Dream team divination 2013-003 jun-jul

[DownUnderNZer]

Tychonus:

I have had disruptive dreams really, but I do remember part of one at least.

DREAM SNIPPET.

I am standing there watching some people sitting on a path way and it doesn't dawn on me straight away that what appears to be men and women actually turns out JUST to be men and not really younger ones either. 30s or 40s and up.

In addition, they are not really sitting still either, but wiggling about.

I'm thinking as I watch: Are their limbs missing? And I start to pay closer attention as I have obviously missed a few things.

However, their limbs are not missing at all, but rather some have big big arms (one arm not both) or legs (one not both) which is why they are moving about like they are with limbs that are not in proportion. I only really see one man (going bald) working frantically to get somewhere with such determination amongst this group of wiggling men and he is looking directly at me.

THOUGHTS: Is something not perhaps sitting right with this career change you are contemplating....are there certain aspects that you may have to forgo or really really work towards achieving even if it means that you have to adjust in more ways than one even to the extent of bending over backwards. Are you taking on more than you can work with or having to do more so as to get where you want?

Maybe you might have to consider what a job is offering you as well as what you are bringing to it.

 

[danieljuk]

had disruptive dreams last night which were also quite violent. Gonna post them for you Tychonus but I can't intuitively feel if they were for you or not. Other times in the circle I really get a feeling this dream is for "person". But I can't decide if this is for me or you. So posting them to see if you can take anything from them. Otherwise they are for me.

first dream was that I got in quite a nasty aggressive argument with someone with a different political view to me. I am left wing and really believe in equality and people's rights. This other person (I didn't know) was very right wing and we were having a big argument. In my dream state I was fuming at that person and the interesting thing is that I don't have dreams like that at a lot. I was angry! they didn't care about the most vulnerable and poorest people in society at all, their view was like "let them die". I realised during the dream that I have real ethical standards, empathy and want society to help people to be more evil. I would like to be a counsellor / therapist or social worker one day and just wondered if that is a path you are considering. Something to do with people. If this doesn't fit you at all, like I said it might be a dream for me, but was confused and muddled with anger after the dream

Secondly I felt really frustrated and angry after that dream and I dreamt I kicked my cat on my bed she is an old lady and a black cat and lives on the bottom of my bed in one corner. I don't normally roll on her or kick her but it sometimes happens. In my dream I kicked her really hard and nastily (out of anger I think) and I jolted up awake! I thought I really done it. I was quite shocked. The dream kicking was deliberate and violent. I went whilst awake and checked her. she was sleeping in a ball but I was anxious that I had really kicked her in real life. The line was blurred. I don't think I did, she was peacefully sleeping and I think if I had she would have made a loud sound and fled the bed and avoided me all day. It seemed so real though. I actually did a pendulum reading to ask if I had kicked her or hurt her and it said no to both!

So these dreams might be something to do with your career question but can't guarantee last nights dreams.

some interpretation suggestions from me - I wonder if there is anger over the last job situation or frustration. I wonder if the "kicking" symbolism is that you will get the kick in the direction you need to go in. motivation or it might show you feel victimised or taken advantage of. my black cat might be a symbol or using your psychic skills and intuition and independent spirit. I wonder if my argument about political issues might be that you want to work in some social way, changing peoples lives and / or being a campaigner or activist!

hope the dreams fit you in some way or your question

 

[Tychonus]

Oddest lucid dream is for you Ty. It also may be the shortest, the most disjointed, and the winner of the "Makes No Sense AT ALL" award!

As I was emerging from a nap, I heard voices. It sounded like two children talking to an adult male. I couldn't make out what they were saying but it sounded like quite an intellectual exchange with contributions from all three.
This didn't seem at all unusual to me. Although I felt my head lifted from my pillow , it was nothing worth getting out of bed for.

Well, I wonder if we could take this literally. I talked to my girlfriend's uncle, who is a successful CEO of a large business. He has contacts in the industry I am moving into, and his sister connected us. I am in my late 20s, but we are still children compared to him. We had an interesting conversation about our goals.

Next I heard cheerful children's music. It sounded like that of a music box or back-in-the-box. Though I know I was in bed I could see two small children, a girl with long blonde hair, wearing a brightly colored dress, and a younger boy with dark hair in shorts and a t shirt. They were standing side by each at the curb on a glaringly bright sunny day. Much brighter than seemed normal. When first I saw them they were standing alone at the curb. Then suddenly the source of the music appears in front of them. Its an ice cream truck.

I will have to meditate on this. The imagery is very interesting though!

The next thing I see is shown me in the way I receive messages from the other side, in a plain black frame. Only a person usually appears in the frame.. Today what I saw was a large perfectly wrapped piece of Salt Water Taffy, it was white with red stripes like a peppermint. It was literally so large that it filled the majority of the frame.

With that, I suddenly felt the need to get up.. Strange as this may be, I knew
from the first that this was for you, despite my logical mind telling me that this in no way applies to your question . I hope to jump online soon, perhaps I'll look a few of the symbols up.

I am very curious! I will meditate on these symbols and images, and ponder what the message could be. Thank you for this dream.

 

[Tychonus]

Tychonus:

I have had disruptive dreams really, but I do remember part of one at least.

DREAM SNIPPET.

I am standing there watching some people sitting on a path way and it doesn't dawn on me straight away that what appears to be men and women actually turns out JUST to be men and not really younger ones either. 30s or 40s and up.

In addition, they are not really sitting still either, but wiggling about.

I'm thinking as I watch: Are their limbs missing? And I start to pay closer attention as I have obviously missed a few things.

However, their limbs are not missing at all, but rather some have big big arms (one arm not both) or legs (one not both) which is why they are moving about like they are with limbs that are not in proportion. I only really see one man (going bald) working frantically to get somewhere with such determination amongst this group of wiggling men and he is looking directly at me.

THOUGHTS: Is something not perhaps sitting right with this career change you are contemplating....are there certain aspects that you may have to forgo or really really work towards achieving even if it means that you have to adjust in more ways than one even to the extent of bending over backwards. Are you taking on more than you can work with or having to do more so as to get where you want?

Maybe you might have to consider what a job is offering you as well as what you are bringing to it.

I agree. Because I am moving from a project manager in a corporate office job to a first position at an outdoor environmental firm, I am actually a little unsure of myself and would have to sacrifice the self-direction, privacy and freedom I enjoy now. I'd be moving from a controlled environment with a self-managing job role to something entirely foreign which would require a great deal of continuing education, additional work and much less autonomy/freedom. My long term goals include starting my own business but I'd be starting over fresh and taking a longer road to get back what I'm surrendering.

 

[Tychonus]

had disruptive dreams last night which were also quite violent. Gonna post them for you Tychonus but I can't intuitively feel if they were for you or not. Other times in the circle I really get a feeling this dream is for "person". But I can't decide if this is for me or you. So posting them to see if you can take anything from them. Otherwise they are for me.

first dream was that I got in quite a nasty aggressive argument with someone with a different political view to me. I am left wing and really believe in equality and people's rights. This other person (I didn't know) was very right wing and we were having a big argument. In my dream state I was fuming at that person and the interesting thing is that I don't have dreams like that at a lot. I was angry! they didn't care about the most vulnerable and poorest people in society at all, their view was like "let them die". I realised during the dream that I have real ethical standards, empathy and want society to help people to be more evil. I would like to be a counsellor / therapist or social worker one day and just wondered if that is a path you are considering. Something to do with people. If this doesn't fit you at all, like I said it might be a dream for me, but was confused and muddled with anger after the dream

Well, I am trying to get into a field where I help people build self sustaining homes, but I also believe in equality and social freedoms. I think this may be a dream for you - but it is definitely an intense and very real dream that I can associate with ethically and morally. I actually wanted to be a social worker before I got into my current job, but our local social care system has been very ineffective. I opened a case with social services against an acquaintance who was trying to kill herself repeatedly while her 3 year old was watching (and left him alone in a downtown garage while she harmed herself), and they released her of any wrongdoing because they felt her interview responses were sufficient. She doesn't know it was me who filed the case, and later laughed about how easy she was able to lie her way out of it and convince the system to give her free money for alcohol. There has been a lot of controversy in our regional care system that I refuse to be a part of.

However, politics and social issues are a hugely important matter to me.

Secondly I felt really frustrated and angry after that dream and I dreamt I kicked my cat on my bed she is an old lady and a black cat and lives on the bottom of my bed in one corner. I don't normally roll on her or kick her but it sometimes happens. In my dream I kicked her really hard and nastily (out of anger I think) and I jolted up awake! I thought I really done it. I was quite shocked. The dream kicking was deliberate and violent. I went whilst awake and checked her. she was sleeping in a ball but I was anxious that I had really kicked her in real life. The line was blurred. I don't think I did, she was peacefully sleeping and I think if I had she would have made a loud sound and fled the bed and avoided me all day. It seemed so real though. I actually did a pendulum reading to ask if I had kicked her or hurt her and it said no to both!

So these dreams might be something to do with your career question but can't guarantee last nights dreams.

some interpretation suggestions from me - I wonder if there is anger over the last job situation or frustration. I wonder if the "kicking" symbolism is that you will get the kick in the direction you need to go in. motivation or it might show you feel victimised or taken advantage of. my black cat might be a symbol or using your psychic skills and intuition and independent spirit. I wonder if my argument about political issues might be that you want to work in some social way, changing peoples lives and / or being a campaigner or activist!

hope the dreams fit you in some way or your question

Poor dream cat! We have two kittens as well, so I can understand your panic

I am very frustrated in my current job. There is a lot about it that is "killing me" inside. The business profits from people losing their homes and vehicles although at the same time they help people recover the things they've lost.

I do support independent programs which try to help inner city youth and social issues, so I don't need a kick there - I'm already motivated My work goal is to bring self-sustainability and recovery potential to families who may be affected by growing economic or climate difficulties.

Ultimately, I'd like to provide programs to shape the lives of youth, but as a "hobby". I wouldn't like to profit or make my living on this, which is why I'm looking at residential/commercial renewable resource installation services to hopefully help lead the charge for reshaping how our society produces energy. A big issue now is that people installing renewables in this region, are very ill trained and often use cheap parts or false science in order to charge more for less. I've written out a plan for demonstrating the true cost (but also the potential savings) in installing these systems using quality materials without the $900/month life time cost that some firms have been "offering"

 

[Mellaenn]

I had limited access to clear dreams last night, and picked up some vitamin B6 to hopefully help boost me tonight. However, I did get some of a message:

I got this vision/image of the question:

A man/woman (depending on the angle in the scene...it's a little trippy) floating through ocean waves. There's light shimmering through the surface, but the man feels dead and tired, while the woman feels alive and free. The male figure is staring into the abyss, lost in the memories of bad news, stress and anger/frustration at life. The female figure is emotionally connected and sees the water as a place of weightlessness and freedom, where emotions and energy can be released readily and easily into the deep.

The water in the man's background is dirty, dark and cold. The ocean in the woman's background is clear, aqua-marine and warm.

The man is now entangled in kelp, but the woman is floating freely through the waters.

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It doesn't answer the question, for me, of whether he needs another surgery, but feels like a reflection of how he feels. However, I feel like he has side-effects from the surgery - not complications, but natural processes that are causing the pain. As if as his body heals, it says 'something isn't right here, something isn't the way it should be and now I need to do something about it to bring attention to the problem.

Hmm. Well, the interesting thing here is that your description of the man and woman might possibly describe how I envision my husband and me in terms of where we are currently on our spiritual journeys. I really feel that one of the reasons that he is having so many problems is that he is not as 'clear' emotionally and spiritually as he could be and it's manifesting in his second chakra. (It was a hernia just above his groin.)

By the way, he as now gone back to the doctor and they're going to do some pain management; maybe some shots of cortisone. It seems the real issue is that a nerve is being irritated by the little mesh insert that gets put in after some hernia operations.

Thank you for sharing your intuitive insight!

 

[Mellaenn]

I gave it an extra night and had a dream for Mellaenn! so weird this time around I constantly have a dream on the last possible night! I try every night! the mind boggles.

During last night I had lots of little dreams of different types of water; ponds, lakes, rivers, sea, all sorts of it. I don't really remember them just it was different types but remember the water form in the main part of the dream.

In the main part of the dream I saw a huge lake, it was quite perfectly square (with rounded corners) and then I realised it was 4 lakes of the same style and size with grass small borders between each part of the lake. I felt it was artificially made but not sure what purpose. The water seemed clean and nice.

In the middle I realised as the dream went on that there was a grass embankment sort of higher in the middle. So there was 2 lakes on each side of it and on the embankment was train rails. As I was looking a polished and beautiful old steam train went across it with many carriages.

That was the dream. Everything felt beautiful and calm. The water must be about emotions and it must be a difficult time. However it wasn't rough waters or polluted and abandoned. I think all the symbols in it are positive. It's an emotional time but remain calm about it all. The lakes were very 'still'.

The train was on top of the lakes, so perhaps you and your hub are on top of this issue. I think the train shows life's journey going along. I like steam trains and think they are beautiful and so I can't think why it would be that. I think it's a positive dream. If you keep calm and keep going along, it will work out how you want is my interpretation

ETA: went back and read through the dreams after posting mine. DownUnderNZer's dream is very similar to mine! the still beautiful waters. I do remember looking at the sky and it was very clear with a few clouds, like a beautiful day

Danieljuk, I love the imagery in this! I can almost hear the chugging of the train and a musical score in the background. I also like the notion of calm waters and still lakes. And here is another dream about a body of water. I am starting to think that there is truly a spiritual lesson for him in this, and maybe also (a different lesson) for me. Part of that lesson is to find one's inner center, to stay calm.

In my dream book, Tanner says that trains represent your way of thinking and that train tracks portray a possible set way of thinking, or a prescribed course. His surgeon does not seem alarmed, and if he (my husband) stays the course this will possibly work out without another surgery.

 

[Mellaenn]

Oops - I thought I missed one, sorry, Starri!

Mel I have a couple of dream interuptus snippets for you.

Dream One
07/26

My daughter pulls into the driveway and parks in front of the Garage. I emerge from the house just as she's getting out of her car (rl car silver 2010 Impala SS) She was smiley and animated as she greeted me. We stood there in front of the garage shaded by the house talking quickly the way good friends do when they haven't seen each other in awhile and have much catching up to do. I suggested that we move the conversation inside as I was outside in my robe. She agrees then says, "Mom why don't you pull your car out of the garage and let me park my car inside." I'm not sure why I took such offenceOhh to that but I was like, 'Ohh child, now don't get me started'. She, unfazed by my annoyance at the suggestion, that she didn't want her car to get vandalized while we were inside chatting. My arms went from folded in front, to hands on hips I was dumbfounded.. DreamEnd

Sorry Mel the dogs woke me...

Hmmm. I had to 'cogitate' on this one a bit. To me, the connection is car= body. In the dream your daughter might be the newer/younger and her 'car/body' represents a new mindset of care-taking. Maybe my husband needs to pay attention that he has to take care of himself in a new way, because in all of this time he keeps up his normal level of activity as he is not much of a lounger and I think it makes him indignant and resentful (hands on hips and arms crossed in front to block what anyone tries to tell him.)

Dreamette Part Deux
07/28
I only recall a tiny bit, more of a feeling really.

I was going to a baseball game with my family. We were just arriving at our seats when we realized that we weren't seated together, not even close infact,. My seat was two rows behind the rest of the family DreamEnd

The feeling I got here was of glad,/disappointment.

Hope you can draw something useful out of these.

I am drawing a blank for the second dream.

Thank you for your dreams!

 

[danieljuk]

Danieljuk, I love the imagery in this! I can almost hear the chugging of the train and a musical score in the background. I also like the notion of calm waters and still lakes. And here is another dream about a body of water. I am starting to think that there is truly a spiritual lesson for him in this, and maybe also (a different lesson) for me. Part of that lesson is to find one's inner center, to stay calm.

In my dream book, Tanner says that trains represent your way of thinking and that train tracks portray a possible set way of thinking, or a prescribed course. His surgeon does not seem alarmed, and if he (my husband) stays the course this will possibly work out without another surgery.

thinking about the dream it was almost a spiritual experience for me.
an interesting thing is that the train was perfectly straight in the part I saw over the lakes. Everything in the dream seemed to be going perfectly. there was no curves, breaks in the line or going up or down hill. Almost like a perfect, calm, idealistic place. hope it goes very positively for him

 

[danieljuk]

Well, I am trying to get into a field where I help people build self sustaining homes, but I also believe in equality and social freedoms. I think this may be a dream for you - but it is definitely an intense and very real dream that I can associate with ethically and morally. I actually wanted to be a social worker before I got into my current job, but our local social care system has been very ineffective. I opened a case with social services against an acquaintance who was trying to kill herself repeatedly while her 3 year old was watching (and left him alone in a downtown garage while she harmed herself), and they released her of any wrongdoing because they felt her interview responses were sufficient. She doesn't know it was me who filed the case, and later laughed about how easy she was able to lie her way out of it and convince the system to give her free money for alcohol. There has been a lot of controversy in our regional care system that I refuse to be a part of.

However, politics and social issues are a hugely important matter to me.

thought about the actual argument some more. I am pretty sure it involved social housing at one point. Now I don't know if this was on my mind or not. There is a controversy in the UK about social housing and it's been on the news a lot that day, so not sure if I was dreaming about your career or if it was just fresh on my mind.

sounds awful with your friend my argument in the dream was with someone completely opposite to my views and that always gets me mad! they had no empathy at all and didn't care if people were just homeless with nothing because they had this "survival of the fittest" attitude.

Poor dream cat! We have two kittens as well, so I can understand your panic

I am very frustrated in my current job. There is a lot about it that is "killing me" inside. The business profits from people losing their homes and vehicles although at the same time they help people recover the things they've lost.

I do support independent programs which try to help inner city youth and social issues, so I don't need a kick there - I'm already motivated My work goal is to bring self-sustainability and recovery potential to families who may be affected by growing economic or climate difficulties.

Ultimately, I'd like to provide programs to shape the lives of youth, but as a "hobby". I wouldn't like to profit or make my living on this, which is why I'm looking at residential/commercial renewable resource installation services to hopefully help lead the charge for reshaping how our society produces energy. A big issue now is that people installing renewables in this region, are very ill trained and often use cheap parts or false science in order to charge more for less. I've written out a plan for demonstrating the true cost (but also the potential savings) in installing these systems using quality materials without the $900/month life time cost that some firms have been "offering"

it sounds a wonderful idea! I hope the new career path is much better for you
something you have a real passion in! hope to have more dreams for you