Mediumship

[mingbop]

I see so many new mediums, all over FB and the internet. They take a course, get a wee certificate and tadaaa they are a medium. Or more often, a "psychic medium" or a "spirit medium".... or occasionally an "intuitive medium". And judging by some I've seen read, they haven't a clue what they're doing. They give psychic reads full of angels and chakras and fondly imagine this is mediumship. It is not!
What do you all think, and what experiences have you had with bad mediums?

 

[jillkite]

To my mind a Medium is someone who can receive messages from those who have crossed over to the other side.

For me, delivering messages from Spirit Guides, Angels, etc, is Channelling not Mediumship.

I am from the UK and maybe others from the UK agree with those definitions?? Maybe not?

Not sure how those words are used in the US and beyond. Perhaps there are cultural differences in the definitions and that is causing confusion?

I will be interested in following this thread.

 

[queenxofxwands]

To my mind a Medium is someone who can receive messages from those who have crossed over to the other side.

For me, delivering messages from Spirit Guides, Angels, etc, is Channelling not Mediumship.

I am from the UK and maybe others from the UK agree with those definitions?? Maybe not?

Not sure how those words are used in the US and beyond. Perhaps there are cultural differences in the definitions and that is causing confusion?

I will be interested in following this thread.

One definition of channel is "a MEDIUM for communication or the passage of information."
In other words, they are the same thing.

Mingbop, it's why it will always be seen as " for entertainment purposes only" because there are so many fakes. Sad.

 

[jillkite]

One definition of channel is "a MEDIUM for communication or the passage of information."
In other words, they are the same thing.

I understand that point of view, but i'm not sure it's universally held. Will be interesting to see what others think too

 

[mingbop]

Agree Jill that it's different over here. We don't use the word "channelling" and we do focus very much on providing proof of life after death. But in America it's very different - many things seem to come under the umbrella of mediumship. It must be very confusing for newbies.
Queen, yes it is so sad as the good people get lost in the crowd of fakes and wannabees!

 

[DownUnderNZer]

A Medium connects with those that have crossed over, those that are in between planes, the residue or imprints left behind of some that die in circumstances like an accident, suicide, murder etc, and even low energy life forms or even negative energies created by humankind.

But like a phone call - sometimes you connect and sometimes you don't.

Either this can be done face to face, internally (third eye) or channeling a spirit.

Ive not come across real fake ones, but the best for me come from the UK, Ireland and Scotland.

Love how I have seen the ones I know read as well as their ethics. I do like one Australian Medium too.

Entertainment purposes? Wasn't that introduced due to a reader getting it wrong about a baby? There was a miscarriage and then a huge lawsuit that followed.

I was told it and read it somewhere years ago, but it was removed online so am not sure how credible it is with it being taken off.

 

[mingbop]

As far as I know - which isn't very far lol - the Fraudulent Mediums Act only applied if it could be proven that a medium was deliberately setting out to deceive a sitter. It was repealed a few years ago and I think we were shoved under the umbrella of the Consumers Protection Act. But if you concentrate only on SNU-type mediumship, ie you can only give what you can prove - then there's nothing to worry about there. The grey areas I think are house- clearing, rescue mediumship, past life stuff that cannot always be proven 100%. It's a very interesting subject lol

 

[celticnoodle]

What do you all think, and what experiences have you had with bad mediums?

A psychic-medium is defined as someone who is able to communicate with spirits of the dead and bring these messages to the living.

To my mind a Medium is someone who can receive messages from those who have crossed over to the other side.

exactly!

For me, delivering messages from Spirit Guides, Angels, etc, is Channelling not Mediumship.

agreed again. This is probably more under the term of being psychic. Nothing in here has to do with mediumship. Not saying it isn't possible to get messages from peoples guides, angels, etc. but I don't see it as mediumship when they do this.

Agree Jill that it's different over here. We don't use the word "channelling" and we do focus very much on providing proof of life after death. But in America it's very different - many things seem to come under the umbrella of mediumship. It must be very confusing for newbies.
Queen, yes it is so sad as the good people get lost in the crowd of fakes and wannabees!

I can't say it is different here in the U.S. compared to other European countries, because I've not had much experience in getting a medium reading over there in person. However, I have been a part of a psychic-medium circle with people from all over the world--including Mingbop here, from Scotland, and others from England, Australia, and other parts of the world. Seems to me we all went about it the same way, delivered messages in the same way, and we all seemed to be the same. But, perhaps it is different face to face? Can't say.

A Medium connects with those that have crossed over, those that are in between planes, the residue or imprints left behind of some that die in circumstances like an accident, suicide, murder etc, and even low energy life forms or even negative energies created by humankind.

But like a phone call - sometimes you connect and sometimes you don't.

BINGO! This is right, DownUnderNZer. Its not always possible to connect, as its also up to the spirit to want this and to come through.

Either this can be done face to face, internally (third eye) or channeling a spirit.

yep. again, true!

Ive not come across real fake ones, but the best for me come from the UK, Ireland and Scotland.

I've come across some fakes in my time too, both face to face and also via telephone reading, internet readings, etc. However, I currently go to a wonderful woman in Vermont, U.S.A. who is always right on the money! She is a fantastic card reader and psychic/psychic-medium.

 

[lark]

As I see it a certificate just says I paid some money, I took a class, and I got a certificate.
A certificate for taking a class does not mean you are a full medium nor does it mean you aren't.
Lets face it spirits are slippery things they don't always cooperate.
They don't appear on command like your puppy...energy has a lot to do with it and timing.
I actually ..well I guess I don't believe it is teachable.
I can't imagine what a class could teach me that spirit hasn't already taught me through the experience of practicing mediumship.

I always see certificates as something that people use to draw in customers...look I'm legit I have a certificate.
The proof is in the pudding....are you getting meaningful messages that people can confirm are from their loved ones....if yes you are doing what you should.
With or without a certificate.

People make such a stew of it...seem to labor over it, I think they really believe spirit won't come through if they don't take a million classes.

I say open your arms wide offer yourself to be of service to spirit to pass messages on from the other side and wait....that's what I did and I've never been so busy with spirits.

I do think what getting a certificate can do is get you in contact with like minded people.
And serve as a jumping off point for other activities...so in that way it is good.

P.S....I worked at a psychic fair for years we had many many readers and mediums come in and out the doors...some fake some real...the fakes didn't last long...people aren't dumb they always gravitated to the real readers and the fakes just kind of faded out when it wasn't worth their time to sit at a table all day with no clients.

 

[DownUnderNZer]

Everyone has the potential to be Psychic, but not all have the ability to be a Medium.

Good point about certificates.

I have none whatsoever and do not think some things can be taught at all like to be a Medium. There are ways to develop abilities, but you have to have the ability first.

Its like going from kindy to high school then Uni. Some will progress to the highest level and be stronger and even jump ahead in classes whereas others will not go passed high school level....or even kindy if not interested. But a lot of things factor in.

I would go by word of mouth rather than a certificate - even tv celebrities I am not taken by.


However, I did stumble across an excellent Medium (she was not supposed to be there) down the coast from Ireland in May. The real deal. Quick delivery and details only her sitter could know - even a gravestone that had the wrong spelling!!! Breath of fresh air amongst the mediocre lot that were not such strong Mediums. Hell...others there were not great either that were card readers or Psychic.

Few of us tried different readers and they were "okay", but that is all. $60 for 20 mins. And not the elite of the elite I reckon. Seen better for more and a lot less.

Certificates really are just a front for some I reckon.

As I see it a certificate just says I paid some money, I took a class, and I got a certificate.
A certificate for taking a class does not mean you are a full medium nor does it mean you aren't.
Lets face it spirits are slippery things they don't always cooperate.
They don't appear on command like your puppy...energy has a lot to do with it and timing.
I actually ..well I guess I don't believe it is teachable.
I can't imagine what a class could teach me that spirit hasn't already taught me through the experience of practicing mediumship.

I always see certificates as something that people use to draw in customers...look I'm legit I have a certificate.
The proof is in the pudding....are you getting meaningful messages that people can confirm are from their loved ones....if yes you are doing what you should.
With or without a certificate.

People make such a stew of it...seem to labor over it, I think they really believe spirit won't come through if they don't take a million classes.

I say open your arms wide offer yourself to be of service to spirit to pass messages on from the other side and wait....that's what I did and I've never been so busy with spirits.

I do think what getting a certificate can do is get you in contact with like minded people.
And serve as a jumping off point for other activities...so in that way it is good.

P.S....I worked at a psychic fair for years we had many many readers and mediums come in and out the doors...some fake some real...the fakes didn't last long...people aren't dumb they always gravitated to the real readers and the fakes just kind of faded out when it wasn't worth their time to sit at a table all day with no clients.