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Gypsy Fortune Telling Cards


I like using gypsy cards they are so magical and its origin wraps up in a mystery...
Allegedly the gypsy cards were brought into Europe by the gypsies.
The titles of the cards are very simple eg. money, love, baby but they have deeper meanings, too.
If you also interested in it please feel free to post messages and we can discuss meanings and combinations as well.

I use gypsy cards made by Piatnic...

http://www.harmonet.hu/data/cikkek/14714/01.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x.../gypsybg-1.jpg



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Gypsy Fortune Telling Cards are Lenormand based/ clone, my first cards as well!
If you search the Forum for 'Madam Lenormand', you'll feel at home
Happy foruming!
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sibilla thread links


The cards in the link look like the sibilla decks. Sibillas have more than 36 cards, usually 52.

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=7656 has a long discussion.

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=83475 has a link to a site with pics and meanings. (might need a translation site)

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=83627 bodhran's list of meanings

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=103965 another discussion

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Thank you so much for your posts ...

Moderndayruth yes you are right Gypsy Fortune Telling cards have lots of analogy with the Lenormand cards but there are differences between them as well.
Gypsy cards use different symbols although there are some concordant elements like house, dog...but I would not say it's only a clone of the Lenormand.

cardlady22 thank you for your sedulity but the cards in the link are Gypsy Fortune Telling Cards made by Piatnic and have 36 cards...

I insert some pictures on them...

http://www.compaya.hu/Image/3585/thumb/1901.jpg

http://www.boszorkanystudio.hu/ck.jpg

http://bookline.hu/product_images/944/O50392.JPG



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Oopsie! Then the link you want is
http://www.tarotforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=144 studying Lenormand decks
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Thank you for your flash reply cardlady22 again...

Your link is certainly very useful for those involved in reading Lenormand cards but I use Gypsy Fortune Telling cards which are in the links above.
Here in Hungary it is widely used for reading cards. We dub it "gossipy" card since it tells secrets.I like the cards of it...

For instance one of the meanings of the card LETTER is secret.In the picture there is a letter with a seal carried by a dove.I love it...


http://www.ciganykartya.hu/ciganykar...ages/level.jpg



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Very interesting. It's a good thing that you made it clear that the use of cards you want to discuss are not the usual Lenormand, because the thread might get moved to that section otherwise.

ETA: I have often wondered about the various countries and smaller groups of people who use these types of oracles. I would like to hear more of the stories and unique meanings you have learned for the cards.

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Thanks cardlady22...
I'll tell a story about the cards later. I'am glad that it intrigues you as well.
Now I show some time-honored cards.
The JOURNEY is one card of the Gypsy cards.

http://www.tradicionalis-asztrologia...es/veto_01.jpg

and one with new look :

http://www.ciganykartya.hu/ciganykar...ges/utazas.jpg

and in my deck:

http://www.zigeuner-karten.de/tageskarten/reise.jpg

THE JOURNEY

This card isn't just about travel.
It indicates change, move and alludes to something that is in progress or in motion.

Key words : travel, dislocation, shift, moving, change in something / financies, emotions, love affair,health , job/
process is in motion,something is under way

The pictures on this card also suggest its meaning. Usually there is a ship, train or a carriage drawn by two horses one white and one black one.

This card has a very important role in combinations as well.Some traditional combinations :

Journey - Hope - it could be a grand voyage through the ocean

Journey - House - It suggests a change in residence



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The first sibilla to be created was La sibille des salons, by the French in honor of Mlle LeNormand, after the death of their famous psychic and fortune-teller. It was so popular it spreads thoughout Europe and some countries came up with their own sibillas, East Europe with a few like the Zigeuner Warsagekarten (Gipsy Fortune Telling Cards), Italians with a few like Sibilla della Zingara and La Vera Sibilla. The french sibilla is available as well, some publishers use the name Parlour Sibyl for it while Lo Scarabeo has it under the name Sibilla Oracle Cards.

Sibillas are like playing cards but with an image showing the meaning of the card on top, but some decks don't have the cards insert though. The Petit LeNormand uses a symbolic approach while the sibilla really shows the meanings, most of the time anyway. I can show it with my favorite sibilla, and italian one, the I Misteri della Sibilla, like sickness, theft, waiting/torment.



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Thank you WolfyJames for your post including an overall history about the Gypsy Fortune Telling cards.
I would like to share some comments on this card.

Submitted By: Stephanie Arwen - President, American Tarot Associaton on 02/10/2008
Gipsy Fortune Telling Cards-
Piatnek

This is not a Tarot deck. Rather it is an oracle deck based on the Mademoiselle Lenormand deck which is what is known as a gypsy or gipsy deck. This deck is very small in size. To my large hands it felt like a mini-deck even though it isn’t. The thirty six cards feature images that represent many things. There is marriage, money, love, widow, widower, baby, priest and more. Each card carries a definite meaning.

I found the LWB of this deck to be fascinating. It gives three ways to use the cards one of which is the Row technique. Cards are laid out in three rows and there is a position called Merriment identified. All the meanings of the card are taken in conjunction with their position as well as the proximity of other cards.

For instance, if Marriage shows up in the far left upper corner from the Merriment position, I would have to take that to mean a wedding is not in the picture for my querent or that marriage is not an important issue for them. I find these cards to be similar to the Russian Tea Reading Cards but much easier to use. Unlike the Russian oracle, these cards do not need to be swiveled this way and that to read.

Someone who wants to take up this deck for reading would need to learn this cards well before reading in public, I think. I do think this deck is intriguing and would be something I might pull out at a gathering of other readers to try out.


Submitted By: Nada Mesar on 11/30/2005
Easy to work with oracle deck. Do not confound it with Lenormand oracle cards or Oracle Belline but you can count this one in the same tradition of easy to approach decks for everyday readings.

Non German speakers will appreciate the keywords in several languages (English, French, German, Hungarian, Italian and Croatian) on the cards. In Germany this deck is the second popular oracle deck (after Lenormand cards).

And I can add the fact that it is the frst one in Hungary...
You can find one in almost every family in Hungary.



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