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So, as happens, the Thoth is driving me to refamiliarize/learn more astrology. The basic reading was interesting, but wasn't clicking, and hey, the cards are the whole reason why I want to learn this stuff right now, so yesterday I turned to the cards themselves to try and puzzle it out.
I read that planets are direct forces, and signs are more like scenarios or arenas wherein those forces are exercised. And the Atouts' correspondences are either planets or signs. So I used them to graph my chart and see what happens. For instance,
My Sun and Magus are in Art
My Priestess is in the Star
My Empress is in the Devil
My Tower is in the Hermit
My Fortune is in Death
with The Lovers ascending
Interesting! "Mars in Virgo" means very little to me...but "The Tower operating through The Hermit?" Bam. That phrase is a cornucopia of imagery. This brought up a couple of snags, though. XXI corresponds with Saturn, the BoT explicitly gives that. But I've read elsewhere that XII gets Neptune, The Fool gets Uranos, and XX gets Pluto. Are these GD associations? Did Crowley use them? Or, in my experiment of mapping trumps on trumps, do these three cards (0, XII, XX) exist outside in their own little category?
The mapping trumps on trumps works other ways, though. If you match the sign and planet of a pip with its two majors, you instantly understand the pip's color scheme! This is nothing new, I'm sure, but as a method to stumble on all by myself, if feels huge! And the key word can work backwards to understand subtleties of trumps' interactions. How would The Sun in The Lovers equal Ruin (10 Swords)? Snarky Crowley.
I'm not sure if this is logically solid or just a good learning exercise. I mean, the trumps don't easily divide into, say, "active, external forces" and "realms or modes of expression to be traversed." Do they? The best I've yet played out this logic is that the "sign" trumps -- IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, XI, XIII, XIV, XV, XVII, and XVIII -- are like settings, they need to be actively addressed and consciously handled. While the "planetary" trumps -- I, II, III, X, XVI, XIX (0, XXII, XX, XXI?) -- are forces to be humbly acquiesced to and/or worked with. Perhaps even that "signs," being external scenarios, require spacetime context while "planets," being forces or internal, are generally wonkier and ongoing processes to apply to given situations.
Yes? No? Maybe so?
And if yes, couldn't you use these categories as an alternative or addition to, say, elemental dignities when exploring a reading?
I read that planets are direct forces, and signs are more like scenarios or arenas wherein those forces are exercised. And the Atouts' correspondences are either planets or signs. So I used them to graph my chart and see what happens. For instance,
My Sun and Magus are in Art
My Priestess is in the Star
My Empress is in the Devil
My Tower is in the Hermit
My Fortune is in Death
with The Lovers ascending
Interesting! "Mars in Virgo" means very little to me...but "The Tower operating through The Hermit?" Bam. That phrase is a cornucopia of imagery. This brought up a couple of snags, though. XXI corresponds with Saturn, the BoT explicitly gives that. But I've read elsewhere that XII gets Neptune, The Fool gets Uranos, and XX gets Pluto. Are these GD associations? Did Crowley use them? Or, in my experiment of mapping trumps on trumps, do these three cards (0, XII, XX) exist outside in their own little category?
The mapping trumps on trumps works other ways, though. If you match the sign and planet of a pip with its two majors, you instantly understand the pip's color scheme! This is nothing new, I'm sure, but as a method to stumble on all by myself, if feels huge! And the key word can work backwards to understand subtleties of trumps' interactions. How would The Sun in The Lovers equal Ruin (10 Swords)? Snarky Crowley.
I'm not sure if this is logically solid or just a good learning exercise. I mean, the trumps don't easily divide into, say, "active, external forces" and "realms or modes of expression to be traversed." Do they? The best I've yet played out this logic is that the "sign" trumps -- IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, XI, XIII, XIV, XV, XVII, and XVIII -- are like settings, they need to be actively addressed and consciously handled. While the "planetary" trumps -- I, II, III, X, XVI, XIX (0, XXII, XX, XXI?) -- are forces to be humbly acquiesced to and/or worked with. Perhaps even that "signs," being external scenarios, require spacetime context while "planets," being forces or internal, are generally wonkier and ongoing processes to apply to given situations.
Yes? No? Maybe so?
And if yes, couldn't you use these categories as an alternative or addition to, say, elemental dignities when exploring a reading?