomplished adepts like A.E.Waite. These decks may be 'fun' but are devoid of the deeper teachings concealed in the RWS symbolism.
If you see a corresponcence between swords and fire it is YOUR subconscious that is revealing that to you about yourself. It does not mean that it is a universal truth.
The only accurate association of Wands (clubs) and Air is that wands move through the air (like a thrown rock). Thoughts are invisible, have no weight, and are associated with Air (Mercury in astrology).
I've been very happy (scientifically and intuitively)The_Star said:...associated with Air (Mercury in astrology).
Would that mean that you can't get an accurate reading from a 'fun' deck, and that everyone should switch to one that has more authenticity?The_Star said:Investigating the strong association between The Tarot and astrology is very helpful in connecting the dots.
Many 'New Age' tarot decks lack the authenticity of accomplished adepts like A.E.Waite. These decks may be 'fun' but are devoid of the deeper teachings concealed in the RWS symbolism.
Fen Windglimmer said:Would that mean that you can't get an accurate reading from a 'fun' deck, and that everyone should switch to one that has more authenticity?
I've just been given a Marseilles deck, do you know what sort of claims to authenticity that one has compared to a Waite deck?
Love and light to all
Fen
dream mage said:First and foremost, I have studied a bit of everything, including a few pieces of astrology, and I find that though it may help in my study of the tarot, Astrology, like tarot... takes a lifetime to study and understand.
Secondly, a lot of these "New Age" tarot decks are done with a lot of thought and energy, if not love mixed into their creation. I think it's rather rude to state that because the creator was not "equal" to A.E.Waite, the resulting deck has no depth or meaning. Tarot is a tool, the cards themselves only have as much magical power as we the reader give them; and as a tool, the deck itself has as much meaning as you put into it.
For example.. can a reader get clear understanding from a deck that they have no love, no connection too? In my opinion, only someone who has a complete understanding of themselves can do so.
Thirdly, I never said that Swords to fire correspondance was a universal truth... if I had, I would be going against my whole philosophy that truth is inside oneself... and since we are all different, truth would be different according to who sees it.
In my study of Shamanism, tools such as a sword/dagger/athame do not have correspondences for abstract reasons like moving through the air... anything tossed through the air doesn't mean it has the correspondance of air... it is merely experiencing the element. In the same regard, all tools have all elements comprised in them, because in order to whole, you need the full cirlce.
I have also studied meditation.. and in my meditations, when I chose to experience an element, such as fire through the southern wheel, images of a sword (not dagger or athame) weilding seraph fill my mind.
I'm not trying to convince others of my thoughts. I'm just trying to share them. I have given this topic lots of thought, and I find myself leaning more and more towards an intuitive method of reading the tarot. This has lend me to more and more questions.
Thank you for your insights