And I have a question about the Clouds for Mary Greer and DND: In a GT when the Clouds are above or below (or close diagonally), how is Clouds read w/ Person card when there is no direction that can be applied? I have books, just not dragging them out right now....lol
Most books don't talk about over and under. I see Clouds-above, especially when over the Significator, as the worst possible position. But is it a fog or a depressing weather/circumstances/mental state or is it stormy? Other cards are needed to tell. Please lay out your own deck for the following.
If Clouds is above and Stars is beneath the Significator, she may be trying to gain clarity in a very unclear situation. CartaMundi says: "The star is always a good sign, as long as it is shining bright and as long as no clouds hide the blue sky from your sight." So Clouds obscures Stars. Clouds is ominous; it 'weighs' on the woman. So troubles and confusion weigh on her. At its worse, Clouds-above may indicate severe mental problems, depression or insanity.
What if Mountain is to the right of Stars? That's an enemy or major obstacle that again blocks Stars. Mountain also knights Clouds, increasing the difficulty of both. A view of Stars is obscured from both sides.
Let's put House to the right of Clouds = household disturbances.
A sequence of sad or unfortunate events, regarding the home/possessions seems to be working against this woman - possibly as the result of some enmity or blockage (Mountain). Without more cards or a bit of context this could indicate severe problems or temporary difficulties.
Clouds - House
Woman - ?
Stars - Mountain
What if we switch this to:
Stars - House
Woman - ?
Clouds - Mountain
Both Stars and Clouds are still either adjacent to or knighting House and Mountain!
I see Stars+House as household planning/guidance or aspirations toward prosperity. But it could also be something to do with her home internet (Stars as internet), or something else entirely. Stars is a positive card, often signaling success, so I might describe the woman as hopeful or idealistic; perhaps she feels guided.
To me, with Clouds beneath her, the focus is on what she can affect, and she isn't clear about that. Perhaps she's unsure how to connect everything. All the technology (Stars) overwhelms her (Mountain).
So Clouds beneath is not quite so ominous to me. She might be able to work something out if she can get some clarity to move past the obstacles, even though she is off to a poor start.
Even though the Clouds card says "when their clear side is turned towards the person, it's a happy sign," I find that most traditional Clouds card illustrations are either unclear as to a "bright" side or vary from deck-to-deck. Furthermore, the majority of Lenormand cards are described as negative "if clouded." So, to me, Clouds is always troubling. It's just a matter of degree - based mostly on context.