What Happened to Natallee Holloway?

Sentient

Thank you, Moonleap.

I read the article and found it informative. :)

Sentient
 

Sheri

A few months ago, either Dateline or 60 Minutes did a story on young women disappearing from cruise ships. They did it after the Natalee disappearance. I had no idea that people were vanishing off cruise ships. Why isn't any of it in the news?
 

paradoxx

It has been a year since the young ms. Holloway dissapeared:

I drew one single card from my celtic dragon deck to reflect the situation as it has come to be (in question form: How has this drama come to be in 2006).

2 of swords.

there is a stalemate, and a decision is going to be made, and probably soon at that.

 

cdabs

Natalie...a little more...

The other night, I heard, yet again, more "news" on Natalie Holloway...so, I decided to do a reading on her/the situation.

Luckily, it looks like I'm not the only one who thought to do this (I love this forum!) and I hope I'm not out of line to throw another reading into the mix.

I used the Radiant-RWS deck & Celtic Cross spread.

The question I asked was, "What is the situation with Natalie Holloway?"

(Please be aware, this reading was cut and pasted from an email I had sent to a friend. We're both interested in spiritual things, so, I shared this with her. If any text appears out of place, I apologize. I edited where I made direct comments to my friend.)
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Card#1....Seven Of Swords...the situation.....Wow....shows...a guy sneaking away with a few swords, but leaves some behind. This card can represent lying or stealing...and in this case, I think BOTH play out.

Card#2...Eight Of Swords....what crosses/obstructs... First off...this is a BOUND/Blindfolded woman....so, there's possibly some element about not seeing or missing something...(if not the literal reference to how Natalie may have been handled). It could also indicate temporary restriction, but only if one knows when/how to make a move and get out of the situation. In Natalie's case...I'm afraid that more than likely didn't happen (Card#4 indicates). Also....looking at her feet in the card...there is water and dirt present.

Card#3..Ten Of Wands....the subconscious factor....BURDEN. This card shows a guy carrying an excess load of wands....he is burdened, slowed down. Based on what I'm feeling...and the dynamic with Card#5...I think this could be about the PARENTS' burden.

Card#4...Death....the receding past/past influence. Most things I read about this card indicate that it RARELY represents physical death. In this instance, I'm willing to bet this is one of those rare occasions.

Card#5...Two Of Wands...conscious influence....the first thing that came to my mind was the 2 wands=2 parents. On the wall next to the guy's feet (in the picture), there is the symmetrical cross bearing two lilies (purity/truth) and two roses (desire). The guy is looking out across the ocean and holding a globe in his hands. It looks like he's waiting for his ship to come in.....possibly the parents are awaiting something similar with regard to news of their daughter, etc..

Card#6...Wheel Of Fortune....the immediate future or quality to embrace...At first I didn't know what to think of this one. In one of my books it says this one is about "change of fortune for the better..." and similar "better luck" references, however...I've seen a reference which indicates this card can be about "Destiny." I think for Natalie's immediate future at the time of her abduction....her destiny was being fulfilled. Very sad.

Card#7...Five Of Wands....situation as Natalie may have perceived it...STRUGGLE. And...it's not just two people struggling...there are many...and ONE appears to be in the center of the others. This could be Natalie in a crowded bar ...possibly after having been drugged (not sure if/when she was drugged though, but it's not uncommon these days...unfortunately)....struggling to stay straight, or it could be a bunch of guys closing in on her or something like that. I think the latter makes more sense based on what has come out in the news.

Card#8...Page Of Pentacles....situation seen from outside querent's perspective...i.e., how others were seeing her...AHHHH...this just came to me (because this card had me baffled, too). This card is said to be of a student. The guy in the card, if you look at the pic, is studying the pentacle. Though this can be about money...I think this is more about the studying part...or student: Natalie was a student...and that's how she was portrayed in the news, how she was seen while in Aruba (student on senior-trip or whatever).

Card#9...The Sun....hopes and fears. I think this once again refers to the hopes of the parents...that their child could be safe and alive somewhere...protected. The child in this card looks like a female to me, but...there is no way to tell gender at all...so, maybe it's an intuitive feeling on my part. Also...THE SUN is in the picture, perhaps a reference to Aruba/beach/sun & fun....

Card#10....Six Of Wands....the outcome card....It's a victory....for the perpetrator, I think. I used my "Radiant-Waite" deck for this reading...so, I looked closely and saw a blonde figure in the background....and, it looks like it could be a female, but only in this deck. Of course, it could be a pictorial reference to Natalie. The blonde figure is behind the the horse; as if, in the past. The guy rides on a horse...and I could swear it looks like the horse's bridle is decorated with lips...i.e., human lips...like someone blotted their lipsticked mouth(s) on this bridle...which could be seen as a reference that this perpetrator...is/was a "player," got around...and was always victorious in his female-conquests. The bridle could more or less be seen like his conquest-notches (i.e., keeping count of his female-conquests).

This reading more than any other I've had...has had the most pictorial references...i.e., the pictures really meant as much or more than the textbook interpretations.

I did another Celtic Cross reading after this...asking, "Where is Natalie Holloway's body?" I will post it here a little later on.
 

huredriel

Actually I'd forgotten about this thread until last week ....... I'd bought the latest issue of Spirit & Destiny ...... they had an interview in there with the real-life Alison Dubois ....... who Patricia Arquette plays in Medium. She contacted the police about this case ...... will have to go and dig it out to see what it says.
 

goddessof1967

Oooh I'm looking forward to what she says. I like the show Medium and watch it every week.
 

cdabs

Natalee...second Celtic Cross reading...

I did this one right after the other one I posted...and asked, "Where is Natalee Holloway's body?" I used a different RWS deck for this reading (different from the first reading). This text was also cut and pasted from an email to a friend, so...I was thinking/piecing together the cards/information as I was writing it. Please forgive its length, but I'm usually very wordy...when thoughts jump into my head...

Here's what came up:

Card#1...Eight Of Cups....the situation: Leaving a situation behind....walking away. Natalee was left behind....discarded apparently....and based on the setup of the cups...it looks like one is missing (a literal reference, possibly). Pictorially speaking, notice the idea of land-water-land..which will play out in subsequent cards in this reading.

Card#2...Four Of Pentacles... crosses or obstructs...and it is a guy with money...who's conservative and holds on tightly to what he has...doesn't want to lose all that he's worked for. This could be the perp. holding onto what he has built materially and reputation-wise. This could also be a possible reference to the main suspect's father who wants to be a judge, etc.. He could possibly have the means to "hold on to" his empire, wouldn't you say? This is about security (of the perp.) and once again, it obstructs what was left behind; IOW, these individuals are possibly obstructing the finding of what/who was left behind: Natalee

Card#3...Ace Of Cups...what is below; subconscious influence....intuition, peace of mind...love and compassion

Card#4...once again, the Seven Of Swords...the receding past or past influence...lying and stealing...sneakiness...deception while others are oblivious. I think this could be our man, the perp., getting away with you know what. Not to mention...using a different deck, the Seven Of Swords came up in the PREVIOUS reading on Natalee! Uncanny....

Card#5....Ace Of Pentacles....what is above and in the conscious realm...prosperity, practicality, being grounded in the material....this one had me thrown. There are 4 Pentacle cards in this reading....money, groundedness (earth-element). Ok....maybe I'm seeing something now...in the two-card dynamic of card#s 3 & 5 (subconscious vs. conscious influences)...we have TWO Aces; one (card#3) could be seen as intuition and is a water sign (one of the four elements); the other is about centeredness/being grounded...and is an earth sign. I think what we're seeing here is opposing forces. Deep down (card#3) we want to find this girl...by whatever means necessary...we can feel that we're close (intuition). On the surface, someone else's goal (card#5)is to make sure she's not found. Not to mention...if she's not found, then the perp. remains free and retains his "security." Also, the theme of water and earth/ground will play out again in card#s 7, 8 and 10 below.

Card#6...Two Of Cups...immediate future, approaching influence...at first when I saw this card...I immediately thought, "Two people, holding cups/drinks...and there is a Caduceus (sign of medical)..." I thought of the possibility of Natalee having "meds" (a pill) put in her drink...and what would've happened afterward. Or is someone working in "cohoots"...a partnership of sorts...to keep things balanced in the perp.'s favor?

*Card#7...Six Of Swords...subjective viewpoint...a boat, crossing a body of water...with two passengers...and many problems. Well, pictorially speaking...this speaks volumes, doesn't it? Like, she was possibly transported by boat somewhere....

*Card#8....Queen Of Pentacles...external viewpoint....another card which initially had me thrown...But which eventually came to me (while emailing a friend this reading)... Pentacles=earthly things....and I've seen this card referred to as "Mother Earth," so...I gotta be wondering if this is referring to a possible burial. In the picture, the queen ("mother") is sitting on her throne in the middle of nature... And, if you look closely in the background, there are TWO bodies of water..with a body of land in-between (an island?)! This is very similar to the pictorial reference in Card#1.

Card#9...Ten Of Pentacles...hopes and/or fears....this card is about family/generations and inheritance (security again?). Well, I think it refers to the perp. again...his heritage and its opulence...and the protection of it. Their hope is to retain their heritage...keep the perp. outta jail, etc..

*Card#10...Ten Of Swords....outcome.....this is a nasty card....it's about being pinned down....end of a cycle....dark clouds hovering, but breaking. The body is partially covered in the pic....with swords all up and down the back. The body is on/in ground...and water is visible, too. In fact, the body in the foreground is on land, then there is water, then beyond the water, there is more land. So, it's....land--water--land....which may go along with the idea that she was ferried somewhere across a body of water...to another island/piece of land. Interesting...

***Now....looking at all the SWORDS cards (swords=strife; problems; issues) in the reading....they all seem to refer to what would've befallen at the hands of the perp.: We have Seven Of Swords...showing sneakiness, stealing/lying; We have Six Of Swords showing crossing a body of water with problems/issues in-tow (i.e., Natalee?); And finally we have Ten Of Swords....pinned down, overkill...partially covered...in the dirt. Water is visible between two islands or tracts of land.

Ok, so..I gotta wonder if Natalee was moved by boat somewhere....and buried in the ground. In fact, since Card#7 is the moving-by-boat card...and it is supposed to be the subjective viewpoint..I'm thinking the last thing she may have remembered was being on a boat(?). Later on, from veiewpoints outside of hers (i.e., the perp. or perps.), she was buried. I wonder if there are some secret, out of the way islands where she could be looked for, you know?

I wonder if anyone has done a reading and maybe studied the numbers a little more closely...and come up with possible coordinates (latitude/longitude)?!?!?! Just a thought...
 

huredriel

Goddess, here is the excerpt ........ (Mods, hope it's ok to copy)

Taken from Spirit & Destiny magazine (UK) - August issue - Interview with Allison DuBois

"But then the Natalee Holloway case hit the headlines in May 2005. The 18 year-old American from Alabama was on the Caribbean island of Aruba celebrating her high-school graduation with her classmates when she went missing.
She was last seen leaving a bar with brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, and teenager Joran van der Sloot, who lived on the Dutch colony.
When Natalee failed to turn up for her flight hom the next day, the police were called.
Under questioning, the men admitted they were with Natalee in the early hours of 30 May. At first, the brothers said they'd dropped her off at her hotel, but they later changed their story and said they'd left her on a deserted beach with van der Sloot, the son of a judge.
I was asked to go on US TV news with Natalee's father and, on air, stated that my intuition also led me to suspect Joran van der Sloot. However, more than a year on, nobody has been charged and, sadly, Natalee's body is still missing. Police are still searching for answers."
 

goddessof1967

Thanks Huredriel,

Interesting isn't it? This Van Der boy must have some pretty tight support. Must be very frustrating for all.

Hardly as cut and dry as the show :laugh: