hey new2, i agree that comparing the reading of the two decks, is just too much info at once. but i must add it could be argued that maybe the rws meaning was correct as it was laid, and that maybe you were misreading the thoth. who knows. could go either way. having said that, as for your question of flipping or turning, when i was first learning, the lady that i was learning from, always picked up the deck from the querent, then turned them so that she was looking at the deck the same way the querent was. (from the same end.) then as she laid them out she would turn them over (like a book). it is more natural for me to flip cards, (do it that way when playing a card game), so therefore i have never turned the cards around, in other words when i take the cards from the querent, i am looking at the cards upside down based on the way they were holding them. that way when i flip, i am actually making them right side up, (even if it is reversed, i am still looking at it the same way the querent would have been). but , i don't think it matters how you do it, as long as you are consisent. when i do a reading for myself, i will turn the whole deck around just before flipping the cards, that way when they are turned face up, i am looking at them the way they were while shuffling.