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Originally Posted by Ronia View Post
Minderwiz, I bet you're sorrry I got a few free hours today but if you can just glance at my exercise with profections and releasing, I'll be vary grateful!

OK, so I haven't had any time lately to practise but I thought it would be good to refresh my memory now. I did release fro Libra, Pars Fortunae. In the middle of November there is a Loose of Bond to Pisces L3/4. I take it this will activate natal and transiting Jupiter, correct?
I checked this with Delphic Oracle. If you are talking about the Level 3 (and therefore 4) change on 16 November this is not a Loosing of the Bond (according to DO).

It is a progression from the last Level 3 period of Aquarius, which began in early September. There was a loosing of the bond at Level 4 when the Level 4 would have returned to Aquarius in the middle of October (16th) and instead switched to Leo. That level 4 continued to Aries before the 'natural' switch to Pisces on 16 November.

Now I had to recheck my notes and material to work this out, as DO shows the October change as Level 3/4 but there is clearly no change in the Level 3 sequence thereafter. There does seem to be a lack of clarity as to whether Leo just sees out the remainder of Aquarius' Level 3 or the change is confined entirely to Level 4. Chris Brennan's explanation implies the latter but it doesn't explicitly say so.

That being said Pisces does become active at Level 3 from the 16th of November through to 16th December. Brennan says in a footnote that he finds that activates any planets placed in the sign (Pisces in this case) or configured to it by whole sign. I read that to included both natal and transiting planets. In the same footnote he says that Schmidt sees the main empahsis being through the ruler of that sign (Jupiter) and urges students to test out both possibilities to see which works best. DO is mainly based on Schmidt's approach, as it was virtually the only one at the time Curtis Manwaring developed the program.

In your chart there are no (traditional) planets in Pisces but the Sun in Scorpio is configured by Trine. Venus in Virgo is configured by Opposition and Mars and the Moon in Cancer are configured by Trine. So all of those would need to be considered on the Brennan approach in terms of your natal placements and of course Jupiter on the Schmidt approach.

Originally Posted by Ronia
Natal Jupiter, if I remember correctly from your analyses, is not in his best shape, right? But he is in the 4th, whole houses, ruled by Mars in the 7th. Since I'm in the middle of some tough conversations with my ex, I hoped this could bode well re: family, relationships, etc? Pisces is also my 3rd house, so I hoped this would also ease communications, especially with relatives or similar, am I on the right pathy here?
Jupiter is Angular and he is in his own Trigon (though it isn't a night chart) He is a diurnal planet in a diurnal chart and he happens to be in a diurnal sign, though below the horizon. So all of that is good.

He is configured to the Ascendant and to the Ascendant ruler (also good) and to Fortune (though by Opposition, which is still better than not being configured at all). He is not configured to the Lots' ruler (bad) and he is ruled by Mars which is in its Depression (not good), though he has reception by Square (luckily it is Jupiter that is in the 'overcoming' position, so this helps). He is in an opposition to Mercury which rules the sixth and he is Retrograde.

So yes he isn't in the best condition but his condition could be a lot worse than it is.

Originally Posted by Ronia
More so, at the end of December this year I'm finally leaving the Aquarius L2. I'll still be in Capricorn L1 but the L2 will switch to Pisces, and again: activating Jupiter, yes?
Yes but again note that Brennan sees more emphasis coming from those planets in or configured to the sign. Schmidt would see most emphasis coming from Jupiter as the ruler.

If Brennan is right, then transiting Jupiter in Leo is not configured to Pisces and so will have a weak effect. Obviously Schmidt would disagree. Transiting Jupiter is also in an applying square to transiting Saturn in Scorpio (which is configured to Pisces) so Jupiter might sneak in there LOL. Again it's Jupiter that is in the overcoming position

Originally Posted by Ronia

At the time Jupiter will continue transiting my whole house 8th, it's natal 7th still but... He will turn retrograde and thus staying in Leo for more. Leo has my natal Saturn there but in the beginning of the sign. Should I consider him activated? Saturn rules my Ascendant and I'm still in L1, so probably should matter.
Remember that the Level 1 and Level 2 Periods are more background influences that the level 3 (approx monthly) and Level 4 (several days) which are more noticeable on a day to day basis. The Pisces level 3 beginning on 31 December will expire on 30 January. So the Jupiter effect will diminish, till another Sagittarius or Pisces Level 3.

Originally Posted by Ronia
At the time Mars (if taken into account through rulership of Aries) will be transiting Pisces, Jupiter's rulership, trining himself (7th), my Sun (11th), and finally my Moon (7th).

Again, my main question is: will the switch to Pisces L3/4 first and then Pisces L2 ease the personal sphere in general?
Mars will certainly be active from the time that it enters Pisces, on the 12th January, So he will remain active at Level 3 for around 18 days. As the next Level 3 Period is Aries, you will have an active Jupiter and a Mars that is still active at some level (certainly level 2 and depending on the influence of the sign ruler, at level 3 as well)

Look for the role that Mars plays in your chart (and life). In a Hellenistic Chart Mars is in your seventh Place and in Depression. He is angular but not a good influence, being the out of sect malefic and not in good condition in terms of sign placement. It may well be that Mars here can be a source of trouble in your relationships. So life might well be easier if Mars is not very active LOL.

That's something I really need to revisit as I have more material now and I'm a little more sure of what I'm doing with the Hellenistic approach.

I'll deal with Profections later.
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