Dream Divination 2013-001

YDM42

Since dreams are so coded, specific to individuals, I believe it's important for the dreamer to express his or her emotional state and feelings about the dream. Different things mean differnt things to people and its how we communicate with the subconscious, in our language. One example I can give is that I know if I see a car in my dream it represents to me a body, my body that houses my soul, someone else mentioned that a car to them means being driven or having the drive to do something. It how we communicate with our selves, so I really dont mind the dreamers input, its like them teaching me their language. I couldn't imagine someone telling me something in another language and I having to decipher it for myself- with out any tone or knowledge of cultural codes...etc.
 

celticnoodle

Hello all... I have a quick query that some of you may be able to help clarify for me, please.

This thread is simply an extension of an original one by Dancing Bear or Mingbop or some other ATer, yes? Well, I am confused as to exactly what I am meant to be doing... I notice that more of you are tending to add your own interpretation of your dreams to your posts, but I thought we were simply meant to post our dreams as we dreamed them and then let the recipient offer us feedback...

Are both approaches equally acceptable? I re-read the links to the original Dream Divination thread and found this in the intro post for that thread... "Its not hard to participate though.. all you have to do is sleep and record your dreams.Before we go to sleep we ask the question for the person.. In the morning ( or when we remember a dream within that week) we write up our Dream we had.. Do not logic it away nor try to find meanings in the dreams for the person we are asking the question for.. Just post up your dream "AS IS"!! The person recieving the dreams can annalyse it and then give feedback."

That introduction seems to suggest that we don't post our interpretations, but perhaps there has been a different outline for this thread that I've overlooked... Can someone please clarify for me what the intention of this thread is, please? Thank you :)

I don't think it matters if we add our own thoughts to what our dreams were about, as long as the person it is for is not clouded by it. The important thing really is what THEY make of the dreams for them, however, sometimes it is nice for them to read what they think the dreamer feels it means too.

I think in the end its up to celticnoodle!
:) well, really I think its up to us all! but ty, danieljuk.

in the old threads also they posted all the dreams and then the person of the week interpreted at the end. That is good in that things I post might influence future dreams (I don't think that matters really though) but bad in that you have to spend all weekend replying to posts ;)

for me I think do whatever works for you with it!
yes, at first I was thinking the person being dreamt for would interpret at the end. However, it worked beautifully the way YDM42 answered as the dreams came and were posted--and I also realized that to wait till Sat/Sun to answer all the dreams recorded may be a bit much for the person of the week. I will leave it up to each person of the week how they wish to handle it. [/quote]

For myself...I kind of found it harder last year trying to figure out what others dreams were for myself and had no idea at times what a symbol meant etc. Had to google and buy a dream dictionary which werent always so helpful. I prefer to go with my own intuition if I can and dont see why it wouldnt enhance the dreamers own skills as part of the exercise. And when YMD42 kind of meshed back and forth with dreams we had in her "dream week" I kind of found that productive as things made sense and it gave me a chance to work with how I see my dreams to mean.

I think it should be flexible....
Yes, me too. I think how YMD42 handled it was great, really. I liked it. But, if the person of hte week prefers to wait till Sat/Sun to answer the dreams--that is fine too. It may be a bit harder, but its up to you the receiver of said dreams. So, I will leave it up to each individual how they wish to handle answering the dreams. I, for one, will answer them in the manner YDM42 did, I think.

As for us also entering our thoughts on the dreams--I do think this is acceptable too--because when we dream we get a feeling for what it means to us and that is also important. the receiver can see it in a different way, which is also okay--but it does allow them to see how the dreamer saw it as well. then they can chose as to what they think it means. Its sort of like when you get a psychic reading. sometimes the psychic gets picture symbolism and may interpret it one way. they tell the receiver, "i am seeing a bunch of red roses, which to me means "blah, blah blah" but the receiver can answer and say, "oh! red roses! that is what they always gave to me on my birthday every year, when they were alive." so it could mean something totally different. see? I hope this is clear! :p

As for my dreams last night, I don't recall any again. I had a restless night though-and so I hope tonight will be better and I'll dream something! sorry. :(
 

danieljuk

Well, last night WAS Sunday night for me, andI had more good fortune for danilejuks than previously.... Here is my dream as it unfolded for danilejuks... I am feeling that the I in the dream was danieljuks :) .... I programmed my Lemurian seed crystal to be my dream keeper and set it under my pillow. haven't done that before, but it worked a treat!

The setting was a Summer school type thing where a bunch of students were gathered to sing (very much in the same vein as the Camp Creative session I just got home from, in truth).

We were gathered in a large, rickety, old house with floors that sagged and creaked. It was two-storeys+, so that was a bit unsettling as it felt very unstable with the 'ground' shifting with wave-like action, and feeling as though you could fall through the roof.

There were many beginners, and we were all placed into small groups. At that point it was not clear what the criteria was for this group selection, we were simply guided together into groups of a few to several people.

The tutor then walked around and hummed a single note and named it... We had had to listen carefully to it, as he did not repeat it, and those who missed listening the first time remained clue-less, until they picked up on others' efforts later. Our group was hummed an E. A short while later, we were to realise that E was our special note, our Soul note, almost.

When we later began singing actual songs, the tutor would simply walk around the circle and point to each group at appropriate moments. He was conducting us in our own symphony! :) We were the instruments in the overall melody and rhythm. (And it sounded beautiful, by the way :)).

There was a dream within a dream happening here, too. Within the rickety house a small child, tiny, manifested.

I was with a friend on the top floor, somewhere where there was no outer walls so that the world came in to greet us. First I saw something dark tumble from the fork of a tall tree and worried for whatever was dropping to the ground. No worries, as the object broke into many smaller pieces, and I saw that it was a mother, or otherwise very large, fruit bat/flying fox, with dozens of smaller flying foxes clinging to her. (I don't know too much of flying foxes other than that they eat all our mangoes, but I'm not familiar with them having multiple or large-numbers-multiple offspring, so this makes little sense to me, although they do cluster in huge colonies). Anyway, when they started tumbling out of the tree, all separated and flew under their own steam, regrouping once the danger of the fall had passed.

Meanwhile, the tiny child, little more than an infant, manifested in front of us, toddling precariously close to the edge of the roof. I called to a friend who frustrated me by being very much slower and less alert than the situation demanded, and ran to the edge but got there too late. The infant had already got herself over the edge and fallen partway, and was still unhurt but in grave danger. At that point I discovered there were no external stairs or doors that worked. Whilst we'd appeared to have been in the open, there were still 'doors', but these opened onto nothing, and one couldn't take that way out unless willing to jump to the ground from this great height, as no stairs were connected.

I saw another person down below, and yelled for her attention, asking her to please place herself between the tiny child and the ground. This she agreed to, but the little one had somehow made it down without assistance in one piece. Miraculous, but it happened. End of dream.

This dream appears to be oozing with symbolism, so I hope it offers you some guidance, danieljuks... Many Blessings to you on your journey, danieljuk.

I love this dream linnie! :)
one thing I take from the dream first is that its several anxious situations which are a bit stressful:

- the building makes you uneasy, worried if the roof was actually safe
- divided into groups but nobody knew what criteria
- having to sing but you can't mess it up! getting it right first time
- the flying fox bats and the mothers fell out a tree
- the baby manifesting and in danger
- being trapped in the house and not being able to escape

I don't think the tone of the dream is a nightmare or negative though, but its a bit like my life where there is a series of obstacles and they are stressful. in the end nothing in the dream ends badly, it all goes well. Just they are obstacles to overcome and cope with.

had a look at the symbolism from various reference sources:-

old run down house -old attitudes, beliefs and feelings
singing - harmony and joy. uplifting. communicating your feelings
Bats - I read a really negative interpretation somewhere on the internet about Bats, linking them to demons, which I think is really unfair to them. I am very positive about Bats (my Grandfather had them living in his roof, they were lovely. we don't have flying fox or fruit bats or mangos in the wild in the UK :) ) it can also be unrealised potential and also releasing old habits. give up the past for a new path
child in danger - as this is a dream within a dream, I wonder if this represents myself or my inner self. I read one reference that its message about struggling to be yourself.

really interesting dream, it does fit my situation. I think the message is that I will need to move on from old attitudes and beliefs. release old habits!
 

danieljuk

so another dream involving a car..so perhaps this is indicating some sort of movement or journey you have to make possibly emotional or spiritual.. I was driving around yet another different old neighbourhood and for some reason there was a black cat in the car. I wanted to keep it but it had a collar with a charm which I think was a Pentagon so I knew it was a familiar of someone. so then although I didn't see it happen I took and found out its address.

then I was scared as it could be in the built up part of London which I did not fancy driving..this was making me anxious but then there were two friends..not people I recognised and it turned out the cat lived in a place which was comfortable to drive to and I was like i wish I had known it would be ok.. so I think this could be linked again to you being able to deal with the anxiety with support...again maybe return to work somewhere which unfamiliar sticking to places that you know to reduce the levels...also the not knowing and fear of this was worse than what happen perhaps a touch of this is relevant.


I then had another dream in which I was having to be a bridesmaid for a friend and was with another girl. we had to make our own outfit so was in a material shop I had 53.00 pounds not sure but number seems to stick out she decided I should give all my money to her. I was not impressed but then she was able to make a nice bolero..perhaps it's the worry of being taken advantage of when in fact people are helping or somesort of mistrust of others ...

that's it tonight but tired now these were dreams that are all go and make you feel tired after perhaps feeling drained is something else which may mean something ;).

Was interested in the black cat as it had particular inmportance and the dream was relating to it so looked up the meaning of it ..

//To see a black cat in your dream indicates that you are experiencing some fear in using your psychic abilities and believing in your intuition. You may erroneously associate the black cat with evil, destruction, and bad luck. In particular, if the black cat is biting, clawing or attacking you, then the dream means that you must acknowledge what your intuition is trying to tell you. You can no longer ignore it. Do not be afraid to face the situation. //

and this also seemed relevant

//You may be expressing some fear or frustration especially when something is not going as planned. To dream that you are saving the life of a cat implies that you are reclaiming your independence and power.// as the dream revolved around saving the cat getting it home...

I think the car is a journey I am making perhaps, I am not sure about it being "ambition" now! maybe travelling to where I need to be, just spiritually perhaps

one interesting thing is that I do actually own a black cat! I really love them and don't see them as a negative thing at all. She is an old girl at 18 and her name is Fa"Millie"ar. she doesn't have a pentagram on her collar though. I am not sure it is her or the symbolism you talk about!

getting lost in London and getting the cat to it's owners, can see it as anxiety obstacles again. it wasn't as bad or as hard as you thought. similar theme to other dreams today.

the wedding dream is funny. I have never brought material but I went with my best friend to her wedding dress fittings. It would actually be 10 years ago this year! The really funny thing is she was being fitted for a bolero as part of it :D Some of the fabric for the Brides and Bridesmaids boleros was being used to make a hair scarf for my best friends sister who suffered at that time from trichotillomania. There was arguments about fabric and that the sister was letting it drag on the floor.

Both that and the cat are real things but also maybe its the symbolism that is important or maybe both parts of it are important. interesting about the symbolism of the cat. Perhaps I am starting to reclaim my life. The other thing is just in the last 6 months I am getting interested in my psychic and intuitive skills. It's something in 2013 I want to improve and learn more about it! I didn't really believe I even had them before about 2012! thanks for another great dream
 

danieljuk

What can I do to bring improvement to my life? how can I cope with obstacles and change better?

I dreamt I was walking along this verandah with a person I knew...just talking. And I remember looking down and seeing that I was wearing socks only with no shoes! Not to mention treading on snow and what looked like an icy like surface dead smack in the middle of it all. The other person kept saying to me: "You do realise your not wearing shoes and it is freezing cold?!" My reply:" We will be inside soon, so it doesnt matter". But I could feel the cold and wet penetrating the socks as we rounded the corner towards the entrance which was still actually further down. So, I was fully aware of the no shoes situation I can tell you.

On going inside others noticed the same thing and also didnt hesitate to let me know: "You do know that you have only got socks on?!". And although I knew it, I just carried on as I was inside and that was fine with me, but on looking for my shoes I couldnt find any. :bugeyed:

MEANING (My Take): I'm wondering if sometimes you dont always fully look at things or only see what you want to see. And more importantly, dont always take on board what people are pointing out as the obvious, for whatever reasons. eg Self preservation. Perhaps you have your own level of "comfort zone" as well, and as long as that isnt compromised, ALL IS FINE with the world although I really do question it. Something really is missing or lacking in your life and either you need to come out of that comfort zone and find what is lacking or at least consider what people have to say and take that on board.


Good luck! :)

that sock thing is so funny! I wear socks quite a lot when I am not outside. I prefer it to barefeet and shoes. I always get told off for walking around in just my socks! Sometimes I dash outside to take things out in just my socks and when its wet I wish I taken the time to put shoes on! there is currently snow outside and I have not braved that in just socks :D that scenario exactly happens or someone says "why didn't you put shoes on?" and then I am in with wet feet! also I don't think its very good for your feet to not have shoe support when standing, but I feel so restricted in shoes!

yes your interpretation is a message I should take heed :) I do need to listen to others more and step out of my comfort zone! thanks
 

linnie

Firstly, thank you to all who responded to my query re whether to post my interpretation or not. I've looked at your answers, and I'll post my responses after the dream recipient posts feedback.... that way, I'm sharing my insights without colouring the recipient's, yes? :)

I love this dream linnie! :)
one thing I take from the dream first is that its several anxious situations which are a bit stressful:

- the building makes you uneasy, worried if the roof was actually safe
- divided into groups but nobody knew what criteria
- having to sing but you can't mess it up! getting it right first time
- the flying fox bats and the mothers fell out a tree
- the baby manifesting and in danger
- being trapped in the house and not being able to escape

I don't think the tone of the dream is a nightmare or negative though, but its a bit like my life where there is a series of obstacles and they are stressful. in the end nothing in the dream ends badly, it all goes well. Just they are obstacles to overcome and cope with.

had a look at the symbolism from various reference sources:-

old run down house -old attitudes, beliefs and feelings
singing - harmony and joy. uplifting. communicating your feelings
Bats - I read a really negative interpretation somewhere on the internet about Bats, linking them to demons, which I think is really unfair to them. I am very positive about Bats (my Grandfather had them living in his roof, they were lovely. we don't have flying fox or fruit bats or mangos in the wild in the UK :) ) it can also be unrealised potential and also releasing old habits. give up the past for a new path
child in danger - as this is a dream within a dream, I wonder if this represents myself or my inner self. I read one reference that its message about struggling to be yourself.

really interesting dream, it does fit my situation. I think the message is that I will need to move on from old attitudes and beliefs. release old habits!

So.... hello in there, danieljuk :)

I'm glad you loved the dream... I enjoyed dreaming it for you! :) Thanks for your feedback... That is interesting about old houses = change in outmoded behaviour patterns etc... I think you are right about the dream not being a nightmarish type... even though there were many issues where a degree of risk/worry was involved, it was still a happy dream with a good feeling about it.

For me, the symbols suggest:

*Wavering floor/roof etc... unstable foundations. Lack of sound footings or support... so, too, the lack of ladders as a way to safely climb up/down....
*Bats... family/community. It was interesting that the group huddled in safe times and split apart in times of danger or threat... perhaps something about going through with things flying solo... ? Bats are also known for their ability to 'see' without sight :)
*Two-storeyed building... multiple layers, going on simultaneously...
*Small child... Inner Child... Self... and the fact that the little child, although seemingly at risk, managed to land on her own feet, safely... through her own actions.
*Singing... especially with others, in harmony, always speaks to me of my Joy, as harmony brings joy and singing is my most immediate way of harmonising with others and in the world. Singing is my passion, so it also speaks to me of finding one's passion, as I firmly believe that if you work 'through' or 'with' your passion, you not only walk your talk and thus honour Self, but also bring joy not only to yourself but to others... :)
* E note... different musical notes are said to relate to different chakras in sound healing... I get the distinct impression that the E is important here. E relates to the solar plexus, which in turn relates to pancreas, adrenals and adrenal cortex. It aslo relates to your 'gut' feeling/intuitive self/Inner child... and I think again points to honouring Self. In my own experience, a completely out of whack adrenal system needed only for me to TRULY (walking, not just talking, my talk) honour Self in order for it to calm down, feeling nurtured :) I am wondering whether you might be being given the nod to take yourself to a sound-healer so that he/she might give you a 'tune-up', using the note chimes that so many people in new age festivals seem to have... otherwise, sing it yourself!!!!! Make it your chant... :)

Very best wishes to you, danieljuk... May all good things come to you :)
 

DownUnderNZer

danieljuk: Dream 2

Not going to add my own thoughts on this one.

DREAM: I was in this big building, not a school, but the situation felt like a school one and in one big room it was set up for "guys" to watch a movie and in this other one it was set up for the "girls" to watch one (I could see the big screen) only it had all these matresses spread out over the floor (not chairs) and I was kind of wearing a toga with nothing underneath it...not even a g string!

Didnt see any guys, but just knew it was for them...did see other girls.

I was a little alarmed as I was thinking what if something happens and they all see my, or I see anothers...you know what...or what if someone has an accident. :bugeyed: I spose you could say I wasnt completely comfortable being wrapped in a sheet that could unravel at anytime.

I then saw all these DOLPHIN designs on the wall. I was wondering if the teacher was going to do a room like that or something artistic in that way. But she didnt say anything and the images disappeared.

That is it.... :)
 

YDM42

Danieljuk Dream 1 night 2

First dream started off at my family home with a bunch of ladies who I went to collage with. In my bedroom and we were all over the house getting dressed. Lipstick, clothes etc where all over the place. My mother, came in and she was excited to see one of my friends, but she ran into another little girl in at the hall and exclaimed, "I really wanted to see you!" and I had to tell her that that wasn't Chantel because Chantel was taller than YOU-@ (My mom)-The little girl she said that to barely came to my mother's knees. But my mother thought it was Chantel, because the little girl had blond hair and blue eyes. Stereotype, and pointing towards my mothers judgements of people based on such things. So we all went through along process of getting dressed and getting ready.
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This scene evolved into a series of rapidly presenting images, almost like tarot cards, and honestly I knew what each image meant, but I cant recall all of the images, they moved so fast. The first image was a still image of a waitress, holding a stack of plates, someone had taken a bite out of the stack of plates, this image I believe comes from the art deco fortune telling deck, where the other images came from I dont know. The second image was of a set of twins in stockings doing in a ballet pose, and the images moved faster and faster, like shuffling cards, each one presenting itself. I dont believe that all of the cards had meaning to you, because certain one or two paused and the others just presented themselves. Also this might have just been a transition in the dream letting me know that the next part of the dream had to do with future or predictions or your reading.
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This evolved into a gym / church/ theater scene, in one part of the scene people were getting ready for a show, the others where up stairs getting ready for a ritual or church service, we walked out on the basketball court...you and I, and talked to one of the players briefly, one of the very tall players came to us, and we were instructed to take him to the jail. I knew this person he was a dear friend, so he agreed to pretended to be a prisoner, as we took him through heavy set of gray metal gym doors and outside down the concrete stairs to the holding cell, in the cell was my brother and some other men, and I explained to them that I trusted them, to just pretend they were being held prisoners.

There was also a book, sort of like the book you get when you attend a theater performance or directory and it had all the prisoners in it. We where outside a long time fraternizing with the supposedly prisoners when my Mom began calling out for the doctor...but it was test, to see who would lie and say they were the doctor. There were 3 or four women in red and white dresses crossing the street and walking around the complex and at least two of them answered and said they were the doctor.

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I woke up with the knowing that part of the answer to your questions is to have a good support system, this is represented to me by my college colleagues, being at my parents home, I didn't get much support from my family, and less understanding, which is illustrated in my mother mistaking a young short girl for a woman who is almost 7 feet tall in real life, but she my mother only saw the blond hair and blues eyes and that is what she used to identify with my friend from college.

The next aspect of dream dealt with intimacy, so from that I can say that its also important for you to not only have a supportive environment but intimacy, someone you can be close to and share things with, and that will come from trust, which was in the prison scene, trusting even in those things you perceive as enemies to you, and knowing that they serve some function in your life, the roles they play in your life, which was illustrated in the directory of the prisoners. I want to say have trust, even if it is "fabricated trust" dont ask me why---that word kind of stood out, and its illustrated in the fabric of the dresses the ladies had on who lied about being the doctor my mother was calling out for. I believe that if you can conceive it, you and achieve it was the point here. SO its OK to fabricate those qualities you desire until you really acquire them.
 

YDM42

I just wanted to mention that after I posted my dream, I scrolled through the other dreams and saw some similar dream symbols, like the building, getting ready for a show, fabric, getting dressed, and community type events, - having seen that I would like to mention that I had not read these dreams before I dreamed, I only read them today , for me that is important to note. Also after seeing that I have decided not to read the others dreams-until after, I know my mind....dont want to plant any seeds for my mind to try and analyze.
 

DownUnderNZer

I havent really read anyone elses at all for this week....no time.

Didnt think about the fact that anothers might impact on the way one dreams though.

Food for thought...