martha stewart LOL
haahaahaahaahaa
jade
Malachite
16 Mar 2002
ok...new world reference there...Who is Martha Stewart?...
blue
17 Mar 2002
She is the queen of consumerism, the princess of etiquette, and the high priestess of the excessive do-it-yourself d?cor.
I have long suspected she is the Devil.
Aside from that, I have always admired her canap?s.
Malachite
17 Mar 2002
Shoulder pads and mousse-abuse?...
blue
17 Mar 2002
No, more like, do it yourself interior design and cooking. She is the American gospel to some on how to live and entertain elegantly. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself. I have to admit that I find some of her ideas and especially her recipes exquisite.
She has become quite wealthy promoting herself as THE consultant to domestic perfection. Once again there is nothing wrong with that. She appeals to the human part of all of us that wants to be elegant, entertaining, and able to surpass the Jones? in style.
No, I don?t really think she is the Devil but then I have always been a defender of the devil, it makes for good conversation. She is a creative, talented person who excels at self promotion and has created a whole following of clones as a result. The problem, as I see it, is not Martha herself but from those who buy into her hype, those who feel somehow devalued because they are unable to measure up to Stewarts benchmark of excellence.
I?ve actually met these people in my professional career (I?m sure you have too). It?s important that the towels match and the yard is a perfect mat of green. To them joy is had strictly from the material world and what they can obtain.
This brings us back to the mater of Anton LeVey and the Satanic Bible. My opinion of both of them can be summed up by a line from the movie ?Fight Club?. The main character stated, ?F**K Martha Stewart! Martha Stewart is polishing the brass on the Titanic and it?s all going DOWN!?
We live in a world of free will. We are allowed to investigate and try out all that life offers. We are encouraged to make our own decisions. If Musicman is curious about the Satanic Bible I say read it, learn all you can about life?s diversity and different view points. Become well read and well rounded but remain skeptical. Listen to your heart. If getting the ?things? you want and asserting yourself among others in important, so be it. However, remembering that we only have so much time on this earth may lead you to conclude that developing love, for yourself and others is a more constructive way to pass your limited time here.
jade
17 Mar 2002
actually dear martha never wears make up or does anything with her hair.......she's very laid back in her show
i think most people don't like her because she has achieved such great success doing what she is good at! she's an amazing cook and crafty person. she knows soooo much about plants, indoor and outdoor, actually i doubt there is a topic that has something to do with your home, asthetically speaking, that she doesn't have some good knowledge about.
she started out as a caterer, if i'm remembering correctly and just took it a step beyond.
in light,
jade
New River
17 Mar 2002
Actually i'm amazed that Martha Stewart hasn't written her own version of the bible yet! lol
when i saw the topic, Satanic Bible, i thought it was an oxymoron. but then i guess anyone is entitled to write their own bible. i hadn't heard of it. i have heard of the Mystical Bible. has anyone read it?
my dear departed great grandmother's ghost would probably show back up if she saw me reading a book called the Satanic Bible. but then she'd probably show up if she saw me reading the Martha Stewart bible too! lol
love, light and hope, New River
Malachite
17 Mar 2002
technically, Bible is just latin stolen-from-greek for 'book', so anyone can right their own, i suppose...
Liliana
17 Mar 2002
I read it in highschool, my friend was interested in satanism wheras I was more into Wicca, but i wascurious and borrowed it, read it all in a day because ifound it interesting. It pretty much teaches you are your own God, you birthday is the most important holiday of the year. Everything you do should be for yourself, hell with other people. If anyone does you the slightest wrong, feel free to curse them. It is called Satanism because the sin of Satan was pride, thinking he was better than God, and thats what Satanists do. Im far too spiritual and loving for that
.dc
18 Mar 2002
Quote:Originally posted by Kiama
Anton LaVey's Satanism isn't about worshipping the devil or anything... Basically, the Satanic Bible is a handbook about how to have a good life, get what you want, self-gratification, etc... If I'm not mistaken, I believe it includes self-gratification magick somewhere....
i'd have to agree with kiama's assessment. i also own a copy of the Satanic Bible and was surprised that it wasn't all encompassing eVil like everyone said. actually, i found it to be an interesting read with a lot of good stuff to say about how to live on this planet in the here and now.
i don't call myself a satanic worshipper. and i never will. however, i feel (as in anything one can bash) that if you are going to bash a belief/idea system then you have to learn all you can about it first. learn it and read up on it and try and see it from those people's point of view first...before you just haul off and bash them for feeling this way. that way you've gained understanding of just why and what it is about those beliefs you disagree rather than using the all-encompassing "just cos" argument. i find it rather odd that people will bash the belief or me for owning a copy, but when i throw it in their laps to read it, they elect not to read it and stay "afraid" of the the stigmatism attached to it. of course, this situation is VERY genericized and i hope does not offend anyone.
on a lighter note, i'm proud to say that i have my copy sitting on my shelf next to my copy of the God's Bible. I figure, if there is a heaven and a hell, then let God and satan battle it out on my bookshelf rather than in MY life. =)
blessed be,
.dc
january
18 Mar 2002
I agree about learning what you can about something before bashing it, such as those who claim Tarot as "evil". Make your own educated decisions. That goes for those folks who burned Harry Potter books as well!
As far as Martha is concerned, I actually run into her around here from time to time. We get our Mocha-chinos at the same coffee shop. I interviewed for a position at her magazine a few years back. The interviewer began our meeting with, "Here at Martha Stewart Living, we all strive to be as perfect as Martha."
Martha and The Devil.... bound to the material world, one with chains, the other with double-faced satin ribbon.
~ january
.dc
18 Mar 2002
Quote:Originally posted by january
Martha and The Devil.... bound to the material world, one with chains, the other with double-faced satin ribbon.
NOW THAT IS A KEWL .sig to have!!!
nice january very nice.
and btw, is this true about your second-degree of seperation from the eVil martha and her perky kingdom of homeliness?
wow...
.dc
Kaleidoscope Eyes
18 Mar 2002
I'll be honest. Basically, the book is a load of crap: How to be an egotistical, self-serving asshole. IMO, we've got all of that we need in the great lunatic asylum called earth.
I understand that much of the author's "Satanism" was more showmanship and self-promotion than anything. Whether this is so or not, I don't know, and I don't care. As others have written, the book is basically about self serving and self gratification. I've dealt with enough people like that to know such an orientation can lead to no good.
Yeah, I actually read the thing... a long time ago. I was young, stupid and impressionable.
It's fookin' garbage... but don't take my word for it. Read it if you want.
Greenman
19 Mar 2002
LaVey was not so much about serving the Devil as serving one's self. it is all about worshipping ego.
i actually met the man in SF back in the 60's (although i was only 15 or so). but everything i've read about him since tells me he was a total huckster.
i will try to post a link regarding this if i can find it. i recently changed ISP's and lost all of my bookmarks. but if anyone is interested, i'll dig it up.
Greenman
19 Mar 2002
okay, that wasn't TOO hard. here's the link...
http://www.churchofsatan.org/aslv.html
please realize that this is NOT an indictment of satanism, just an expose' of the man who claims to be the founder of the modern
'Church of Satan'.
enjoy.
Alleira
21 Mar 2002
Honestly people who think the Satanic bible is evil, likely haven't read the darned thing. I've had people that come on my website and tell me I shouldn't even use the word Satanic on my site, let alone talk about Anton's books. Gotta love that sort of thing. It's worth a read. An interesting little book and it's gotta a great Anton baldy shot on the back. I remembered his face long before I read the books lol. By the Anton standards, people really need to start reassessing the subject of Satanism. It's not really what it is cracked up to be
Alleira
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