dadsnook2000
Up until this point we have been exploring some of the functionality of the inner planets or should I say the "visible" planets -- out to and including Saturn. We had found that the planets shaped our inclination to live, act and respond in certain ways and that we -- for some yet undetermined reason -- seemed to respond to those circles, cycles and seasons as the planets moved through our natal chart imprint and made new contacts with each other.
As we moved into considering Jupiter and Saturn we found that we described our inclinations to interact socially and within the constraints of various "outer" groups that our lives intersected with. With Jupiter and Saturn we noted a shift in how we interpreted these planets, placing more of an inclusionary feeling into our findings and assumptions. As we approach the point of considering Uranus, we first have to consider how Saturn and Uranus work together, or don't work together, as the case may be. We really can't fully appreciate Uranus, Neptune and Pluto until we feel comfortable about bridging into those rhealms from Saturn. In many ways, Saturn represents limits but Saturn is also the bridge to the outer or generational planets. So this thread may have to find its way and its pace as we move forward.
Welcome back after several weeks of resting.
Uranus was seen but not appreciated before its recorded discovery. That is the nature of surprises, they are under your eyes and you don't see them until that surprise moment. Uranus, upon discovery, seemed to correlate with big social changes, the popular revolutions in the US and in France, and the great Industrial Revolution. The world changed. Old orders and methods were disrupted. The world was "changed" in every sense of the word.
Change is seldom appreciated. In mythology, Uranus was a contrary ba*t*rd to say the least. Everyone finally conspired against him and talked Saturn, his child, to castrate him. Saturn met his responsibility and did so, all of this symbolizing Saturn's tendancy to limit the creative and changing nature of Uranus. That "limitation" and "duty" of Saturn versus the "change" and "surprises" of Uranus will form part of the basis of our exploration.
Another basis of exploration will be to deal with the shifting nature of going from "personal" to "interaction" to "sociaties trends on a generaltional level." This area of space leaves Saturn's orbit and travels out to a zone that is twice as far to reach Uranus' orbit. We also will have to stretch ourselves to see Uranus in its many forms and to be able to grasp its social impact, its intrusion into where our private lives meets society, and even (for some of us) where Uranus intrudes into our personal life and personality. Some of us may find that Uranus mostly works only on one level, others may find Uranus works on two/more levels or doesn't seem to work at all in their charts.
As a start lets just look at Uranus in terms of its cycle thru time within our charts. Having an 84 year cycle, we can immediately look at the half cycle and quarter cycle points in time and come to some immediate conclusions.
The quarter cycle coincides with age 21, the age where we assume a degree of maturity becomes evident. This is the time where we legally vote, drink, and graduate from school -- the point where we do what we want and find that we live with the consequences. The half-cycle occurs at/near ge 42, the age where we start to recognize our mortality. The children are approaching their age of maturity, we struggle with paying off monies associated with their schooling, our housing, our growing collection of property for play and pleasure. We are also at a point of having to position ourselves for advancement in our careers or, having spent to long in a career that is no longer relevant, changing careers and all of the uncertainties that this move implies.
The 3/4 cycle occurs at 63 or so, when our ability and suitability for past endeavors is questioned, where some are forced into retirement and then feel unneeded and unrelevant to the world around us. By the time the cycle ends at/around age 84 most of us, if still living, probably find that we have done all that we wanted to do. Yet, some go on and continue to shape the world around them in surprising ways.
Along with the cycle of time, through time, Uranus is moving thru our natal houses. House systems in our natal chart comprise a sequentail set of areas of experience -- areas that are longer and/or shorter as we progress thru the houses. Houses are highly individualistic and personal. Uranus will take varying amounts of time to move through our houses. Signs on the other hand are quite equal in length and Uranus generally moves through them on a somewhat regular basis -- slightly longer, slightly shorter but quite regular in motion. Signs are mundane, worldly, generational in some ways such as new trends.
So, we have our work cut out for us. We can look at the following in whatever order we please:
1) Saturn in relationship to Uranus: how we interface with societies pressures and changes.
2) Uranus thru the houses: We have the sequence of houses and we have the starting point orientation of the house Uranus is in at birth. It's one thing to have Uranus pass thru the seventh house of the chart versus the seventh house from where it was in the birth chart. So, we have to consider double meanings as we explore this.
3) Uranus thru the signs: The mundane events that swirl around our lives and indirectly impact them. This area is both dicey and interesting to explore.
4) Uranus in aspect within the natal chart: what does it all mean.
5) Uranus as it transits the natal chart: does it trigger the natal aspects, does it show an impact for all transits?
So, the above listing of explorations is what I'm proposing. As always, I make no claims of special knowledge or in being able to give deep insights. I just do what I always do -- layout the obvious, suggest some conclusions, ask for confirmation or disassociation from the list members, restate what we seem to have found, and then use all of that to move onto the next step.
In following posts within this thread I will start to review the symbolic meanings of Saturn and Uranus so that we can all get more comfortable with this deep and important area of our charts. Feel free to comment or make suggestions. Dave.
As we moved into considering Jupiter and Saturn we found that we described our inclinations to interact socially and within the constraints of various "outer" groups that our lives intersected with. With Jupiter and Saturn we noted a shift in how we interpreted these planets, placing more of an inclusionary feeling into our findings and assumptions. As we approach the point of considering Uranus, we first have to consider how Saturn and Uranus work together, or don't work together, as the case may be. We really can't fully appreciate Uranus, Neptune and Pluto until we feel comfortable about bridging into those rhealms from Saturn. In many ways, Saturn represents limits but Saturn is also the bridge to the outer or generational planets. So this thread may have to find its way and its pace as we move forward.
Welcome back after several weeks of resting.
Uranus was seen but not appreciated before its recorded discovery. That is the nature of surprises, they are under your eyes and you don't see them until that surprise moment. Uranus, upon discovery, seemed to correlate with big social changes, the popular revolutions in the US and in France, and the great Industrial Revolution. The world changed. Old orders and methods were disrupted. The world was "changed" in every sense of the word.
Change is seldom appreciated. In mythology, Uranus was a contrary ba*t*rd to say the least. Everyone finally conspired against him and talked Saturn, his child, to castrate him. Saturn met his responsibility and did so, all of this symbolizing Saturn's tendancy to limit the creative and changing nature of Uranus. That "limitation" and "duty" of Saturn versus the "change" and "surprises" of Uranus will form part of the basis of our exploration.
Another basis of exploration will be to deal with the shifting nature of going from "personal" to "interaction" to "sociaties trends on a generaltional level." This area of space leaves Saturn's orbit and travels out to a zone that is twice as far to reach Uranus' orbit. We also will have to stretch ourselves to see Uranus in its many forms and to be able to grasp its social impact, its intrusion into where our private lives meets society, and even (for some of us) where Uranus intrudes into our personal life and personality. Some of us may find that Uranus mostly works only on one level, others may find Uranus works on two/more levels or doesn't seem to work at all in their charts.
As a start lets just look at Uranus in terms of its cycle thru time within our charts. Having an 84 year cycle, we can immediately look at the half cycle and quarter cycle points in time and come to some immediate conclusions.
The quarter cycle coincides with age 21, the age where we assume a degree of maturity becomes evident. This is the time where we legally vote, drink, and graduate from school -- the point where we do what we want and find that we live with the consequences. The half-cycle occurs at/near ge 42, the age where we start to recognize our mortality. The children are approaching their age of maturity, we struggle with paying off monies associated with their schooling, our housing, our growing collection of property for play and pleasure. We are also at a point of having to position ourselves for advancement in our careers or, having spent to long in a career that is no longer relevant, changing careers and all of the uncertainties that this move implies.
The 3/4 cycle occurs at 63 or so, when our ability and suitability for past endeavors is questioned, where some are forced into retirement and then feel unneeded and unrelevant to the world around us. By the time the cycle ends at/around age 84 most of us, if still living, probably find that we have done all that we wanted to do. Yet, some go on and continue to shape the world around them in surprising ways.
Along with the cycle of time, through time, Uranus is moving thru our natal houses. House systems in our natal chart comprise a sequentail set of areas of experience -- areas that are longer and/or shorter as we progress thru the houses. Houses are highly individualistic and personal. Uranus will take varying amounts of time to move through our houses. Signs on the other hand are quite equal in length and Uranus generally moves through them on a somewhat regular basis -- slightly longer, slightly shorter but quite regular in motion. Signs are mundane, worldly, generational in some ways such as new trends.
So, we have our work cut out for us. We can look at the following in whatever order we please:
1) Saturn in relationship to Uranus: how we interface with societies pressures and changes.
2) Uranus thru the houses: We have the sequence of houses and we have the starting point orientation of the house Uranus is in at birth. It's one thing to have Uranus pass thru the seventh house of the chart versus the seventh house from where it was in the birth chart. So, we have to consider double meanings as we explore this.
3) Uranus thru the signs: The mundane events that swirl around our lives and indirectly impact them. This area is both dicey and interesting to explore.
4) Uranus in aspect within the natal chart: what does it all mean.
5) Uranus as it transits the natal chart: does it trigger the natal aspects, does it show an impact for all transits?
So, the above listing of explorations is what I'm proposing. As always, I make no claims of special knowledge or in being able to give deep insights. I just do what I always do -- layout the obvious, suggest some conclusions, ask for confirmation or disassociation from the list members, restate what we seem to have found, and then use all of that to move onto the next step.
In following posts within this thread I will start to review the symbolic meanings of Saturn and Uranus so that we can all get more comfortable with this deep and important area of our charts. Feel free to comment or make suggestions. Dave.