The Lovers as feelings toward someone??

AzulParadiso

To each their own ;)
 

novenovembre

The Lovers as love (sexual or whatever) makes a heluva lot more sense than choice.

LRichard.....I AM SPEECHLESS....after ALL THIS.....YOU ARE COMING TO MY SIDE ???????
 

ana luisa

I don't want to enter this discussion again as I've said really EVERYTHING I had to say on this subject-probably too much !- but I will just say that one interpretation doeesn't rule out the other-it all depends on context and surrounding cards.....in my experience, it often comes up when there is attraction, a sexual relationship, or even being in love-which doesn't mean it will last forever, or be a happily ever after, but that doesn't mean that, in other context, the Lovers could mean something else....

Absolutely!! Besides, one can have anxiety and difficulty choosing BECAUSE both suitors seem equally attractive sexually. It does depend on the reading, the question, the context AND the other cads that accompany it.
 

novenovembre

Absolutely!! Besides, one can have anxiety and difficulty choosing BECAUSE both suitors seem equally attractive sexually. It does depend on the reading, the question, the context AND the other cads that accompany it.

Someone somewhere in this long discussion said at one point that each card will come up with the meaning that that particular reader attaches to it....as if whoever it is out there that "send us" the info, knows what the right language to use with us is....I think that was a very good point also. To me, the Lovers has never meant choice, and from my experience of reading for myself, and the feedback I got from others, it's always confirmed that...again, love often entails a choice of some kind, so in that sense it could make sense....but I do believe that you cannot totally detach that card completely from the basic idea of LOVERS...somewhere there there is attraction, love, sex....I honestly can't see how it can represent a triangle, when so clearly there are TWO LOVERS there....if there is a triangle-which again, often happens-there must be, in my opinion, other cards to support that....possible a three...? Three of cups, for example...? 3 of swords ?
But again everyone has his/her own way to read cards..... and the same cards talk to each of us in different ways....
 

AzulParadiso

Someone somewhere in this long discussion said at one point that each card will come up with the meaning that that particular reader attaches to it....as if whoever it is out there that "send us" the info, knows what the right language to use with us is....I think that was a very good point also. To me, the Lovers has never meant choice, and from my experience of reading for myself, and the feedback I got from others, it's always confirmed that...again, love often entails a choice of some kind, so in that sense it could make sense....but I do believe that you cannot totally detach that card completely from the basic idea of LOVERS...somewhere there there is attraction, love, sex....I honestly can't see how it can represent a triangle, when so clearly there are TWO LOVERS there....if there is a triangle-which again, often happens-there must be, in my opinion, other cards to support that....possible a three...? Three of cups, for example...? 3 of swords ?
But again everyone has his/her own way to read cards..... and the same cards talk to each of us in different ways....

Well, I actually tell the clients things that are accurately happening/happened or will happen in their lives without them telling me any details most of the times. I don't like giving my 'secrets' away because honestly I'm not getting anything out of it (perhaps a thank you at times, but mostly people copying/stealing my style, lol..which can get annoying because no credit is given to me). But what the heck...this one is actually the only card I look to where I either know there's someone else, or there is someone else which the querent later on finds out about. If it's in 'love/romance' readings..this is always the triangle - even without the client saying anything I always know accurate details about their lives because of the method I use. But like you said everyone has their style - in the end accuracy it what matters.
 

Rhinestones

In real life (from my very own personal experience reading for myself) and when reading for others, this card always pointed to some sort of "triangle" in love. Definitely not the "soul mate, love, meant to be together, happilyeveraftertheend" that many cookbook meanings portray. It always ended with the one I (or the querent) wanted choosing somebody else.


Then which card represents the archetype of true love? 2 people living happily ever after? 2 of cups and 10 of cups?
 

AzulParadiso

Then which card represents the archetype of true love? 2 people living happily ever after? 2 of cups and 10 of cups?

Definitely better than Lovers. Especially the 2 of Cups =)
 

novenovembre

Then which card represents the archetype of true love? 2 people living happily ever after? 2 of cups and 10 of cups?

Two of cups to me is attraction, falling in love. The Lovers is also falling in love, but it's more physical. Also, it's a major arcana....it's more than the 2 of cups.
 

novenovembre

I must have been out of my mind, but what's done is done. *sigh*

Well....either I'm very good at making my point, or you knew all along I was right....I wouldn't put it past you.....!