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Debra said:eta: oh crud, sorry, I just saw Rosanne's post about the Cathars. That's the kind of answer we need, eh?
And this relates to Canid's comments about the evil demiurge creator god of the OT - the gnostic concept of a creator god as evil demiurge being a tenet of the Cathars:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism