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Yes, a halo, it seems so obvious. To me it looks like the halo is the result of the union of Babalon and the Beast.
Although Thelemic deity might be different from others in concepts, Crowley must have treated them as entities existing across abyss, which must be invoked or conjured up via proper rituals.
http://hermetic.com/osiris/cupofbabalon.htm
But there's a difference between the way one treats something, for example in magickal practice, and what something is, and I don't really understand the connection of the link you posted. Thelemic doctrine is closely linked to Qabalistic structure and the Tree of Life illustrates it well. Nuit is the All, including the Negative Veils which is what I mean when I said all that there is or isn't. Babalon is her earthly counterpart representing the unlimited possibilities of existence.
There's no need to go into making them into traditional deities because of the idea that all men are deities in themselves which changes everything.
The link was about detailed procedure of the magical rituals for channeling Babalon. Although it is written in symbolic fashion, it clearly demonstrates Thelemic deities has to be invoked by the rituals. I mean, they are not simply available or contactable by everyone and general public.
Yes, I get your point of the Book of Law and the underlying principle that every man and every woman is a star implying the deities are present in all of us humanities. However, I still feel that the deities only emanates to those who are the initiates, not to everyone, tom dick and harry on the street.
So every man and woman is a star, if and only if, they are the initiates or at least aware of the Thelemic teachings?
However, I still feel that the deities only emanates to those who are the initiates, not to everyone, tom dick and harry on the street.
Well, strictly speaking, they're not beings that you can contact at all. One certainly doesn't pray to Nuit in order to have her grant wishes the way one prays to any other god. With Nuit being the all-ness and Hadit being "in the heart of every man" you're constantly interacting with them, in every experience and act and thought and breath. Their interaction is a fundamental rule of the universe, the subject and the object. Below the Abyss there is no separation between them but above is where you differentiate where one begins and the other ends. In simple terms, drinking from the cup of Babalon is experiencing life itself. What your link describes is that attainment of Adepthood is the process through which a person who has dedicated himself to the Great Work symbolically dies in the arms of Babalon and is reborn to his Will. The Cup is the world around you and infinite space.
The whole point here is not to impose old Aeon sensibilities of a pantheon of gods that sit in some cloudy heaven and grant indulgences according to their whims.
And no, every man and every woman is a star regardless of whether they are initiates or not, all are stars orbiting their own Will.
Why?
Great references and explanation. Although, the definition of Babalon seems still too abstract.
Yes, a halo, it seems so obvious. To me it looks like the halo is the result of the union of Babalon and the Beast.
They are same question, just put in different wordings.
Check Wiki's definition for anima mundi, as I have got it from there.
Although Thelemic deity might be different from others in concepts,
Crowley must have treated them as entities existing across abyss, which must be invoked or conjured up via proper rituals.
Stop repeating yourself
Is it not the typical case of false premises lead into false and hollow conclusion?
The link was about detailed procedure of the magical rituals for channeling Babalon. Although it is written in symbolic fashion, it clearly demonstrates Thelemic deities has to be invoked by the rituals. I mean, they are not simply available or contactable by everyone and general public.
Yes, I get your point of the Book of Law and the underlying principle that every man and every woman is a star implying the deities are present in all of us humanities. However, I still feel that the deities only emanates to those who are the initiates, not to everyone, tom dick and harry on the street.
So every man and woman is a star, if and only if, they are the initiates or at least aware of the Thelemic teachings?