study group application ~ aquarius

[Tarotphelia]

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Tarotphelia> wow, thanks for your offer.
.. you can post your chart on the site.... I don't have the time to do a full interpretation, but can certainly look at the Aqu threads in your chart if you do decide to post it.

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Okay- thanks Luna for fixing it all ! I posted my chart there- how embarrassing!

Tarotphelia

 

[lunalafey]

mass confusion

I thought you meant you just needed a random Aquarian to experiment on, not that you wanted an Aquarian with a chart already done ! I don't have a chart to post.

But, Luna thinks that you should have a non-forum person to work with, since you already know a lot about me .

Tarotphelia

not opposed to the idea...
I missed this thread and posts between the comp. cutting me off, answering a PM first before reading the threads....etc..

I think there will be a new chart on the account soon...

isthmus> GOOD WORK
I imagine you can be unpredictable esp b/c you
prefer to take an active role in relationships
*giggles* I don't mean too I find myself capi-planning and having an element of control only because I'm good at it. I don't control an individual, just the needs in life.

Those placements also strike me as giving you a
more Socialist streak than me. I say this b/c Aqu/Scorp are the 'revolutionary signs'

being one who is irked by the gov. and politics and the state that it is in....I look forward to a revolution!!!especially NOW...this does conflict with my anti-militant attitude.
you also have Cancer cusping your 11th - this directs me to think that you feel larger social groups should nurture and protect its individuals.
'tribal law' I call it. It's like that saying, 'It takes a village to raise a child' The Native American lived by having every adult be responsible for every child. Children would develope their talents by going to the adult that could help that talent along. Why should someone go without when there is more than enough to go around right next door? ...etc

minderwiz....I did not intend the use of the *we* as plural or singular....just following in the footsteps of moongolds post.....and good luck, I can't see you having any problem with finals!

 

[isthmus nekoi]

more confusion!!

OK, I think I missed something here w/the Aqu chart.... I take this to mean it's okay for us to log into astro.com to look at Tarotphelia's chart? If so, I'll try to look at it after the weekend. Bleh, I've got another one of those aforementioned language tests.

lunalafey> Thanks! ^_^ I should clarify more about the Socialist thing w/Aqu and Scorp. Venus (planet of relationships esp personal ones) in Scorp having aspects from Uranus and Aqu Mars *doesn't* indicate a leftist mentality in itself, but other elements (ie house cusps) give the suggestion. Plus there's your FREEDOM FIGHTER subject heading ^_~

 

[Tarotphelia]

Re: more confusion!!

OK, I think I missed something here w/the Aqu chart.... I take this to mean it's okay for us to log into astro.com to look at Tarotphelia's chart?

Yes!

Tarotphelia

 

[lunalafey]

maybe....

we should look to the planets and find out what Mercury is doing to us......we are SO confussed!!!
but i think we got it now....

 

[Moongold]

Another go .....

I had requested the wrong report from Janus and just didn't see it until later. Janus Tech. Support have been really good and are emailing me another HELP file which was corrupted during download to the point of uselessness. They sent me another list of transits in the mean time and I also validated these with Astrowin and Astrolog. Hope it is right this time. I think I understand a lot more about transits now. The Cunningham book is great. She defines transits as moving aspects and gives some good techniques for understanding and interpreting them. More than any other book I have struck, I think, Cunningham shows you how to think about the chart. Her language is clear and she gives the reader simple but very effective techniques for understanding.


During Aquarius (2nd House) Saturn sextiles my natal Saturn Rx. Having three retrogrades (Saturn, Pluto and Uranus) in my natal chart, I tend to internalise things quite a bit. One of my life challenges has been to express deepest feelings to others and this is particularly interesting to me but not to anyone else in this thread at this moment!

A very personal interpretation for this particular Saturn transit in Aquarius relates to a particular issue in my life where I need to gently establish some boundaries for myself but also to let other boundaries relax a little and speak to someone else. This has been really hard for me to do and it is quite interesting to get added encouragement from a transit like this.

I am not sure how far to go with this and would appreciate some comment. The 2nd House is the house of self and self-worth/individuation. I’m assuming that even if aspected planets are not in the 2nd House, there is still some effect if the planet representing the sign Ruler aspects with other planets in the chart.? Let me know if I am wrong.

If this is the case on the 31 January Saturn Rx is quincunx my natal Venus and I think this has a very personal meaning for my current relationship and my values around this. I have a chance to articulate what I feel about the relationship and to open lines of communication that could be quite important for its well-being. Saturn must become retrograde very soon. From what I’ve read Saturn Rx transits last about four months so this could have an extended effect. Is this the observation informing your comments, Minderwiz?

One last comment, on 31 January there is a minor aspect of Uranus with Neptune. I can actively make this quite positive for myself in terms of spiritual understanding.

To think about another Aquarian connection, Aquarius the reformer is giving me an opportunity to reclaim some of the territory set in my natal chart which is interesting.

Moongold

 

[isthmus nekoi]

to Moongold

had a peek at your upcoming transits on astro.com since you expressed some troubles w/your software:

What I saw was yes, a sextile from transiting Saturn to natal Saturn (also conj natal Uranus), activating 8th/Leo (natal) and 6th/Gemini. Around the same time, you will also have Jupiter almost (?) conjunct natal Pluto so it looks like you can get much done if you can really work that Saturn transit.

Regarding 2nd house issues, I'm not sure I would assign the individuation process to the 2nd house alone. Of course, I'm coming from a Jungian perspective, so if you have a different conception of individuation, it could very well be a 2nd house thing. From what I gather, the process of ind means a) growing into your own humanity b) paradoxically, letting go of your humanity by forging a conscious connection w/the powers that be. In other words, it's about becoming yourself *and* realizing your own role in the greater play of existence. I think all the houses have a hand in this process, whether it's the self assertion of 1st or the partnerships of 7th, or the exploration of 9th.... Of course, I've never read this, so I could very well be wrong.

 

[isthmus nekoi]

to tarotphelia

Wow, you are incredebly Aquarian!! The bulk of your planets rest in Aqu, although their conjunctions are very wide (8 degrees).

The predominance of Aquarian air I think would make you a very rational person, esp since you have both sun and moon and the personal planets (merc, venus) there. I'd imagine you have an unorthodox approach to life, with a great concentration on health/service since most of these Aqu planets are in the 6th house. Moon opposing natal Uranus adds to your unpredictability, or unusualness. Also, w/Leo ASC, I don't imagine you to be very quiet about your differences either, but not really in an antagonistic way.

Your sun and uranus are in mutual reception w/Uranus in Leo (ruled by Sun) and Sun in Aqu (ruled by Uranus). They don't aspect each other, so I don't know how much weight to give to this, only that self expression plays a role in your unique perspective to life, relationships and emotions.

Natal Uranus is in 12th. I've read this can be condusive to clairvoyance and suchlike, as well as the desire to hide any eccentricities on your part. You might want to come back when we start the Pisces thread to discuss the 12th house...

11th house is empty, w/a Gemini cusp. Again, b/c your Sun is in 7th, the house of equal partners/relationships, I'd say self expression is important, despite Uran in 12th. Communication of your ideas and thoughts on a group/social level as opposed to a personal level is something you can be more comfortable w/perhaps.

 

[isthmus nekoi]

serious mistake!

OK, I have a major correction to make in terms of transits, Saturn, Uranus and Pluto. I wrote in the Cappy thread that when I had a Saturn opposition natal Saturn I made big big changes in my life. This actually isn't true. I was going by the calculation that Saturn makes hard aspects to itself every 7 years, but in my case, it was a little late coming in when I was 16, not 14.
The major change was when transiting Pluto was conj natal Uranus (in Scorpio/10th) and transiting Uranus (12th) was squaring natal Pluto (8th) (and sextiling natal Uran) when I was around 14. Woo hoo - double whammy! I went through some really *profound* and relatively sudden changes (mostly psychological), and after transiting Uranus crossed my ASC in the same year, *everyone* noticed the difference. For a while, it seemed almost everyone, even ppl who didn't know me well, would comment on how changed I was b/c it happened so *fast*. Even w/Pluto making conjunctions today, and Uran still in my 1st house, the changes aren't nearly as obvious, and are much more gradual.

Saturn opposing Saturn (squaring sun) at 16 makes the whole transiting Saturn seem much less ominous for me. Grade 10 was one of my favourite yrs. I wouldn't say it was an easy year for me - I had to deal w/a lot of internal and external challenges - but I cleared a lot of ground in my internal world. I developed a really ameliorative perspective to life b/c everything was about 'progressing' How very naive! But I got to see a lot of things that I never imagined was possible. At the time, I hadn't read Jung and my knowledge of psychology, mythology etc was very basic so I had no idea what I was doing! It was a reality check from the other side. It was consciously existing for the 1st time, in this hidden universe that I would later learn was called the collective unconscious by Jung.

b/c of transiting Pluto's conjunctions along my string of planets (from 10th to 1st), I see it as the force that awakens me to the depths that it can reach, which of course tends to smash away lots of presumptions handed down by our society's dominant AND marginalized ideologies. Then Saturn comes along to teach me how to build a structure from Pluto's wake, how to concretize and make use of what I have seen, how to integrate these things into my own life b/c society sure as heck can't - again, pulling structure from chaos, weaving a narrative and perspective from one's own unique place in space and time.

 

[Tarotphelia]

Re: to tarotphelia

Wow, you are incredebly Aquarian!! The bulk of your planets rest in Aqu, although their conjunctions are very wide (8 degrees).

__I noticed things piled up in one spot - if you have planets distributed more evenly, does that make you a better balanced, well-rounded person?

The predominance of Aquarian air I think would make you a very rational person,

__My idea of rational & other's idea of rational are often very different things!!


Natal Uranus is in 12th. I've read this can be condusive to clairvoyance and suchlike, as well as the desire to hide any eccentricities on your part.

__Even though I may desire that, it doesn't really work well!! I have given up for the most part.

I think the rest is pretty accurate too - thanks!
Tarotphelia